springs, any thoughts on the TRD OR EIBACHS? Options

[boosted_K2]

my next mod is going to be some springs, i want between 1 and 1 1/2 drop naturally the eibachs and TRDs came to mind, any one have any experience or comments on either? im getting them installed by a guy i know for free so the install isnt a big deal...
any comments on which struts or shocks i should get with this setup?

[Coomer]

I hear that the TRD springs are very similar to the Eibachs, but they generally cost more. I'd go for the Eibachs if I were you. My friend has these springs on his 2000 Eclipse and it's a nice smooth ride with no bounciness at all. If you can afford them, Koni Yellows are going to be your best bet as far as shocks go. They'll run you from $500-600 plus around $300 for installation however.

[ghostdog]

QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Nov 19 2002, 04:49 PM)

my next mod is going to be some springs, i want between 1 and 1 1/2 drop naturally the eibachs and TRDs came to mind, any one have any experience or comments on either? im getting them installed by a guy i know for free so the install isnt a big deal... any comments on which struts or shocks i should get with this setup?

go with coilovers bro. its priceless to be able to drop your ride to the ground during the summer, and raise it up for the winter. trust me on this one, coilovers are worth every god damn penny, especially the ground controls.

[JWalk1818]

300 or installation seems HIGH to me i would think around 150.

[ghostdog]

QUOTE (JWalk1818 @ Nov 20 2002, 12:18 PM)

300 or installation seems HIGH to me i would think around 150.

that figure is for all four. the rear shocks need to be cut to accept the Koni catridge and then welded back shut. most of the estimates I have seen have been in the 200-300 range, unless you take out the shocks yourself and just take the rear shocks in for cutting and welding. probably be only 100-150 then.

[boosted_K2]

QUOTE (Coomer @ Nov 20 2002, 01:18 AM)

I hear that the TRD springs are very similar to the Eibachs, but they generally cost more. I'd go for the Eibachs if I were you. My friend has these springs on his 2000 Eclipse and it's a nice smooth ride with no bounciness at all. If you can afford them, Koni Yellows are going to be your best bet as far as shocks go. They'll run you from $500-600 plus around $300 for installation however.

free install . a guy i know has a civic SI and said he would help with the install. hes got the eibach sportlines, they lowered it 1 1/2", hes riding on stock struts and shocks. his car looks/sounds/rides amazing! so that isnt an issue

[boosted_K2]

QUOTE (gh0st_d0g @ Nov 20 2002, 09:37 AM)

QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Nov 19 2002, 04:49 PM) my next mod is going to be some springs, i want between 1 and 1 1/2 drop naturally the eibachs and TRDs came to mind, any one have any experience or comments on either? im getting them installed by a guy i know for free so the install isnt a big deal... any comments on which struts or shocks i should get with this setup? go with coilovers bro. its priceless to be able to drop your ride to the ground during the summer, and raise it up for the winter. trust me on this one, coilovers are worth every god damn penny, especially the ground controls.

...adjustable isnt really a problem anymore, stock body in the winter, bodykit in the summer... id rather just keep replacing that on and off rather than the ride height.

[thesilvercelica]

I agree with ghost dog, go with the coilovers! You can really slam your ride like 4 inches, springs only give you like 1.75 inches

[boosted_K2]

i wish i had money right now!! some dropzone COs are on EBAY for 143 bucks!!!!!!!

[thesilvercelica]

I just got my coilovers from EBay, you can find every thing on there if you look hard enough. You can get body kits on there real cheap!

[ghostdog]

QUOTE (thesilvercelica @ Nov 22 2002, 06:52 AM)

I just got my coilovers from EBay, you can find every thing on there if you look hard enough. You can get body kits on there real cheap!

just remember, you get what you pay for !!

not to say there aren't discounts if you look for them, but be very wary of prices that seem too low to be true. for example bodykits, spend 400 bucks on one from ebay, pay an extra 400 in fitament

[boosted_K2]

yea, no way in hell id buy the COs that are like 60-90 bucks on there, but the DZs are pretty quality...

[NEVERSTOP]

I agree with the coilovers.. Just waiting or Tein to make a set for a 6th gen... They make ones for my rear end but not the gt front... cab control ride height...ummmm.

