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 Apr 6, 2004 - 11:51 AM
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yup like what the topic sez
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Apr 6, 2004 - 12:10 PM
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autostart in Montana??
 i know coomer did it in his standard st. so you might wanna ask him.
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Apr 6, 2004 - 12:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '02 From Sleep in Warren chill in clinton twp, works/school in detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
crap cant change title oh well
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Apr 6, 2004 - 1:49 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If its anything like my talon, theres a fuse bypass you can do. It works already and thats how you can push start a manual. You just have to find the "clutch has to in" sensor's fuse and disable it. That of course may be different on the Celi. Ask the local auto store (not carquest or adv. auto but like speciality stores) that carry car alarms - they should know.
As for starting it in Montana, dunno - I live in Wisconsin. |
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Apr 6, 2004 - 1:53 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea there is a bypass....one thing is ur car has to be in neutral to start it. u can get it at best buy the model number is 555u. all it pretty much does is send a pulse telling the car that the clutch is down and it will start...simple
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Apr 6, 2004 - 4:04 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
Dude, dont get it. Everybody I knwo that has done this on a manual has started their car into a tree or something.
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Apr 7, 2004 - 12:20 AM
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From what I understand it is illegal in most states and besides it's just stupid and dangerous.
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Apr 7, 2004 - 12:37 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 19, '03 From KY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Okay, just speaking from experience, you need to be really careful if you do install an automatic starter into a manual transmission. I did it, and it worked very well until I started it right through my fience's garage door.
 Now I gotta buy a garage door and have my front end painted. Looking on the bright side though, I took the opportunity to install an Invader body kit. I thought, "hell, I gotta have bodywork done anyway, why not?"
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Apr 7, 2004 - 8:27 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Not if you always leave your car in neutral. You just have to think about what you're doing. I've had the remote start on mine for about 4 months and I've started it dozens of times with no trouble. I don't let other people drive my car (or I check it if they do) and I've never gotten into the habit of putting my car in gear when its parked. Thats what the parking brake is for. As far as the clutch thing. I temporarily just put a piece of wire between the terminals of the switch harness. Eventually I'm going to make a bypass switch. The cruise control needs to think the clutch switch is there to work properly. Its just going to be bypassed unless i'm rolling down the highway and want cruise.....flip the bypass switch, hit the cruise button and there you go. Like somebody else mentioned you could totally use one of the additional pulse outputs on the alarm to do it, but thats too much trouble for me. I like not having the clutch switch at times. But then again, I'm used to being around race cars that are wired that way. Its really handy to not have to be sitting in the car to start it. |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 11:58 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 12, '04 From Norway Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Would it be possible to make a switch that only allows it to be started in neutral ? ... I guess you would have to get a little smart with the placement, but one should think that with a few microswitches this should be possible ?
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Apr 7, 2004 - 1:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Real easy guys... get the 555u like playa said and leave it in neutral. I tell everyone to leave it in neutral. Never ever ever get into the habit of putting it into gear before you leave. There is a parking brake for manuals and thats why they call it the parking brake. The only reason I stress this is due to a turbo timer. People with those have to leave it in neutral, otherwise, you'll just have to wait the 1 minute while your car sits. You dont leave an auto in Drive when you leave do ya?
Sorry, i get a little flustered at the subject - i hate it when i hop into a MT and kill it as soon as it starts cause i thought it was in N |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 4:34 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Uhh, autostart like, push button on remote control car engine starts?
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Apr 7, 2004 - 5:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Exactly. Its the poon. Especially if you live somewhere that it gets cold.
Amen Brotha. My compustar actually has a turbo timer built into it. Its pretty slick because i can cancel it at any time, but it automatically stays running until I hit the brake. No chance of leaving it in gear. |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 7:40 PM
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John, my car's cruise control(when I had it) worked fine with my clutch switch bypassed. Which switch did you tap into?
