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[madmods]

Ok, Im going to step up to the plate and send Usafiberglass drawings/money/invader front end to get this project going thursday. This is going to be a one-off project. If you want a front end you got to let me know so a mold can be made. You also got to be able to purchase it soon. Looks like usafiberglass split up, but Im in contact with the fabricators who have started their own shop in riverside. By sending and using a vader front end, it keeps me from having to leave a car their for measurements and we know the vader front end fits. I like the last picture wannabegt4 made in the other post, and I will send that pic in with the original ones I posted. Im also sending fuzion hood pics(do a search on ebay) because they can make those cool ass hood scoops to mold in to my car. So lets do this, I need a kit badly, and the vader aint cutting it.

[WannabeGT4]

Hey man make sure they get that first picture you posted of the kit in the other topic so that they can get the bottom of the kit right cause my picture isn't that clear.

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 23, 2004 - 8:32 PM

[Exile04]

what kit are we sending them???????????

[WannabeGT4]

MadMods is sending them this one.

MadModsIdea


This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 23, 2004 - 8:33 PM

[Exile04]

ohhhhhh

[initialdrift55]

......no offense guys but wut a let down, i was hoping we'd agree on that nice silver one i forgot who it was who drew it. Oh well hopefully someone with contacts can try gettin the other kit made.

[Akimbo]

yeah, definately wont be buying that ugly thing. It reminds me of Neo's mouth in the first Matrix when the Agents wouldn't let him talk.

[x_itchy_b_x]

[madmods]

Hold on guys, look at the original silver picture. This red one is just a photoshop copy. the silver one has the racy look Im after. I also wrote about the custom scoop, and I might have him incorporate it into the mix like the silver one. I also like his acura front end, and it would be very easy to mix up both molds. Like I said this is a one-off and I got to send pics to see if he can do it. I have held back buying a kit waiting for something to happen, so Im going to have to make it happen for me at least. I really like the silver porshe picture. thats the kit I want.

[Exile04]

ya i think that kit looks very ricer honda. i like the one that we we making earlier with the GT-4 mix

[shid]

madmods, they're refering to the NICE silver picture; not the one that was posted later on.

[KAMiX]

Yeah I don't want to knock whoever did the photoshop (because it's a good job), but that bumper is pure RICE. I don't say it to piss you off mad (and if you end up getting something like that, good luck), it's just disappointing to me, we don't get new parts lined up very much and to make something like that =

I'm an Aussie, but I am definately in the market for a kit atm, and if you could bring something everyone likes to the table i would definately fork out the shipping for it. My 02c.

This post has been edited by KAMiX: Jun 24, 2004 - 1:15 AM

[madmods]

I also like this alot, with a little modification to the rectangular box with the m14 sign in it. Hey wannabeGT4 or anybody else good with photoshop, can you change colors and add the celica front end?:


Also these are hood scoops I want made FOR ME, since I know most of you wont like them.

[Exile04]

im sry but i think both of those kits are to sharp for a celica and to ricer/honda

[ToYCeLi8]

This is the kit that the other guys are talking about.

I really really do like this kit myself, I would put it on my car but preferably(sp) if it was going to be made for the GT4 look better for me. That is a SWEEEET aZZ kit, its actually making me think about changing my look i would take that front bumper w/ MAYBE MAYBE that c-one hood. So i hope you guy push this design instead. But that means you guys ACTUALLY have to purchase the kit. NOT create ANOTHER list of 20+ members that will just "SAY" they'll buy it and it dies out AGAIN! So post this up on the other boards to get the word out.
I can put my car in if needed to start the process. From what madmod said its in Riverside. Is that Riverside, California or another state? Let me know, i will do what i can.

Almost boosting,
David

This post has been edited by ToYCeLi8: Jun 24, 2004 - 4:16 AM

[macavely]

[Celicaca]

holy ****. that red one is pure crap. id rather have my stock bumper.

[WannabeGT4]

Yeah that kit isn't my favorite. What I personaly would love to see is a kit like the one NEVERSTOP is doing. I think it's a Border style front end.

[doGGy]

well, i was in the midle of the drawing YOU GUYS NEW STYLE KIT, but as long as i see i was trying empty..... What ever.... if you want somthing like evryone has then go with the style that other cars have...... if you want somthing NOT LIKE CIVICs OR Tibys have then you coulod always waited for my idea, and after that we could discusted everything.....

