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post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:08 AM
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I have a friend who was just givin an stx coupe. He says that it does come with a different stroke and cams. I didn't belive him, so , he took me for a ride. He only has an intake and that thing pulls way harder than my st. For even more testing, I raced him. To my surprise he won by a 3/4 to 1 carlength. I have full exhaust with no cat and a resonator. He also said it has different gearing, but I did'nt pay attention to where he shifted in my ride along. He also said it comes with stiffer suspension and that it came from the factory with an unclearcoated front bumper. Also his is like 190 something of like 250. So, uh, I'm really confused.
post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:41 AM
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STX & GTX

Not sure if there's anything more to it then what is explained on that site.
post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:45 AM
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They're the same... STX is just a dealer packaged car... but engine-wise... same as the regular ST...


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:46 AM
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your friends is full of sheat.. its just a dealer option of some sort.. theres no dif between engines or trannys or gears.. tell him hes a dumbass
post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:47 AM
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problem with that site is, is that his car is a 95'
post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:49 AM
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I almost forgot, his timing is advanced. I don't know by how much, but it still should have been a closer race. We both started from a roll in 2nd at the same speed at the same time and he pulled almost a car. Well, maybe my timing is really crappy. I advanced mine today. I'm not sure by how much though because I did it blind with no timing light and just made sure it did't knock. btw my distributer is turned as far advanced as possible yet the idle is only a little worse.

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post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:50 AM
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QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 23, 2004 - 5:47 AM)
problem with that site is, is that his car is a 95'

trust me man... it's all the same.

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If it makes you feel any better... my ST, as it is currently (detuned... going back to stock)... I'll almost gurantee you I'll put at least a car on your friend... but you know what? We're talking over the internet and it means next to nothing... consider while I'm racing him... a minivan is gonna pull ahead of us and flip us off for going too slow in the "fast" lane... all in all, what I'm trying to say is... Celica ST's are 17 second cars...

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post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:53 AM
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QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 23, 2004 - 5:49 AM)
I'm not sure by how much though because I did it blind with no timing light and just made sure it did't knock. btw my distributer is turned as far advanced as possible yet the idle is only a little worse.

I don't reccomend that...


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 12:56 AM
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QUOTE (Kwanza26 @ Aug 23, 2004 - 5:53 AM)
QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 23, 2004 - 5:49 AM)
I'm not sure by how much though because I did it blind with no timing light and just made sure it did't knock. btw my distributer is turned as far advanced as possible yet the idle is only a little worse.

I don't reccomend that...

I know. I'm gonna try to convince my auto tech teacher to let me bring in my car and use a timing gun. How much are they anyway.
post Aug 23, 2004 - 1:23 PM
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hey justin its james, "the supra mechanic" just bring your celica over to bills...we have a timing light and any other tool you might need to do some more work on your celica.

no offense to anyone, but the st and stx cannot be the exact same because when is the last time you saw a stock st pull on a light moded mustang gt?...i saw the stx do so right in front of me this weekend...and all we put on the stx is intake and advanced timing...

"quote from kwanza26" If it makes you feel any better... my ST, as it is currently (detuned... going back to stock)... I'll almost gurantee you I'll put at least a car on your friend...

i seriously doubt that from watching this stx perform this weekend...unless youve got i-h-e, ignition and cams...and you say your going back to stock so...you apparently dont have these things at least anymore...

and if any one wants to talk about how a 3s-gte motor is better than a 2jz in a supra...yousa damn fool...you show me a 1450whp 3s-gte and then ill believe that its a better motor then...the reason they swap a 3s-gte into supras for racing is because in jgtc the make a good amount of power and are a great motor, but they are good few hundred pounds lighter than a 2jz...thats why they swap...also $15g in a mkiv supra will get you into low 10's as long as you know what you are doing. the supra that i have helped build up ran a 12.0 quarter w/ only $4500 invested in the motor on stock turbos, ic, fuel sys, suspension and walmart tires! should be running low to mid 11's on low boost now.

now im not trying to start **** and im sorry if it sounds that way...i just know what ive seen and im just trying to explain the evidence.

