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 Jun 21, 2004 - 10:21 PM
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well i just came back from doing a custom cold air intake with the help of my friend...**** was a bitch to do hehe unscrew all the bolts in the air filter box (the one that sits all the way at the bottom of ur fender) and unswrewing my splash guard as well as making my fuse box fit on top lots of cuttin heheh well here are the pics wut ya think
 oo yea did i mention i hear a loud ass growl now its soo vicosu goes a lil faster toohttp://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2390.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2391.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2392.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2393.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2394.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2396.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2399.jpg |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What kind of filter is that, how much space was there in the fender & what diameter piping did you use? Interesting setup.. Looks like the stock airbox hole on the ST's is further towards the front of the car than on a GT?
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Jun 21, 2004 - 10:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
its a heat divinezone BMW lol filter with a heat shield umm and i had to make the hole a bit bigger umm im im not quite sure prob like 4.5 inches in diameter yea there is much space if u take out that air box in the bottom |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 10:50 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Err, how much air actually gets there?
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Jun 21, 2004 - 10:58 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
where'd your fuse box go?!
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Jun 21, 2004 - 11:19 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
ohh its still there its on top but the pic dont show up ill post up a pic tomromw and the fuse box i had to cut it a lil bit to fit but i still bolted it on...as for the amount of air its suffient...it comes therough the font end but the space is pretty big teh sound is deeper and i can feel lil bit more power |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 11:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Good q. It's not going to be as much as say a ram-style CAI (outside air straight onto the filter), but it will definately be cold air, and probably well protected from water too I would think. |
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Jun 21, 2004 - 11:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
wuts a ram style CAI can u post a pic??? yea man well protected i dont have a bypass valve i dont need it the splash guard helps a lot man plus i dont think im abe diving thorugh rivers heheh |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:17 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I just mean't a CAI where the filter, or if the filter is in an airbox the intake pipe, has direct contact with outside air. So some ppl will put it below the battery where you get air from coming thru the radiator and from the undertray, or where you have an intake pipe in your front fender so the air hitting the filter is travelling at speed.
Don't think it's actually called a ram CAI or anything. |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:19 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea but isnt teh ones that are under the batter sit on top of the tranny...kidna hot on taht?? umm isnt mine in teh fender??,,, cause the air hitting the filter is coming through the front bumper |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:25 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah I have had a look when my header/radiator was off, and having your filter below the batt will definately be cooler than a short ram intake, especially when you are moving, but as I said urs will be cooler. I dunno about the airflow in there you would know more than me about it.. I thought inside the side fender where you have it is pretty much sealed up with the plastic guards?
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:28 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
well yea from the bottom but from the front umm im a take a pic tomormw but air comes from the bumper throuhn the holes caue thast where the old airbox got its air i think |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:45 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
im kinda suprised that more people seem intrested in that way now.. I did mine the same way like atleast a year ago .. Just take pipes right down the old route.. .. this has been posted tons of times.. but no body like it when i first did it.. but hwat ever .. but the only problem is, if its not monted down real good.. it ratlles an makes tons of nosie when you hit a bump .. that part sucks..
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:59 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea man i know i got the idea from u man LOL but i took that into consideration thast y the hole is just large enough so that the pipe fits snuggly in it plus i stripped the foam off of the air box and just tucked it under the pipe now its like very firm and i try to move it but it doenst |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 1:00 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
hey i wanna see ur set up can u post a pic? |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 7:14 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 16, '03 From Bay area Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i always worry the tire would kick up dust and into your filter with the filter being right there.
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Jun 22, 2004 - 8:36 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nah caue as long as u have the splash guard ur fine..i took that pic with the splash guard unscred to show wehre the filter was |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:44 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 10, '04 From Durham, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I added my CAI two weeks back... didn't think of taking the digital camera until after we were all done. I'm using a AEM cone filter right now, but got a TrueFlow filter to put in its place. When I swap it out, I'll take pics of mine too.
I went the piping route in the How-to-guide and I don't have any rattle. You can definitely, hear and the difference when the car starts up. We were also surprised at the amount of baffles there were in the stock air intake. Taking all the stock parts out leaves you weith a bunch more room for future upgrades under the hood. The difference in throttle response is noticeable too. I would highy recommend the CAI for anyone that's got the time and desire. |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:48 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Doesn't some guy on the board make these and sell em? Dr.Evil or some jazz like that?
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92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 9:54 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jun 10, '03 From FL Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
lmao evilspeed |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:29 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
lol, dr. evil .. yeah but you can make them for half the price.. not hard at all.. I think today, im going to somehow make a mount for mine, until i eather swpa my engine, or sell it. just cause the few tims that lil ratlle pisses me off.. that an the screwed our road to no other, so it hurts...