But as i see, i wound be needed here anymore. Go on and sent that picture or red celi.... and all you will have is just pure nonsense.....

[doGGy]

Take a look at the Celicas curves... CURVES, not rectangular shapes...... There the hell you see the rectangular shapes in the celicas design? Where? Take a look at all the best celicas kits like Varis Arising, Varis Arising II GT4....; How does these kits look? We could always make somthing like this but mix some other styles.... Like Border or other things... taking best parts from Varis, Border, Top secret and other kit, mixing them together in the best way, abd whala, we could have a kit that NO ONE has....

But if you want another FISHY MOUTH looking kit like ViS invider, then dont thing, just make 2 HUGE opening in the bumper and call this a style.....

[jgreening]

[turboinduction]

I'd like to see what Doggy made. I for one im a great fan of his work.

[blkGT]

[initialdrift55]

Thanx doggy....so can we wait for dogg's designs before we send any non-sense to usafiberglass? and refering back to first post...this is the silver kit i was talkin about madmods..

[macavely]

[Akimbo]

I want to see doggy's! He's the man at making this custom stuff!

[blkGT]

[Defgeph]

if you want this kit...

why not but a combat front bumper and mold a gt4 grill on it.
Looks just like it, this one is just a little thicker on the bottom lip.

I would like to see Doggy's Idea as well. Maybe some more photoshopped kits

IMHO this Idea above is very lame(this silver car). maybe someone can try to touch it up a little, from what I see its not creative at all. We should be looking for some type of updated styling. or we can continue to buy veilside knockoffs and for get the whole Idea of an updated kit.

I'm all for the red kit, if it doesnt go through... I'll try to make it myself.
I'm not trying to offend anyone in the post....
DEF

This post has been edited by defgeph: Jun 24, 2004 - 3:29 PM

[shid]

must.. see.. doggy's.. design.. (yeah madmods.. sorry.. but that is soooo rice)

[nicksceli]

i just read throught this topic and thought i would share my opinion so here it is. You all are too quick to flame on some one and call something rice. Personally i like the look of the one madmods posted but it is not the style that i am going for. the silver pic really lacks creativity, also it just looks like the top part of an invader with just a simple lip. it looks clean but way too stock.
Doggy i am very interested in seeing any ideas you have. everything that i have seen that you have done looks very clean but doesnt look too much like stock.

Again i am just sharing and honest opinion, and please think before you flame something or call it rice because im sure i could flip throught most peoples profiles on here and find things you would all consider rice. Atleast madmods is taking initiative and doing something to get something made and if he likes that kit and has the only one more props to him for that.

[shid]

nick, I think the reason a lot of them "flammed' so quickly is because we were all under the impression that the OTHER one was to made, not the one madmods showed us. so it was like: wtf? who what where when!/

[ToYCeLi8]

Doggy is right te celi should have a kit that compliments the CURVES of the body. I definatly want to see his design(s). I am one of his biggest fans and have bought his "products" and i ma very happy with them.

As for a car being taken in for USAfiberglass to work on Ill do it if you guys want. Its not a problem for me. I just need to make sure that it is here in Riverside,Ca, not some other state. Maybe i can take a trip over there to take a look at the place for you guys too.

Anyway i hope this turns out to be a good kit.

Almost Boosting,
David

[WannabeGT4]

Uh... madmods likes it and he personaly is getting this done for himself and putting up all the cash for it so I don't even think this is going to effect that other design you all like so much. maybe I'm wrong but with phrases like "one-off" it sounded like something he was having done once so they weren't even going to make a mold for it unless other people want one.

[WannabeGT4]

I was bored. here is a better angle of it on a celi.


This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 24, 2004 - 7:05 PM

[shid]

that looks worse than what X already has on (no offense to his taste

[WannabeGT4]

Yeah, I know, I just like photoshop .

EDIT: Oh yeah madmods I tried to photoshop that other kit and it didn't look good at all, and all these people flaming this other kit kinda has me down, makes me feel unapriciated (kinda like doggy feels I'm sure). Which reminds me, Doggy where are those drawings at. We would love to see them. Everyone else through out a couple ideas and I'll do my best to photochop them onto a celi.