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post Aug 23, 2004 - 1:32 PM
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Trust us...we live Celicas day in and day out...The Celica STX has the exact same engine as the Celica ST. Maybe the ST you're comparing the STX to isn't running optimally...the same thing could be true with the Mustang that the Celica STX pulled on. But I know for sure that the Celica STX has the same 7A-FE engine as the Celica ST.

And where did the 3S-GTE vs. 2JZ-GTE argument come from? Lets keep this thread on topic.


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 1:44 PM
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sorry about the rant on the motors, i just saw someone saying that the 3s-gte can make more power than a 2jz. i live supras day in and day out...so i know for a fact thats not true.

but i just dont think i can be convinced otherwise of the st and stx being the same because of how that car performs infront of my own eyes. the information about the differnce in motors comes from the stx owner who drove it every day for 2 years before coming to own it. it pulled on mustang gt's then and it still does now. this person has also owned a 6th gen gt-4 for 4 years so he is a celica enthusiast as well and has done a lot of research on his celicas.

please dont get me wrong, im not trying to down celicas in anyway.i know they are great cars.

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QUOTE (jmoneydtb @ Aug 23, 2004 - 11:44 AM)
but i just dont think i can be convinced otherwise of the st and stx being the same because of how that car performs infront of my own eyes. the information about the differnce in motors comes from the stx owner who drove it every day for 2 years before coming to own it. it pulled on mustang gt's then and it still does now. this person has also owned a 6th gen gt-4 for 4 years so he is a celica enthusiast as well and has done a lot of research on his celicas.

His close-to-stock Celica STX pulls on Mustang GTs? Aren't those the ones with the V8s? My Celica ST got beat by a newer auto V6 Mustang back in the day, so that Mustang driver must really not know how to drive or must have a severely messed up car or something. Because it's a known fact that the Celica STX has the exact same engine as the Celica ST.

You know someone who owns a GT-Four in the US? Tell them to come on here.


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 2:32 PM
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same guy that owns this apparently unusually fast stx, his name is tony, and his brother bill, my best friend is the owner of the supra ive mentioned...and i am looking at a mr2 turbo right now, but if it falls through i wouldnt mind having a 6th gen celica...then we could have our race team made up mainly of toyotas...i want justin to join up with our team as well...

only trouble with tony coming on here is that he doesnt have a computer...
post Aug 23, 2004 - 3:00 PM
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QUOTE (jmoneydtb @ Aug 23, 2004 - 12:32 PM)
only trouble with tony coming on here is that he doesnt have a computer...

At least get some pics of his car for us then. smile.gif


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 4:37 PM
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well I am bill, the guy with the supra mentioned above, also the mechanic of all the cars that jmoneydtb mentioned and not to start anything but the stx pulled a full car on the mustang with no problem I was right there with them and there was absolutley nothing wrong with the mustang gt and all my brothers car has is an intake, but the mustang sounded fine just to let you guys know.
post Aug 23, 2004 - 4:39 PM
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It's a V8 Mustang, right? If so, it may have sounded fine, but it either had some serious problems or a really bad driver to get beat by a stock Celica ST.


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 4:45 PM
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it was a v8 mustang and the guy drove it fine didn't miss a gear or anything. and the car was running perfectly trust me
post Aug 23, 2004 - 5:04 PM
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tell this guy who has the stx to race the mustang again and when and if it happens, get it on video and post it. until then, i call b.s.

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post Aug 23, 2004 - 5:16 PM
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we should get one of those guys that have an stx.. i remeber when i fist joined up here i emailed one of the about one of the mods he had on his car.. we should contact that guy and ask him.. or get intoch with someone the works at toyota


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Mr.Supra...quoting this from another forum & I will find more to back it up.

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now...the 3S-GTE, is also a very great motor...there are LOTS of parts available for it, but they come at a slightly higher price than those for the DSM Mill...Also remember that the Tom's Toyota Supra uses a 3S-GTE Mill...the downside to the 3S is that it was only available in 2 cars...the MR2 and the All-Trac Celica...


