 Front KYB inserts, anybody have them installed? |
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 Aug 21, 2004 - 12:47 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined Aug 30, '02 From North Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
i bought the rear gr-2 struts and am looking for the front. i was wondering how difficult it was to interchange the stock strut with the kyb gr-2 cartridge. or, where could i find some koni front struts. thanks
adam -------------------- MISS THE CELI, BUT...
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Aug 21, 2004 - 1:09 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
the hardst part is removing the nut that hold the insert in the strut housing... the KYB the Koni and the OEM toyota insert all fit fine with no problem... i'll post a pic of how the fit later tonight..
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Aug 21, 2004 - 1:10 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
oh yea you can get both the KYB and the Koni from TireRack.com.. they have the best prices i have seen ..
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Aug 24, 2004 - 8:14 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 30, '03 From Atlanta Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
its not hard at all. i think it only took me 10 mins to change them once i had them off the car. you just unscrew a nut, then the old insert comes out and you put the new one in and tighten the nut.
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Aug 24, 2004 - 1:30 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Basically to ellaborate on what the others said...
1. take out the old strut and the spring (under compression) 2. place strut in a vice clamp and secure (to get the nut off) EDIT 2: Also...tilt the top of the strut up a little, otherwise it might get messy ... a 30/45 degree angle is fine 3. use an adjustable wrench and break the nut lose 4. let the yucky stuff spill out somewhere 5. install your new strut, and use the new nut that came with it 6. go drink something |
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Aug 24, 2004 - 2:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
here are some pics.. oncer you take the sturt off and remover the spring, undo this nut
 oncer you have it off  pull out the old insert and replace it with the new one.. and if you have the original ones still in what out for the oil..  -------------------- |
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Aug 25, 2004 - 4:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 19, '03 From NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Mac, did you replace front also if yes did you have to cut it or was it direct replacement
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Aug 25, 2004 - 5:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
na i haven't installed the struts in yet.. but know you don't have to cut them... the bolt might be on tight but with the right tools it's esay to get off no need to cut.. -------------------- |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 9:26 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
1. take out the old strut and the spring (under compression)
what do u mean when u said under compression? thinking about changing struts too |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 11:21 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 10, '03 From Connecticut Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Means if u arent careful it'll shoot out and kill innocent kittens.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 11:33 AM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHA yup,... EXACTLY what he said! 
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Aug 26, 2004 - 12:06 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
yep, the springs in front are under compression. Meaning, if you loosen the top nut (look below) it'll shoot off with the spring, break your arm, and kill many kittens. Bad in all situations. Unless its evil kittens. Then do it. But watch out for your arm. Wait, i'm rambling. Top Nut - If you pop your hood you'll see 3 nuts on each strut tower. In the middle of those nuts, you'll see a BIGGER nut not attached to the body. Thats the top nut. To remove strut assembly - Of course, take off your wheel. Take off those 3 nuts in the engine bay, the strut will drop about 2-3" in the well. Dont worry. Take off the 2 large bolts on the control arm. They are sideways, cant miss em. Behind the strut, take off the brake line bolt. This doesn't do anything except keep the brake line from messing around. Lay those aside, give her a tug and yank out the assembly. Place in a spring compression, tighten. Take off the top bolt. The strut will fall to the ground. hehe, got you. Take the strut, remove the nut around the base, and take out the insert (or original with lots of oil mind you ) and replace with new insert and new base nut. Go back to your spring compressor and place the strut assembly back in and retighten the top nut (unless your planning on changing springs too - then just replace the spring). Once tight, replace assembly back into the car in reverse order. Enjoy.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 1:42 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
do i need a torque wrench for any of this?
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:11 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
You most certainly do. Preferably one that goes up to 150 lb-ft. Check out my site (linked below), it has some info on the procedure.
I also recommend a pipe wrench for the strut inserts. For me a vice didn't do the trick. Other things... you may want a file and some paint to kill any rust you run across. High temp bearing grease is a must. Strut boots may be necessary if yours are in bad shape. Be prepared for needing to order a part if you discover something broken. edit: If you don't have the torques, I recommend getting a Chilton's. Well worth the money. If not, pm me and I'll send 'em to you. This post has been edited by mr_dude: Aug 26, 2004 - 2:12 PM --------------------  |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:35 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
nice write up dude |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:40 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
i didnt know a torque wrench was that important just thought as long as i bolt that **** back up it be ok
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Most of the time that will work.
Some of the time that will break things. Not all nuts can take the beating you give  Some of the time you're under torque even though you're pushing as hard as you can. The rear suspension knuckle for example. That can cause things to fall apart down the road when you've forgotten about it. Borrow a torque wrench. Or buy one, they're neat. edit: thanks turbo! This post has been edited by mr_dude: Aug 26, 2004 - 2:50 PM -------------------- |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:50 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
Im thinking about borrowing torque wrench. Im thinking of changing my bros rear struts and need to buy tools any suggestions besides torque wrench. Like a 120 or 150 pc craftsman tool set. thanks
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:55 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Impact wrenches are the greatest things on earth. Way better than candy corn.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 2:59 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
whats that sorry for being stupid |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 3:23 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Those drill-looking things that they used to put on and remove wheels (autoshops, nascar, etc). Make a cool whirring sound.
Air powered, provide a series of short impacts to put on or remove a nut. Saved my ass from having to cut and reorder a strut insert... don't ask. -------------------- |
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Aug 26, 2004 - 3:28 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Mar 20, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
yea those are cool and saves time
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Aug 26, 2004 - 3:33 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Air tools. You do need them for this project. Its almost impossible to get those 2 large bolts on the steering knuckle off without an impact wrench. Just a little FYI for you Do-It-Yourself'ers. In fact, dont get scared if you dont have this tool. If you doing this type of project, I'm sure you'll need to just an air tool again. Its not a bad idea to go purchase one from a tool store (not walmart.)
 Again good luck guys.
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Aug 26, 2004 - 5:17 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 16, '04 From San Diego Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Nah, I just stuck the wrench into the ground and eased the car off the jacks. The weight of it turned the wrench and loosened the bolt.
Just kidding, but I did get it off with the help of a friend and ratchet extension. -------------------- |
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Aug 28, 2004 - 2:36 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 30, '02 From North Carolina Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
are those the stock front struts? mine don't look like that. i had to beat that nut off when i put my coil-overs on so the sleeve would fit onto the strut. adam -------------------- MISS THE CELI, BUT...
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Aug 31, 2004 - 7:11 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
no they are not the OEM ones they are KYB"S ... the stock ones are black and a lot tinner then that..
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Sep 3, 2004 - 10:49 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Feb 25, '04 From Wisconsin Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
just to clarify: that is the stock front strut assembly however, that is a new KYB strut insert |
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Sep 3, 2004 - 5:16 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 19, '03 From NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I see that mine front struts were different, they didnt have that nut only a cap . I think Toyota changed struts on later models.
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Sep 13, 2004 - 8:20 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 18, '02 From Northern, Virginia Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
guys, do the kybs lower the car any from stock?
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Sep 26, 2004 - 4:45 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jun 14, '04 From Wimborne Dorset England Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Anyone know or has removed the standard kyb cartridge from the Superstrut Setup, Ive heard it cant be done but it looks very similar to the pics here!
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Sep 29, 2004 - 6:19 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 27, '02 From Derry,NH USA Currently Offline Reputation: 9 (100%) |
Why type of performance difference do you get from swapping the stock Mcpherson setup to KYB? Smooth ride? Better handling? etc...LET ME KNOW PLEASE! I have to replace the struts in my 92..and if I like them,I will do it in my 97.
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