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 24, 2004 - 7:30 PM

[madmods]

Guys I agree with the motion that the celica has curves. I think its got the sexiest sides any car you can ask for. Thats why i still have not bought any sideskirts yet. The pakfeifer sides are just wrong, and I have yet to find any side skirts I like for this car. I like both the porsche and noble m14, but Im also looking at the edonis front end. I also like the front end of the 2000 acura usafiberglass made a kit for. I like the M14, but its a square kit. Not a problem Lets round the sides to make it follow the celica curves. Im also looking at the edonis front end. Im on rapidcars.com looking at interiors and body styles for different ideals.
Now you guys are taking the drawings as bible. They are not. They are basically starting ideals Im going to show the fabricator to see what he can do with them. Square bodies can easily get a rounded shape to them. So lets not get all hyped up about these photos.

I figured we were not all going to agree, so this is a one-off project for me.
I believe the celica has potential to look like a wide-bodied supercar. Im personally not into the gt-4 look. Sorry but thats my opinion. Its like I have the finnished picture in my head of the car I want to build.

The problem with the group buy I had at the beginning was that I wanted a wide body rear end. Theres 95% hatchbacks hereon this site, so with me being a coup, Im out of luck. The bodys are 2 different. I knew this was going to happen, so thats why lets just make this a custom project for me. You guys can get the group buy going, Ill help anyway i can, would love to see all the ideals and doggys sketches. Also has anybody noticed that the mercedes Cl500(ithink thats the model) has the exact same sides as the celica? hmmmm aftermarket sideskirts????

Im sending in money to buy a new vader front end, so the can use the headlight part and sides as a starting point. This is for my project. Im kind of leaning towards the custom acura front end they made, but Im still looking at ideals. This is for the front clip only. I bought the pakfiefer rear end yesterday of their website, and found the tailights rom a kitcar car company that are going to be molded.

So to recap here guys, no hate, but Im going after a new look, I know its possible. I can see the finished result in my head.

[Rjb23]

I might be in for a front bumper, depending on what doggy comes up with, but only if its in poly too.

[playr158]

doggy if you don't post up your draft of a new kit i'll fly out there and woop on you. cause your kit is killer, if you don't so help me i wanna see your idea

This post has been edited by playr158: Jun 24, 2004 - 11:54 PM

[madmods]

[madmods]

[madmods]

Heres a custom acura front end in progress from usafiberglass. This would be a easy mold for them.

[doGGy]

If you gonna wait a bit, i will post all pictures after the weekend. i will have time just to make everything right. Cuz i will try to make a scetch of Sides, rear, and fron. I hade this idea for month and didnt hade time to make it real on my car. So, atleast it may help you guys to creat your own kit. On monday, im posting photoshops, hand draws and other stuff. So, if you have some patience - wait. if not, then what ever.

[madmods]

[doGGy]

well, had a bit time so made a side scetch:

It is just one of the variations of the kit im drawing.



Still have to finish the front and rear look, and after that the big part, photoshoping the real image will go...

So, just a one simpel scetch, you deside...

[celicakid84]

doggy i think that side skirt looks incredible...cant really tell bout the front or rear though...you are quite talented

[doGGy]

This is the one variation of the front:

[blkGT]

see guys thats it. its clean its simple. but you look at it and your like whoa. i wanna see that on a car

[OOBE]

I love the side, but I don't like the front because it has the sides of the everybody's bodykit. If it had more bumper area and went down lower, it would be perfect. But the side look...WOW.

[Exile04]

i like the front except for the extralong gt vent i dont know if that is soppes to be like that or not.

[Defgeph]

[fastgt]

how bout something for our coupe rear bumpers as well, some of us dont like paying a body shop to lengthen a kit for us

by the way doggy i love the design so far

This post has been edited by fastgt: Jun 25, 2004 - 3:45 PM

[DustyBurns30]

looks cool so far doggy, anyway to include wide body fender flares in there? i know that most people seemed to like the widebody idea. that coupled with your smooth flowing designs would look incredible. btw, thanks for offering your help to us for idea's.

[Jen]

I love doggy's idea. Amazing talent too.

[subsolo_21]

Doggy I don't know how you do it, but you've got some serious talent. Looks Amazing!I think this kit looks best so far.

[vangSTa_celica]

Dog is God.