Why would a crappy 3s-gte motor be in a supra?! redface.gif wink.gif (will edit my post with more info.) Also not saying that it is still in use but they had to be using it in the past for a reason...

Edit: Anyone knows with the HP rating from a HKS Drag Celica? I can't seem to find them. =/

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QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 2:45 PM)
it was a v8 mustang and the guy drove it fine didn't miss a gear or anything. and the car was running perfectly trust me

Yeah, get it on video. There's no way that a stock V8 Mustang in good condition driven by a good driver would lose to a stock Celica ST.


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BS



a dealer loaded st-x w/ a cold air intake will not beat a gt period.

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post Aug 23, 2004 - 5:37 PM
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ever consider the fact that the mustang was not racing?

v8 cars can be loud, even when they are not trying to go anywhere. what year mustang was it? any mustang that isnt a NA 4cylinder mustang is faster than a celica ST/STX

any 7afe powered 6gc will need ~200hp to pull on a mustang GT, how do i know? because i had one, turbo ST at 8psi, it was faster than 1999+ GT's which, stock for stock, are faster than all the other 90's mustangs. from a stop, it was pretty even until around 70mph, but from 20mph, i was always atleast 2 cars ahead. thats with stock mustangs, anything beyond exhaust on a 99+ GT they make huge gains.

are you saying that cams and timing make almost as much of a difference as 8psi of boost?

even if the STX came with special performance mods such as advanced timing and different cams, a 7afe with out nitrous or boost or serious internal mods, is slow and under the 130 crank hp mark

it wouldnt even be as powerful as a plain 6gc GT

i also doubt that the same guy owned a 6th gen GT4, let alone selling it and buying an ST


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 7:18 PM
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I think I'm gonna stop trying to explain shiat to people who just don't listen... If you're conviced your friend's STX is fast and apparently will not listen to anything other than that... then whatever dude...
It's pretty obvious your knowledge about cars is pretty limited also... so believe what you want to... and don't ask questions if you're not gonna listen.


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post Aug 23, 2004 - 7:26 PM
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this topic is getting ceazy .. let just take his word for it and leave it at that.. and hope he shows prof..


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QUOTE (jmoneydtb @ Aug 23, 2004 - 6:23 PM)
"quote from kwanza26" If it makes you feel any better... my ST, as it is currently (detuned... going back to stock)... I'll almost gurantee you I'll put at least a car on your friend...

i seriously doubt that from watching this stx perform this weekend...unless youve got i-h-e, ignition and cams...and you say your going back to stock so...you apparently dont have these things at least anymore...

and if any one wants to talk about how a 3s-gte motor is better than a 2jz in a supra...yousa damn fool...you show me a 1450whp 3s-gte and then ill believe that its a better motor then...the reason they swap a 3s-gte into supras for racing is because in jgtc the make a good amount of power and are a great motor, but they are good few hundred pounds lighter than a 2jz...thats why they swap...also $15g in a mkiv supra will get you into low 10's as long as you know what you are doing. the supra that i have helped build up ran a 12.0 quarter w/ only $4500 invested in the motor on stock turbos, ic, fuel sys, suspension and walmart tires! should be running low to mid 11's on low boost now.

now im not trying to start **** and im sorry if it sounds that way...i just know what ive seen and im just trying to explain the evidence.

Hehe...

BTW: Who makes cams for the 7AFE? Unless it's custom... NOBODY DOES. Curious why you guys keep bringing it up. Just so you know, toyota FE heads don't respond well to any bolt-on modifications... dyno proven. You'll get maybe 5-10 hp TOTAL... I've built 2 Celica ST's to date so I've been around the engine with a highly built motor and a mildly tuned motor, and I just don't see it as a big performance engine with the stock head in n/a trim. Narrow angle design, limited cam timing, no great flow or induction, weak valvetrain, PURE ECONO motor... explain to me how you could possibly classify this car... or to be more exact, this motor, to be anything related to performance? Do that, and tell me your exact mods, which I'll tell you now, I HAVE done before (cause I've done just about everything possible to the 7AFE n/a, with exception to cams), and maybe someone here will believe you. Sounds more like you're just a bunch of high-school kids all into the current fad racing scene, as you list ignition wires and such as performance parts... rolleyes.gif

With that said... your friend cannot beat me... the only thing I lack, is my S-AFC... which limits me back to my stock econo fuel maps. Even still... my car will run low 16's without hesitation... and that's saying something with regard to these car's.

