8th gen Celica, possible release date? Options

[Outsider]

I found this post on a UK forum. Food for thought.

[moltar]

I was never a fan of the 7th gen aesthetically, but hopefully the 8th gen will fix that.

[3FingersCelica]

I thought Toyota was going to stop making Celica's

[Akimbo]

Why would you believe that? They wouldn't do that, it would be a stupid move.

[neoklis]

They will not stop making Celicas. They will just not import them in the states maybe. They will try to replace the Celi with the Scion Tc because it will be a lot cheaper.

I have been waiting for this kind of info for the last couple of years. It made no sense to me for Toyota to be involved in F1 and discontinue its sports products. I know there are some Lexus cas that are pure power but if they were planning to stuck on them, they could have easily name their F1 team under Lexus and not Toyota.

The Supra is going to be amazing. The Celica looks promising aswell but its going to need a lot more to reach the 6 gen GT4. The next few months are going to be interesting

[Kwanza26]

I think that post is mostly speculation. Doesn't sound like anything Toyota would ever attempt. Specifically, the Celica is currently rumored (in more reliable sources than a forum post) to be mounting a new head design being built by Yahama integrating Variable Valve Timing with Lift and Intelligence (VVTL-i) onto the 2.4 liter 2AZ block, whose engines are currently found in base model Camrys, Solaras, and the Scion tC. As for anything relating to a Supercharger, again more speculation, but I wouldn't be surprised if it came as a TRD S/C option (like on many USDM cars here)... but most likely not as a production engine built for boost. However, if Toyota decides to mount a design such as VVTL-i on that rod stroke ratio (2AZ's big stroke), they might run into the same problem Honda ran into with the H22As... expense. They'll probably have to overbuild the bottom end with much stronger rods to withstand the increased revving related to VVTL-i and in turn, the price of the cars with that engine increases. This was a direct link to that death of the Prelude.

I'll also agree with neoklis that there is a slight possiblity Celicas might not reach our shores (not sure for Canada... but the US perhaps) because of the competition issue between the Celica and the tC. As far as I know currently, the tC is a USDM only vehicle... but not sure exactly. It would be awesome if an 8th gen comes, perhaps with the same relationship to the tC as what the RSX and the Civic SI currently share... but that's only hope... and a 2005 July date would even be more awesome.

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jun 11, 2004 - 9:35 PM

[o8poa8o]

If they stop making celi's then they'll start with a new car, although the tc is like a celica, its would possible replace it but toyota itself would prolly roll out a new car with a larger v6 or so, if not make the solara more sportier

[sinner96ST]

It's all speculation at this point.. but I believe the TC might be the replacement for the Toyota Celica.. that's the theory, anyway...

but i could be wrong...

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Jun 11, 2004 - 10:58 PM

[KAMiX]

Some more food for thought.. and I could be wrong, but I believe we have now seen the longest ever run of a model celica with the 7th gen... (closely followed by the 6th gen) and that is not helping all of your theories.

Surely Toyota would have at least run a concept car in a motorshow by now if they were working on a new car...

Edit - And I have been to 2 big Aussie shows with all sorts of Toyota concepts, and followed the Japanese ones to some extent, and there wasn't anything that remotely resembled a celica.

This post has been edited by KAMiX: Jun 13, 2004 - 1:53 AM

[vangSTa_celica]

Well..my two cents...is that...from what I've read...Toyota is supposedly gonna quit makin' the Celica for the States...I read that this could be a possibility due to the fact that there is no competition for the Celica...No Prelude = No Celica...but..now that the RSX and and other competitors are in town...I personally think that mite change..

[FallenHero]

yea, motor trend said no more celica. the Scion TC is toyotas replacement for it.

[shid]

Longest running celica? How do you figure? 6th gens= 94-99 5 years. 7th gens= 00-04 4 years. and I believe the previous generations beat both.

[Kwanza26]

[Pali_playa]

ok this is wht i heard

celica not imported to us

supras not gonna be out......instead their bringing out the Volta...500HP hybrid supercar. its supposed to have a electric motor for each axle..plus a normal engine...to crush all competition

This post has been edited by Pali_playa: Jun 13, 2004 - 4:48 PM

[sinner96ST]

[sinner96ST]

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Jun 13, 2004 - 5:27 PM

[o8poa8o]

if the volta comes out, it'd most likely go down in hp and torque, and make it more sophiticated (idk if thats spelled right). But it'd still be fast as hell!

[shid]

Actually, I think it looks stupid.

[sinner96ST]

[KAMiX]

[FallenHero]

what do you think about the volta? $80k, maybe more?

[sinner96ST]

[Kwanza26]

[snadman]

Actually...the new "Supra" isn't going to be called a supra. The actual name has been keyed the Toyota 5000GT in a recent Automobile magazine. Yes it will be aimed at the supercar league and yes they will come out with something to this effect...won't be called the Supra though.

And I have high doubts to the whole SC 8gen...besides that's in UK. Overseas gets more performance oriented vehicles while the US doesn't. It has already been said and released by me and XE_Nathaniel that the Celica will end as the Scion name is going to likely take over because it is aimed at the younger crowd. This is the way me and Nate found out Toyota is going about this, well more what I figure is happening from me and Nate's research (includes talking to Toyota exec's, as well as much reading). Scion will be aimed at younger kids as well as midlife crisis people looking to hip their lives up (kinda like what the PT Cruiser did), Toyota will be used as is....to market famous family cars such as the Camry and Corolla while holding places for some useful SUVs, Lexus will keep its aim as going for higher class people who don't want a Bimmer or whatnot.

I guess that's more my speculation of all the research. BUT we do know that the Celica will likely be done after this 7th Generation and will most likely be replaced by the car stated earlier: Scion Tc. Also, it's been said that 2007 is the aimed release year for Toyota's new supercart...actually it's been said many times in many different sources so I'm beginning to believe that's when.

[snadman]

[KAMiX]

... If I could go and buy a 7th gen from my Toyota dealer in 1999, and the car had "produced in 1999" stamped on it, I would say it's a 99 model. But hey I'm not from the US, and I wasn't talking about US models.

Dude I don't want to argue with you, I don't have the time & you are obviously a perfectionist and won't accept me saying something unless it is 100%. With my previous posts I said "I believe" and "I think", I wasn't stating that info as fact. I also was trying to point out that it will be at least another couple of years till the next celi (which you promptly ignored). Thanks for pointing out the 1st gen run, I will now restate the point I have been trying to make:

The 7th gen will have a longer run than recent models.

Happy?

This post has been edited by KAMiX: Jun 14, 2004 - 12:52 AM

[neoklis]

now now boys, behave your selves or you will be sent to bed with no dinner. Come on guys, try to be constructive when posting.

For example. i was seeing a car show on TV a couple of days ago and they were presenting the new Lotus Elise. Great little car and very fun to drive. But the most interesting part was that the presenter said that the engine on that car was a 1.8 L Toyota engine (prolly Celica) with about 180bhp. Thats not much but when combined with a rwd 2 seater with weight under 900 kgs was quite amazing. Post on this if you like.