[WannabeGT4]

Bored again... Hope you don't mind Doggy... Don't wanna step on any toes... This is just my style... Didn't get around to change the sideskirts though... They were pretty nice as is.



Note to Self... Shift key in photoshop draws straight lines...

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 25, 2004 - 9:37 PM

[playr158]

good stuff both doggy and wannabe....but two things

first applies to doggy's drawings, the front part of the sideskirts, right where it meets the wheel well, looks a little high i think you need to bring it down some, so that the skirt is even with the front bumper, wannabe made them even.

wannabe, now that you've spiced doggy's version up a bit you need to think about the front more, the way you have the front looking from the side is like a WALL. a flat line(when i look at the side rendering i think automatically from the side that there will be a HUGE mouth on it) try curving the front give it some shape. the celica is based off of gentle curves think about that.

but great work

[WannabeGT4]

played around with it some more... next thing I'm gonna play with is the front view. Little bit intimidated by doggy though he's got some good stuff but my tastes are a little more simple.

[Akimbo]

The first concept is my favorite, I'd totally be down with that, providing the rear and front shots are good enough. I'd rather have the second concept's rear valence on the first one. I love those skirts on #1 Wannabe!

[WannabeGT4]

yeah doggy's got some skill. Those skirts are just too much for my personal taste so I changed them to something more simple. The front I did was a little too plain so I changed it up a bit. Still brainstorming on the front view and I'd like the rear to look similar to Varis Arising II.

[initialdrift55]

Wannabe i like the way you made the sketch...the sideskirts might be too plain but i do like how they come low to match the front and rear bumpers to keep the lines. lol! the sketch looks like ure lil anime car

[Defgeph]

usdm side with no extra lines

[doGGy]

Thats it, im out... no more stuff from me, if you want to create somthing on your own, then go and do this.. If you wanted to wait, then you would waited for all the stuff that i have done. Now that are like 6 more designs, there will be a lot of desidions going on. Like: i like this and that and this is too much and stuff... If you waited for the photoshop picture of the full kit, you could judge by then, but now i just cant help you guys.

Good luck with the kit.

Romas

[WannabeGT4]

YOU F*****G BABY! WTF IS YOUR PROBLEM? GROW UP! You do some good work, but face it, not everyone is going to like it, and not everyone is going to like my ideas either. Why in the hell should we wait for you anyway? Maybe you could be a little more mature and use some of the ideas we've thrown out here to make your kit more appealing. I thought you seemed like a cool guy but now it just seems like you're a two year old who doesn't know how to share. You know what; maybe I shouldn't be so harsh since english isn't your first language. Possibly something was lost in translation, or maybe you didn't read my post when I said...

[WannabeGT4]

On a more positive note... new idea for side skirt.

[turboinduction]

[doGGy]

- never mind -

This post has been edited by doGGy: Jun 26, 2004 - 4:51 PM

[doGGy]

[playr158]

ok i can see both points and i'm not taking a side. i think that we should've waited to see the end result of ROMAS' kit though. I STILL WANNA SEE IT........
and if you could doggy, pm i need help designing a rear

[Mynzeyes]

guys, doggy isn't mad because you changed it, he's just upset that you started to change the design before it was even completed. you didn't get his whole picture before you wanted to make the picture your own.

that's just a 3rd party observance.

-John-

[shid]

Yeah.. and personally, doggy's half finished design looks better than any finished design on here so far.

Doggy, I'm going to play around with photoshop and try and take your front design kit and photoshop it on, with no changes, is that cool or do you want to do it yourself?

[doGGy]

[shid]

doggggyyy don't take that attitude. :/

[Akimbo]

So I don't understand, why are you upset Romas? And why is Wannabe being so strange? I think it was absurd to call him a "****ing baby"

[doGGy]

[jgreening]

[R-03]

doggy, i feel for you man. a few days ago i posted that i had drawn up an original sketch for this kit. i do need help posting it, but got no reply. that's cool, i just thought i'd share the stuff i had in my head. i literally had this front end drawn about 3 yrs ago, and was kinda psyched about maybe getting it produced. or even just to have ya'll evaluate.
don't get discouraged, i was really surprised when i saw your design, it's kinda like mine. if you haven't guessed by now, i too am an artist. i've had really good pieces criticized, stolen, and even destroyed. it kills you inside, unless you are an artist, you wouldn't understand. so, maybe we shouldn't be so critical.
doggy, do what you do. just don't forget that some on here really do appreciate your effort. peace.....