As for engines... who brought up the 2JZ? It's like comparing apples and oranges... when comparing the 2JZGTE to the 3SGTE. FYI... the 2JZ is a renowned DRAG motor... while the 3SGTE is a TRACK motor. Know your differences before you start going off on numbers. I'll tell you now... a 1200 whp Supra ain't gonna beat a 500 whp MR-2 or Celica on the track... a little something called traction.

To finish... I know you're not trying to talk shiat or anything like that, but some people here know their stuff... and if you're gonna argue against the contrary, you better know you're stuff and have the experience to back it up... a bit beyond asking everyone to take your word for it...


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i agree with kwanza completly(simply cuz he knows his s**t)
but anyways no one ever said that the 3s is better than the 2jz...they are both great motors but in their own ways(apples and oranges people)

secondly lets state the obvious
1. never will a stock(or semi modified) st beat a stock gt (keep in mind both good drivers and both cars in good condition)

2. our motors were obviously not built for high hp numbers..you want power buy yourself a 3sgte or a 4ag(z)e

3. unless you have proof, dont state bogus crap...my friend has a 2jz in his celi, or i know a guy who did the awd conversion....MY FRIENDS ST BEAT A V8 MUSTANG!!!! look we all know your lying. basically in this forum we all think you are guilty until proven innocent...so if you dont got proof dont even post it

4. before you post something, search it most of the stupid (some not stupid) questions have been answered already just 80% of the people here are too lazy to search

5. drop the stx gtx subject already...theres no performance difference , get over it , you're not special.

6. dont get me wrong i love the supra and i would kill for one. but on the track a celi or a mr2 would waste a supra...and on the dragstrip it depends on what you got


i didnt mean to offend anybody specifically...but seriously people READ AND DO YOUR RESEARCH!!!

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post Aug 23, 2004 - 8:53 PM
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The stx did beat the stang gt though. They were right in front of me. I know it's nothing without proof. Maybe the gt driver sucked, who knows.
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Its pretty simple. You lost torque by having an exhaust that decreased backpressure to the point of losing power. That is why unless you turbo your car or have some other type of forced induction you do not want a big exhaust with no cats. you lose backpressure and therefore lose torque. Easy and simple as that. The STX is the same as ST but if you take an STX vs. an ST with minimal backpressure which causes torque loss....well then your ST is slower. DER!


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the only way that st beat the stang is if the v8 was falling apart , the guy mishifts like crazy....or threw it in reverse instead of first

dude my gt cant even take a stang

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QUOTE (Justin @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:53 PM)
The stx did beat the stang gt though. They were right in front of me. I know it's nothing without proof. Maybe the gt driver sucked, who knows.

How about this, cause everyone will continue to speak against you: get a dv-cam, a stang, the famous STX & record it all & just upload it so we can see it & if it's what you say, you'll shut alot of us up, if not then you dug yourself into your own hole so we can finally drop this subject.
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look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the stang gt which is a slow ass car anyway and so you know it was a 98 stang and we aren't trying to impress the idiots on this board who think they are the **** with a 16 second car bottom line is that until you see the car which justin did or ride in it which justin did do then you don't know **** about the car the mustang didn't miss a gear and yes he did try to race the celica and there are 5 of us plus the guy in the mustang that all know he lost to a stock stx with a homemade cold air that me and my brother made and put on the car earlier that day if you doubt me **** you too I really don't give a **** cuz I watched it happen just like justin,jmoneydtb,and my fiancee. and if you did know **** about the stx then you would know that the rods are just a bit longer for higher compression the stx dynos 150 to the tires and the st puts what 110 so obviously somethin is different call bs or whatever none of us have to prove **** to any of you especially since we all saw it this is the third stx that I have personally seen put 150 to the tires in totally stock settings.
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Dude, words are words. Show proof or just leave the topic alone, only thing everyone else is gonna say at this point.
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and to 97sccelica he does have a gt4 celica we will probably be working on that in the coming weeks just to let you know
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The 90-93 Celicas came in four main trims: ST, GT, GT-S, and All-Trac. Two trims that were not offered at the factory level are the STX and the GTX. What exactly are they?

