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does anyone know if there is a difference between the GT and ST clusters? moltar already told me something about ABS and cruise control..can anyone clarify?
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i'm almost positive all clusters are the same. mine has the ABS light, but i have no ABS...which leads me to think they are just standard for all models/years... it just wouldn't be cost effective for toyota to change something so minor for so many different applications...i'm gonna say they are all the same. ![]() -John- This post has been edited by Mynzeyes: Jul 29, 2004 - 1:42 AM -------------------- |
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thanks. pm sent
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 2, '03 From Annandale VA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
Difference is redline
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 12, '04 From hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
what's the difference in the redline?
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no difference in redline... both read 6200...
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ooohhh yeah. i think the 5sfe redlines a little higher than the 7afe. however, if you have an operating tach in your cluster, and you are wanting his for another reason, the tach will come out (2 screws on the back i think, and a plug), and your GT tach will go right in, and yes, it will function properly. i have the JDM tach in my celica, and it redlines at 7500, but it reads the RPMs normally.
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ok, now its time for me to clear all the thing up. John, you are not right saing that all the cluster are the same. I thought so before i started to deal with cluster. I bought a cluster from 97 ST, myne is 95 ST. everything is the same, even the warning lights are in the same positions, BUT wiring for warning light is different, so now i have Engine check light go up then my fuel is low, and instead of Engine light the Battery light lits up..... And as i did more research, i found that even the same year and NOT the same modification cars hade different cluster.
The Tach and Speedo and Temp and Fuel will work property, even if you install the KM/h cluster or JDM cluster (180 km/h). it will work propertly, but the difference MAY be in warning lights. -------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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oh man..i wonder if i should just buy moltar's ST guage cluster and just put it in my gt. my speedometer guage is pretty messed up. i was trying to install reverse indiglo guages and i took off the needles..stupid me. anyone selling a GT guage cluster?
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I think the only differences would be between 94-95 and 96+ models. Toyota updated a few thing in 96 on these cars. I dont think the GT and ST guages are any different from 94-95 or 96-99
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Exactly corect... OBD1 and OBD 2 have different wiring... which would explain Doggy's case. -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Just in case... my car is 95... and its OBD II ![]() -------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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really? that's weird... but then again... you're overseas... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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redline is 5800 in an st kwanza and 6200 in gt I think, but I know my fuel cuts out at 6k so I am pretty sure they arnt the same redline
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My cluster is 6200... my fuel cut is at 67xx... If anything... the 7AFE will have a far higher redline than a 5SFE... simply because of the rod-stroke ratio of the engines... This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jul 30, 2004 - 3:25 PM -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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what???? In St redline is at 6200 and myne fuel cuts at 7K rpm..... On euro GT's the redline is at 7K rpm... about OBD thing...as long as i know only 94 here in euro had OBD I, and from 95 all the celis had OBD II... -------------------- Ex celica owner - just a guy from other side of the pond...
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Ill take a picture of mine tonight
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Yep... I heard the Euro ST had fuel cut at 7K... as for the GT... is it a 5SFE GT, 3SFE, or 3SGE? I'm just curious about trim models in Europe... As for OBD... OBD1 6th gens were 94 and 95 (mine's OBD1)... and OBD2 one's came about with the facelift in 96+ -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 12, '04 From hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
damn -.- so that means i would have to buy a 94-95 gt guage cluster from the US
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all euro GT have 3S-GE (only some in UK have 3S-FE, most of them are imports from Japan).
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Fot thoes of you who wont believe me....
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i get so lost with all the numbers -.- 3sge and 7afe or whatever..
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From what I've gathered tysO, you can still use my gauge cluster and it'd be ok, but of course my redline is 6200, and yours will be a little higher. I don't see why it wouldn't read RPMs correctly though. Let me know if you are still interested. |
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pm sent
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whoa slip, that must be a 96+ thing...cause my 94 ST had a redline at 6200...
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That's why they redline at 7k... actually, I'm betting fuel cut on Euro GT's with 3SGEs is probably around 7500 rpms... the 3SFE ones should have little difference from the 5SFE... Slip: that's werid stuff man... first I've seen anything like that... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 2, '03 From Annandale VA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
I know someone else with a 96 celica, its a hatch, he has 5800 redline too, so probobly its a 96 plus thing and went with the decreased horse power
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 12, '04 From hawaii Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) ![]() |
hah..you would think as the years go on they would add more hp and stuff like that to make the car better.
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They would, if it wasnt america. Toyota screwed us US buyers
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So..you're saying I buy it I will have less miles on my car?! SCORE!! ahaha
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