I have the TRD lowering springs and I am not really happy with them. they are way better than stock but all the cars I have been in that have eibach springs ride REALLY nice. If your just gonna go with spring do eibach.. cheaper and better

[boosted_K2]

thanks for the info.... so it leaves me with the eibach pro series and the sportlines.... any opinions?

and im really not intending on dumping 2K into my suspension atleast untill after the swap... so a FULL coilover setup (like the JIC or TEIN) isnt really what im looking for yet...

[NEVERSTOP]

k2... why not save your cash and put it toward the swap??? your stock springs are better than most aftermarket ones... there just higher... If you want a temp lower most automotive parts stores will sell these things that clamp onto you springs... you can lower your car a good inch or two with acouple sets.... I would never do this myself but have done it on a civic before and it worked... just wouldn't leave it on for more than a year without redoing them. just a suggestion to save some cash now and get something better later. otherwise get the pros

[BigEdge169]

I had some Eibach Sportlines installed on mine about a year and a half ago and didn't replace the shocks/struts when I had them installed. The ride quality is pretty good considering I've got 17" Enkies and 215/40/ZR17 tires which make you feel a lot of the action from the road. I highly recomend these springs, the also handle great, even without other mods.
I think springs are better than coil overs because everytime you change the height of your car, it changes the camber of your tires which makes them wear unevenly if you don't get it altered everytime also. That's just my opinion though.

Intrax.....1.75 (1 3/4) like 170 or so installed and it isnt low enough so i cut mine hella 3 coils off the front and 3 1/2 off the rear...sits where i like it now....but my opiion go with aircans or hydraulics adjustable is thee best way to go.......flick of a switch ur up or down......Brislands out of Canada has an aircan kit for $239 per can or i can get hydros through Pro Hopper for $1500.00. im going with hydros on my Celi......

[Coomer]

QUOTE (1exquizitcelica @ Dec 1 2002, 07:04 AM)

Intrax.....1.75 (1 3/4) like 170 or so installed and it isnt low enough so i cut mine hella 3 coils off the front and 3 1/2 off the rear...sits where i like it now....but my opiion go with aircans or hydraulics adjustable is thee best way to go.......flick of a switch ur up or down......Brislands out of Canada has an aircan kit for $239 per can or i can get hydros through Pro Hopper for $1500.00. im going with hydros on my Celi......

I heard that your handling will drop with hydros. Is this true?

well uhh if the strokes are locked up u will have no suspension at all but i have an accumulator kit to make it ride like a caddy.......but the handling should be the same no change but i will ask them thanks coomer for the heads up

[bonzaisushi]

what are the diff between the eichbach sportlines and the pro ones?

[BigEdge169]

Sportline drops about 1.5 inches and Proline drops it about an inch.
I have the sportline and really like them. I've never had any kind of problems with them.

[0Re0]

Actually, TRD springs are made from Eibach but the Eibach sports brand is little lower than TRD. I have TRD springs too and what NEVERSTOP says about not being satisfied with it....I agree. Its not as low as we expected but the handling is good. Changing the struts and shocks are even better.

Intrax is the lowest i think at 1 3/4 without going coilovers.......so cut them thats what i did still rides great and is holding up

[0Re0]

Yupz.....Intrax are the lowest springs you can find on the market for our 6gens. Unless...If you want high quality suspensions set ups.... you can go to http://www.Japanparts.com or http://www.toysport.com and ask for Teins, Juns, or HKS coilovers that would fit on a GT4. I dunno if it would fit but just try and ask. That would be my best bet so far.

[CDNSLEEKA]

I put the Eibach Sportlines on back in the spring,and have been very happy with the ride.Although i do wish my car sat a little bit lower.

[Mynzeyes]

QUOTE (1exquizitcelica @ Dec 1 2002, 05:06 PM)

well uhh if the strokes are locked up u will have no suspension at all but i have an accumulator kit to make it ride like a caddy.......but the handling should be the same no change but i will ask them thanks coomer for the heads up

caddies ride like boats...i'd never toss one of those around in the twisties...'less it was that catera...even still...Ground Control coilovers are the way to go IMO.
-John-

[celica3sgte]

I advise everyone to stay away from the dropzone coilovers. Let's just say they'll will bounce so much, your struts can explode. Mine did. I think however if you went with aftermarket shock with bound/rebound adjustment, any coilovers will work nice. I'm actually thinking bout going with the jic-magic. Yeah they're $1300, but that's the best there is.