The STX and GTX were offered at the dealer-level. They were used to promote the car similar to how "Special Edition" will catch a buyer's attention. The "X" trim levels made the Celica ST and GT seem more unique, special, and rare.

The most common addition to the STX and GTX trims is the badging. They included pinstriping and STX and GTX badges on the sides and rear. The STX received:

a rear spoiler (not originally offered at the factory- or dealer-level with the ST),
aluminum wheels (not originally offered at the factory- or dealer-level with the ST),
and (in some cases) the Power Package (power windows and power locks; not offered at the factory- or dealer-level with the ST).
The GTX has the same available options as a regular GT but with the addition of the GTX badging. Despite rumors, they have no advantages in performance. No super-special engine; no super-special suspension.

The STX and GTX are the ST and GT with eXtra options. Emphasis on the "X" badging.


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guy please go back to the rock you crawled under from. you guys cant even come up with one ounce of evidence that an STX has longer rods

why ? because it doesnt ! show me some part numbers how about some pictures

oh wait thats right you dont have any. we try to stay truthful here, and help each other out. so I would suggest dropping ur story, cause that all it is

I would love to see a dyno video of your 150 WHP stx.

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QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 7:39 PM)
look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the stang gt which is a slow ass car anyway and so you know it was a 98 stang and we aren't trying to impress the idiots on this board who think they are the **** with a 16 second car bottom line is that until you see the car which justin did or ride in it which justin did do then you don't know **** about the car the mustang didn't miss a gear and yes he did try to race the celica and there are 5 of us plus the guy in the mustang that all know he lost to a stock stx with a homemade cold air that me and my brother made and put on the car earlier that day if you doubt me **** you too I really don't give a **** cuz I watched it happen just like justin,jmoneydtb,and my fiancee. and if you did know **** about the stx then you would know that the rods are just a bit longer for higher compression the stx dynos 150 to the tires and the st puts what 110 so obviously somethin is different call bs or whatever none of us have to prove **** to any of you especially since we all saw it this is the third stx that I have personally seen put 150 to the tires in totally stock settings.

well...uh uh uh....my gt came with a limited edition trd supercharger its called the gt-z


seriously....talk is cheap....u show me dyno sheets of the car , video of the race and if your so sure that the stx puts down that power

what did the gtx put down? why would toyota only make that for the stx not the gtx....or the gt or the st...why is your so special...its obviously bull and you want to convince us

look im done with this post i hate arguing with people that dont know any better and try to pretend that they know about cars


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QUOTE (Meonspeed @ Aug 23, 2004 - 10:49 PM)
Dude, words are words. Show proof or just leave the topic alone, only thing everyone else is gonna say at this point.

^^ that's to 6g members too, we are just gonna keep arguing over this & without proof , its pointless so just sit back & drink a cold one. tongue.gif
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same engine teh only thing is that theres that bbs rims that comes with it with 205
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i call bs on beating a mustang .... i live in detroit and i know that my stx will never beat one unless heavily modded
i have stx and its no different from my old st just mo options

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like i said before, get those two guys to race each other, record and upload it. if this stx wins, it will shut all of us up. so until then, stfu and and take out your spoon and start eatin all of your b.s.