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Jun 22, 2004 - 12:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
is dr evil same as dr cai cause if it is then doenst that one go under the battery and not in the fender? |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 3:29 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I checked this out last night with a friend that owns a '94 (mines a '99) - you will get a lot more airflow out of the early models "big smile" than the IMO prettier later model airdam. On the later model you will only get it through the small hole next to the fog light. If you don't have the fogs the airflow should be about the same.
You will also suck up water in bad conditions this way.  If you don't believe this get it on a lift it will be obvious at this point.
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Jun 22, 2004 - 3:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yo about the water are u referring to my CAI or the later models??? |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 5:34 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
I'm not refering to your CAI in particular - just ones that follow the stock setup to the front fender. That fender's air is common to the front airdam on the "big smile" and to the foglight hole on the later models. As I said in bad conditions water will get in through the smile (or to a lesser extent through the foglight hole in later models) and will be sucked up into your engine. Obviously the more water is present the worse this will happen.
BTW - I wasn't trying to bad mouth your setup. I would never badmouth someone with a 6GC because you have already proven you have style by buying the car. I would not bad mouth someone who is trying to squeeze more power out of a 6GC because I think that makes you even more unique. And I would not bad mouth someone who made his own CAI because it shows you are ingenuitive. Props to you - it was just a warning from someone who actually checked this out last night as a potential setup for his own car. -------------------- |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 5:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
oh nah man its cool hey thast wut this forum is for..help each other out and stuff..yea i see wut u mean..ummm lest say i intall a cutom grill in the "big smile" help a lil bit? |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 5:52 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Apr 28, '04 From Houston, Texas Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
It will definetly help. I'm a mechanical/hydraulic engineer by day and I was trying to come up with a solution to that myself. The idea of the mesh is what I initially thought of as well. To work correctly you would need a mesh that will permit relativly unimpeded airflow but will block water. This is a very interesting problem and I'm going to experiment with different sized meshes and try to find one that water will pour over and not through. It's just a matter of finding the right size holes. I'll let you know if I come up with anything.
BTW - That's why all the baffles in the stock fender airbox. -------------------- |
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Jun 22, 2004 - 6:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
should i be worried though???? i mean cause i heard that u would get water only if u drove into a river or something...and wut about a bypassvalve realson i dindt get one cayus it woiuld fit and way too much $$$$$ |
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Jun 23, 2004 - 12:29 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
would this grill have big enough holes for airflow yet small enought not for water to get drasticall yinside?
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2412.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2413.jpg http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/v293/l...no/IMG_2414.jpg |
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Jun 23, 2004 - 1:01 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Jun 23, 2004 - 5:09 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
shid are you on drugs?
where did you get them from? |
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Jun 23, 2004 - 9:29 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
How big was your piping? just do a write up so i can build one
-------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Jun 23, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 26, '02 From Alabama Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
So, when are you going to make one for me?
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Jun 23, 2004 - 12:49 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 28, '03 From Bloomington, IN Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Yeah Evil speed's are like 220, a lil expensive. You should make a cheaper one.
-------------------- NASA/SCCA RX-7....currently under the knife
92 Civic hatch B16 - Sold 10th anniv RX-7 - RIP The Slow Celica - Sold...and then crushed crushed due to street racing. Quote from Seinfeild: George's Boss reading a magazine: "People magazine's most beautiful people. Oh and a Celica...nothin wrong with that!" |
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Jun 23, 2004 - 2:02 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '04 From Durham, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Evil Speed's may be cleaner, but I know I didn't spend half that. I think I spent $100 total. The only real big expenses are the air filter itself and the mandrel bent pipe from JC Whitney. I took pics last night of my engine bay after doing a bit of cleaning. I'll post later tonight to add a few more photos to the mix.
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Jun 23, 2004 - 11:07 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the piping is 3 inches u can use 3 or 2.75 depends on wut u want...hehe make u some i was thinkin about starting to make custom cold air intakes like the one i did..ill post them on ebay or something and soo far its nice no probelms it rained like hell today and no problems heheh didnt even get wet.
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Jun 24, 2004 - 7:55 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '04 From Durham, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've driven in pouring rain several times since putting my CAI in... no problems.
My piping is only 2.5". The cone filter itself is 3". You can get a reducer really cheap too. |
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Jun 24, 2004 - 8:36 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yea man u can basically use a smaller size...people can be created lol |
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Jun 24, 2004 - 11:47 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 10, '04 From Durham, NC Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
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Jun 24, 2004 - 12:21 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 17, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yours looks like dr CAI same thing its under the battery...but doesnt it rest on the transmission? |
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