The MR2T tranny "short axel" solution, For those that want to know... Options

[Supersprynt]

Its not a very good picture of Jay's unfortunately. No, it cant be taken out, only cut.

Heres the current issue. With the axle all teh way in the tranny, and without the carrier bearing on, the axle fits perfectly. But the carrier bearing is is about 1/3''-1/4'' too far in (to the left if your looking underneath). That in itself perplexes me because its a 1995 LSD axle going into a 93+ transmission, so I'm confused as all hell.

[K-ESD]

i've read many time that the mr2 guys get their axles machined to relocate the bearing retaining clip. Maybe this applies to this aswell, what do you think?

[scothaniel]

I think my inner axels went in another inch after getting past the snap ring. I might be able to get under my car tonight and get some pics. 800 miles so far, and no problems with my setup.

Here is what the BGB says about installing the drive shaft:

Hint:
Before installing the drive shaft, set the snap ring openeing side facing downward.
Weter or not the drive shaft is making contact with the pinion shaft can be known by sound or feeling when driving it.


Thanks Toyota - not very helpful!

[Supersprynt]

Theres no snap ring on the passenger side axle.

What I'm thinking now, and hearing on the 2 boards is that the non-lsd axles should go with the TRD units. So maybe I had the right axle all along except I had a bad axle seal causing the oil to spew out every which direction.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 8, 2006 - 11:52 AM

[scothaniel]

Thats interesting - I have the lsd drivers side inner, non-lsd passenger side inner in the E153 w/ TRD diff installed. I know the drivers side MUST be lsd (tried non-lsd and it leaked) but I didn't think the passenger side mattered.

This post has been edited by scothaniel: May 8, 2006 - 3:58 PM

[Supersprynt]

Well what Im going to do is put the non-lsd axle in because I think that'll fit with the TRD unit as its aftermarket. I will replace the axle seal with a new one and if that STILL leaks (main reason for switching axles) then I will probably hang myself.

[burneeed]

yupp this converstion isnt as easy as everyone says...

[ZoomZoom]

is there any other progress of this thread?

[Supersprynt]

Thats interesting - I have the lsd drivers side inner, non-lsd passenger side inner in the E153 w/ TRD diff installed. I know the drivers side MUST be lsd (tried non-lsd and it leaked) but I didn't think the passenger side mattered.

I was under the impression with the TRD unit u could use non-lsd axles because its an aftermarket unit (installed at the dealer).

[burneeed]

I really dont see why your having all these problems with the axle setup? I screwed up the first time with the wrong snap ring in the carrier bearing. Do you want me to take some pictures of my axle setup? I meen is it not fitting ? My axles with the extention fit just perfect. Ive put around 300 miles on my new setup without them popping out.

[Supersprynt]

I'm not having problems with the extension - im having issues with finding the correct inner axle.

Only 93+ E153s were offered with LSD's, and I have a TRD LSD which is not factory installed its dealer installed therefore I thought I needed LSD axle when I really need a non-LSD axle.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 16, 2006 - 10:38 AM

[burneeed]

ohh you have the trd installed lsd. sorry wish I could help.

[ZoomZoom]

so, is this spacer too long for our setup?

[Supersprynt]

Looks like this spacer is a lil bit too long.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: May 20, 2006 - 1:45 PM

[Supersprynt]

Ok I can just about confirm, the full spacer is too long. About 1/4''-1/2''.

Is ANYBODY using a full spacer?

[scothaniel]

I am, full spacer - no problems.

[Supersprynt]

I have a TRD E153 with non-lsd axles - I'm not sure if the axles make a difference because the length of the carrier bearing to hub can only be so long. I can fit LSD axles in with a full spacer but the carrier wont bolt up.

[speedy]

im using a 3rd gen mr2 LSD tranny with LSD inners and st185 outters with a spacer in between. i have the spacers on both sides, driver and passenger. i was having length issues too, about 1/4" - 1/2". i had them machined down. as far as the inner i had the same questions, but the easiest way to find is to get a flash-light and a tape-messure and messure the splin length on the inside. match the spline lengths on the axle to tranny.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=1040...D+axles+NON-LSD
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=7921...D+axles+NON-LSD
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddim...zMXk1NDE%3D.jpg ... pic of passenger side
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddim...zMXk1NDE%3D.jpg ... pic of passenger side
(can't find the pictures of the drivers side)

i know u probably have seen these... or not, but on the second set of links they are showing machined non-lsd axles next to lsd axles. all im concerned with is the difference in the spline lengths. lsd axles have longer splines than non-lsd for drive and passenger sides. i dont know if this helps but messuring is the only way i can think to answer the question...
if i find the right pics ill post them. i've seen some with all four axles lined up and it shows the length differences between lsd to non-lsd axles.

This post has been edited by speedy: May 20, 2006 - 3:45 PM

[Rjb23]

im using a 3rd gen mr2 LSD tranny with LSD inners and st185 outters with a spacer in between. i have the spacers on both sides, driver and passenger. i was having length issues too, about 1/4" - 1/2". i had them machined down. as far as the inner i had the same questions, but the easiest way to find is to get a flash-light and a tape-messure and messure the splin length on the inside. match the spline lengths on the axle to tranny.

http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=1040...D+axles+NON-LSD
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?t=7921...D+axles+NON-LSD
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddim...zMXk1NDE%3D.jpg ... pic of passenger side
http://www.we-todd-did-racing.com/wetoddim...zMXk1NDE%3D.jpg ... pic of passenger side
(can't find the pictures of the drivers side)

i know u probably have seen these... or not, but on the second set of links they are showing machined non-lsd axles next to lsd axles. all im concerned with is the difference in the spline lengths. lsd axles have longer splines than non-lsd for drive and passenger sides. i dont know if this helps but messuring is the only way i can think to answer the question...
if i find the right pics ill post them. i've seen some with all four axles lined up and it shows the length differences between lsd to non-lsd axles.

I had the same problem when I tried this and I was thinking of just getting the spacer cut in half and it would be about the pervect size. How much did it cost you guys to get it machined down.

[burneeed]

I dont understand why nobody takes a power saw to the part that connects on the inner? Thats exaclty what I did and it makes about 1/4" Extra and it fits fine. Rather than taking the extra part from the outer axle.