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HA!! I like it when people fight.
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look if you dont believe us...fine...we will get proof...im not real sure about the hp numbers but i do know that this stx pulled a car length on a white 98 4.6gt mustang with exhaust work. i am not trying to start anything with anyone. but why try to down someone saying they know nothing about cars because of a kill story they tell that no one believes...even though there have been 3 eye witnesses post on this board. i dont see what everyone is getting so pissy about. we will try to have a video camera out next weekend and try to find a gt mustang to pick on if it will make everyone happy. till then ive gotta quit reading this thing or imll get all pissy myself.
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Well ok people I tested it. My brother has a 98 mustang gt and my girlfriend owns 94 st with intake and exhaust. My brother owned.gif me in the race. So the point is get over it. The mustang kicked my ass. And I can make a video for proof but is it really worth it!!!
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Oh sorry she owns an STX (like there is a difference)
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Oh and my brother has an 86 5.0 mustang and it owned.gif me to!!! End of thread. Yes I know mustangs are crappy fords and we all like to say the famous saying Found On Road Dead and all the other ones but a mustang will own a celica st anyday unless there are major mods to the st and nothing to the mustang.
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I got it guys!!! This 98 mustang GT got exaust work, but beign a dumbass got 1.5 pipes instead of upping to a 3 inch or so. Then, when he probably put a cold air or something on, he left a grease rag in the intake. Oh yeah, his front tires work flat, and his emergency brake was on.


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BTY I'm not starting ****. I am just impling that I have raced Mustangs in STX and got my ass handed to me on a plate of burned rubber!
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QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:39 PM)
look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the stang gt which is a slow ass car anyway and so you know it was a 98 stang and we aren't trying to impress the idiots on this board who think they are the **** with a 16 second car bottom line is that until you see the car which justin did or ride in it which justin did do then you don't know **** about the car the mustang didn't miss a gear and yes he did try to race the celica and there are 5 of us plus the guy in the mustang that all know he lost to a stock stx with a homemade cold air that me and my brother made and put on the car earlier that day if you doubt me **** you too I really don't give a **** cuz I watched it happen just like justin,jmoneydtb,and my fiancee. and if you did know **** about the stx then you would know that the rods are just a bit longer for higher compression the stx dynos 150 to the tires and the st puts what 110 so obviously somethin is different call bs or whatever none of us have to prove **** to any of you especially since we all saw it this is the third stx that I have personally seen put 150 to the tires in totally stock settings.

no punctuation makes me go crosseyed...

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QUOTE (Mynzeyes @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:50 PM)
QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:39 PM)
look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the stang gt which is a slow ass car anyway and so you know it was a 98 stang and we aren't trying to impress the idiots on this board who think they are the **** with a 16 second car bottom line is that until you see the car which justin did or ride in it which justin did do then you don't know **** about the car the mustang didn't miss a gear and yes he did try to race the celica and there are 5 of us plus the guy in the mustang that all know he lost to a stock stx with a homemade cold air that me and my brother made and put on the car earlier that day if you doubt me **** you too I really don't give a **** cuz I watched it happen just like justin,jmoneydtb,and my fiancee. and if you did know **** about the stx then you would know that the rods are just a bit longer for higher compression the stx dynos 150 to the tires and the st puts what 110 so obviously somethin is different call bs or whatever none of us have to prove **** to any of you especially since we all saw it this is the third stx that I have personally seen put 150 to the tires in totally stock settings.

no punctuation makes me go crosseyed...

150hp to the wheels with a 7afe that just has slightly longer rods makes me crosseyed

how bout you post pics of the celica on the dyno, and the dyno sheets

o and how bout pics of the car that was never sold in the US, yet this guy manages to have one and still thinks his ST is fast

and if you really didnt give a **** what we thought of your claims, you would just leave the forum

but clearly you do care

as much as me and some other people care that new people dont get the idea that an STX is any faster than a normal ST