[playr158]

yo R if you still need help posting the pic hit me up on AOL....icyblackcelica....

[WannabeGT4]

You know what Doggy? I apologize for being so harsh. I think we would all love to see your finished design. The reason I was so harsh is cause you just gave up and I didn't understand why something like this would upset you so much (I still don't completely understand but that must be because I'm not an artist). I wasn't trying to change your design, honestly I wasn't. I just used your base celica sketch for something to start with and make my own more realistic version of my signature. I didn't say this was bad or that needed changed, I just wanted to share my ideas as well. Constructful critisism is what I thrive on and enjoy doing my best to make everyone as happy as possible. I guess we're just different in that regard. I apologize again for the crude words and hope that you realise I'm not trying to change you or your design.... I was just frustrated that someone as respected and skillful as you wouldn't show us the finished product. If I say please will you share it with us? pretty please?

[WannabeGT4]

If this was directed to me I feel a little offended. If it was directed towards the silver celica picture from the original usafiberglass thread then I couldn't agree more.

[Rjb23]

I like doggy's original design better. Wannbe's front looks to much like a blitz on an eclipse. Why not just buy an eclipse.

[KAMiX]

[madmods]

Alright, after reviewing all the drawings I have come up with the final design. I got 56 orders for it already. This is the final kit!

[madmods]

Lets keep the ideals coming seriously. This aint about taking sides. We need a bodykit, and EVERYBODY HERE has ideals and opinions. I dont like everything I have seen, but borrow a little here and there, and this might work. Theres also no need for personal attacks against fellow 6th genners here. The more ideals the better. I do appreciate wannabe photoshopping some pics I provided and welcome everybody to do their own personal twists and tears on anything I provide. Personally Im looking for a wilder yet complimenting to my celica lines. The wide body kit on the racers looks pretty cool.
My main goal with my celica is to make it look like a 2005 model. The projectors Im ordering will help, but the tailights(even jdm) are so early 90s. Not a problem for me at least, as Im willing to do a tailight conversion. The pics I provide are sort of the stuff I like personally. As I said before, I just need a front end as I got the rear and sides(on order) I want.
Here are some front ends I like.
Can someone please add these bottoms to the celica top on photoshop so I can see if I like them. Thank you everybody who has got involved!

[WannabeGT4]

[WannabeGT4]

[doGGy]

Wannabe, i understand you, and i accept your apologise. Period.

Let all forget this, and start everything in a different way. I can tell one thing guys, that we all wount agree on one thing, same with the kit, if there will be good loking for 40% of people 30% percent may think that i is ugly, and other 30% may think that it is "OK".

I dont know how to deal with this proble, we all have different tastes, but we need atleast to find somthing that is looking good, and after that make a detailed images.

Well, i will contune on my new kit idea, no mater what, i will post pics, i will try to describe everything clearly. If you will like it, then youll be able to make it.

[doGGy]

madmods, that first pic of VW, that front may look very good on celi, tomorow, then i will be at work, i will try to photoshop it. it may be a really good start point for all of us.

[madmods]

[Andason]

what kinda toyota is that? thats hot!

[WannabeGT4]

Volta concept

Volta Pics

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 27, 2004 - 10:37 AM

[jgreening]

I like this front as well Doggy:



I hope you can incorporate our headlights into this design and make it look right. Nice work posting some concepts Madmods. Also, for sideskirts, I would be interested in seeing some designs that have airvents - particularly vents that are rounded rather than with sharp angles.

This post has been edited by jgreening: Jun 27, 2004 - 12:58 PM

[Exile04]

that front looks like the silver one from the orignal thread

[ToYCeLi8]

[madmods]

[doGGy]

well, after few atemts i came up with this, using VW front, and adding some of my own style to it... It looks not too bad for me, actually it is not too agressive, and not to stock, it looks not rice either. Well guys, you have to deside anyway

[WannabeGT4]

looks pretty good. looks like it's smiling at you sorta

[ToYCeLi8]

[shid]

That looks great.. what about the possibility of a GT4 hood scoop in the front tho? Maybe not, I haven't tried it.. how much room for a FMIC would this kit have?