[rlan214]

QUOTE (spongebob @ Dec 21 2002, 05:53 PM)

I advise everyone to stay away from the dropzone coilovers. Let's just say they'll will bounce so much, your struts can explode. Mine did. I think however if you went with aftermarket shock with bound/rebound adjustment, any coilovers will work nice. I'm actually thinking bout going with the jic-magic. Yeah they're $1300, but that's the best there is.

i thought the cheapest one was 1500$ from jic

[Consynx]

Actually, i found my drop to be perfect
the 1.5" from the Eibach sportline isn't too low, nor is it high
it got rid of that hideous wheel gap, and made driving the celi even more fun
any lower and i wouldn't have my front end anymore, because these Pennsylvania roads suck.

[rlan214]

QUOTE (spongebob @ Dec 21 2002, 05:53 PM)

I advise everyone to stay away from the dropzone coilovers. Let's just say they'll will bounce so much, your struts can explode. Mine did. I think however if you went with aftermarket shock with bound/rebound adjustment, any coilovers will work nice. I'm actually thinking bout going with the jic-magic. Yeah they're $1300, but that's the best there is.

did u use ure dropzone with stock shock ?
how much did u lower ure car that the stut exploded ?

[JonboyGB]

I had Eiback Sportlines installed just before xmas, keeping the original shocks. Already done 400 odd miles. The ride quality is a hell of lot better than I was expecting and going arond the twisty stuff is bloody amazing! My car feels like its on rails

[FallenHero]

Does anybody have pictures of a stock celica+ TRD springs? Also, How hard is it to change ride hight on CO's?

[0Re0]

QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 11 2003, 09:00 PM)

Does anybody have pictures of a stock celica+ TRD springs? Also, How hard is it to change ride hight on CO's?

Looks stock kinda...If your going for anything lower...I suggest you get Intrax!

[west_minist]

Please try out JIC suspension. There are very good.

Please use the adjustables for future reference in driving.

[Coomer]

I just put on the Eibach Sportlines along with some KYB GR-2 struts last night, and I love the way that my car handles now. I couldn't really test out the handling much because it was snowing and I didn't wanna crash, but I could definitely feel a major difference in handling(almost no body roll), and a difference in ride quality. My ride quality is actually better than stock I think(I didn't have a stock setup before so it's hard to tell though. ) I'm happy with the look of the drop as well. My setup was definitely worth the $420 or so that I spent, and it's not even very hard to install.

[FallenHero]

yo coomer, post some pics. Can stock shocks handle a drop from coilovers?

[Coomer]

QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 12 2003, 08:14 PM)

yo coomer, post some pics. Can stock shocks handle a drop from coilovers?

Here's a couple pics:



Those pics don't really show the drop very well though, and the lighting is really really bad. The drop looks so much better in person. I'll post much better pics when I get my rims on there. My rims should be coming in early this week, and I can hardly wait!

Also, I think that stock shocks can handle a drop from coilovers if the coilovers are good and the struts aren't too old. Mynzeyes has been running his Ground Controls on stock struts for a while without problems.

[0Re0]

QUOTE (Coomer @ Jan 12 2003, 11:49 PM)

QUOTE (FallenHero @ Jan 12 2003, 08:14 PM) yo coomer, post some pics.  Can stock shocks handle a drop from coilovers? Here's a couple pics: Those pics don't really show the drop very well though, and the lighting is really really bad. The drop looks so much better in person. I'll post much better pics when I get my rims on there. My rims should be coming in early this week, and I can hardly wait! Also, I think that stock shocks can handle a drop from coilovers if the coilovers are good and the struts aren't too old. Mynzeyes has been running his Ground Controls on stock struts for a while without problems.

Thats how low mines are right now

[boosted_K2]

welp i have my TRDs now gunna put em on the week after/before spring break, during spring break my car will be in the shop getting the kit on while me and my gf are chillen out in sandiego

[3TST]

Nice one coomer!
This is the way I was planning.
I hopefully will have a set of KYB GR-2's shocks soon.
However, I'm contemplating on going with Intrax Lowering Springs just to be that little bit lower.
Having said that, I can get a damn good deal on a set of Eibach Sportlines - $185 shipped to France.
Oh the dilema!!

[FallenHero]

I think I might get those TRD springs. I want to drop it by a little and have a better ride. Plus, then I wouldn't feel like a moron if I put a trd sticker on my car or something.