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LMAO@! thats funny...... straight up funny, I might of believed it if the mustang has probs with it.. only because theres a kid I know with a real cobra that runs like poop... haha but thats only cuz hes and idiot and doesnt realize that running on only 2 firing injectors is bad biggrin.gif


other than that.... NO WAY NOT POSSIBLE for a 4.6 to lose to ne celi that doesnt have some kind of FI on it. I remember running my friends 4.6 with my 94 celi before the swap and I had a decent amount of things done to it... let me tell you I got really familiar with his tail lights

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QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 23, 2004 - 9:39 PM)
look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the stang gt which is a slow ass car anyway and so you know it was a 98 stang and we aren't trying to impress the idiots on this board who think they are the **** with a 16 second car bottom line is that until you see the car which justin did or ride in it which justin did do then you don't know **** about the car the mustang didn't miss a gear and yes he did try to race the celica and there are 5 of us plus the guy in the mustang that all know he lost to a stock stx with a homemade cold air that me and my brother made and put on the car earlier that day if you doubt me **** you too I really don't give a **** cuz I watched it happen just like justin,jmoneydtb,and my fiancee. and if you did know **** about the stx then you would know that the rods are just a bit longer for higher compression the stx dynos 150 to the tires and the st puts what 110 so obviously somethin is different call bs or whatever none of us have to prove **** to any of you especially since we all saw it this is the third stx that I have personally seen put 150 to the tires in totally stock settings.

kid i was on your side till this... there are way to many people the know the ins and outs of a 6gc.. guys like neverstop and lagos that have done swaps with there own hands. others of use that have read the entire toyota repair book cover to cover.. on this site just like anyother one.. when you say something that is belived to be untrue show proof .. just like i can say a black ST was keeping up with 2 GT on the turn pike with no problems.. just look at my siq.. and when ever jeff gets the video back from me there will be more proof..


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QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 24, 2004 - 2:39 AM)
look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the stang gt which is a slow ass car anyway and so you know it was a 98 stang and we aren't trying to impress the idiots on this board who think they are the **** with a 16 second car bottom line is that until you see the car which justin did or ride in it which justin did do then you don't know **** about the car the mustang didn't miss a gear and yes he did try to race the celica and there are 5 of us plus the guy in the mustang that all know he lost to a stock stx with a homemade cold air that me and my brother made and put on the car earlier that day if you doubt me **** you too I really don't give a **** cuz I watched it happen just like justin,jmoneydtb,and my fiancee. and if you did know **** about the stx then you would know that the rods are just a bit longer for higher compression the stx dynos 150 to the tires and the st puts what 110 so obviously somethin is different call bs or whatever none of us have to prove **** to any of you especially since we all saw it this is the third stx that I have personally seen put 150 to the tires in totally stock settings.

Heheheh... you really have no clue as to what you're talking about... but oh well...

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QUOTE (blksp63supra @ Aug 24, 2004 - 2:39 AM)
look just so you idiots know the stx did pull the stang gt which is a slow ass car anyway and so you know it was a 98 stang and we aren't trying to impress the idiots on this board who think they are the **** with a 16 second car bottom line is that until you see the car which justin did or ride in it which justin did do then you don't know **** about the car the mustang didn't miss a gear and yes he did try to race the celica and there are 5 of us plus the guy in the mustang that all know he lost to a stock stx with a homemade cold air that me and my brother made and put on the car earlier that day if you doubt me **** you too I really don't give a **** cuz I watched it happen just like justin,jmoneydtb,and my fiancee. and if you did know **** about the stx then you would know that the rods are just a bit longer for higher compression the stx dynos 150 to the tires and the st puts what 110 so obviously somethin is different call bs or whatever none of us have to prove **** to any of you especially since we all saw it this is the third stx that I have personally seen put 150 to the tires in totally stock settings.

Hey how about telling use about the other 2 so called STX's. Or better yet STOP pulling **** out of your ass and smearing it all over a perfectly good post (In other words stop wasting space.). Half the people on this site own ST's or so called STX's and the know just about every little detail of the car from top to bottom. The people here know what they are taking about.

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I have an STX... I was playing around with a friend in a 1988 Buick Century with 4 people in it... he beat me... and no, Im not a bad driver. thumbsdown.gif


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