Also, I have a safety switch on my car, so that every time I plan on remote starting the car, I have to push this switch, which activates a loop on a SPDT relay and allows the car to remote start. Pushing the button reminds me to make sure the car is in neutral.  And the only reason my car started into the cement wall of my garage was because when I put an interior panel back on, I accidentally put a screw through a wire for the safety switch, which grounded it out, in turn disabling the safety switch. It was pretty bad luck. -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Apr 7, 2004 - 8:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sounds like it. The cruise thing has me stumped. It hasn't worked since I put the alarm in (I think I had a plug off the cruise ecu in the passenger side doing some wiring and never put it back...haven't had time to check it. But when it did work it would cancel the cruise whenever you pushed the clutch all the way in. Maybe it only cancels on a pulse trigger and not a constant trigger. I dunno. Right now I have it bypassed at the clutch switch on the pedal. I disconnected the switch and shorted across the plug (what the switch does when its triggered). Did you figure out a better way? I hope so. I don't really like how I did it. |
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Apr 7, 2004 - 10:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I assume an autostart in an automatic works fine?
Not that I'm proud of having an auto or anything
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Apr 7, 2004 - 11:16 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Milton, Delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yes, i have autostart in my celi, and it only took about 35 minutes to intstall myself...
-Ryan -------------------- AIM : FAQdaWorld
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Apr 8, 2004 - 12:07 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 4, '04 From VA, USA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
35 min???A damn u must be super-installer or sum ish. ive been installing RS alarms for about a year and usually tka me around 3 HRs |
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Apr 8, 2004 - 12:51 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Ryan, what did you buy to auto start it?
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Apr 8, 2004 - 10:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '02 From Sleep in Warren chill in clinton twp, works/school in detroit Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
so other peeps actually leave their car in gear hmmmm i nvr did that b4 oh well i guess ish betta to just leave it in neutral
soo pretty much i need a bypass huh well im not the one that gonna install it but i just want to make sure that the autostart will work cuz it can really get that cold in MI -------------------- |
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Apr 9, 2004 - 12:16 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
ok, i would liek to warn you, like some one said, becarfull, you might just driv it right into, um say a tree a poll, or my freak searay.... argg.. This is my bros civic, he left it in reverse an hit the remote start by accedent, an it drove about 50 feet, slammed into my boat then pushed it about 15 feet, until the front wheel of the boat slammed into a stump.... just look here are a few pics......
  
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Apr 9, 2004 - 7:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Most shops won't install remote starts on manuals. |
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Apr 9, 2004 - 8:20 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From NYC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
clifford alarms makes an autostart alarm package for sticks.
got it done for my girls s2k. cost about 500 |
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Apr 9, 2004 - 8:31 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 29, '02 From Dallas, Tx Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Who installed it? Lots of companies make them, but most shops won't install them (just clarifying what I was saying).
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Apr 9, 2004 - 9:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 12, '04 From Norway Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
A remote starter that only works in neutral is the solution
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Apr 9, 2004 - 1:29 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Lots of shops will install the remote start systems made for manual cars.
Basically, you leave the car running when you want it to remote start. You get out of the car, and arm it once the doors are closed. Once the car is armed, the car turns off, ensuring that it's left in neutral. If a door is opened or the system goes off, the car will not remote start(because there's a chance that someone put the car into gear.) Otherwise, it'll start, because the car is in neutral for sure.  If you have an alarm with remote start, you could do this setup yourself with a few SPDT relays and some wiring.
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Apr 9, 2004 - 1:46 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 21, '03 From Endicott NY Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
The terminals of what switch harness? The one for your remote starter? I want to hook mine up but I'm not sure on how to install it on a manual. |
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Apr 9, 2004 - 1:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Milton, Delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Something i saw in walmart, and its a remote start only, thats why it only took like 35 minutes or so. Hell yea if it were an alarm it would have taken me longer, plus i allready had the dash opened open cuz i was doing some other things so it was more just a matter of finding the right wires -Ryan -------------------- AIM : FAQdaWorld
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