 Boosted convertable??, Will the frame hold up? |
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 Sep 12, 2004 - 10:05 PM
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Enthusiast  Joined Aug 26, '04 From St. Cloud, Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%)  |
I heard from a topic about a month ago that a boosted convertable is not a very good idea because the frame is weak and can't handle the extra torque say around 8PSI. Is this true? Before I start saving for a turbo/supercharger kit, I just want to know will a convertable hold up to the extra power? If it won't then i'll just go show with some simple bolt ons.
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Sep 12, 2004 - 10:15 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Its an unknown. But you may want to ask again in a week.
 Here is a good thread where it was discussed:Chassis Flex Post This post has been edited by jgreening: Sep 13, 2004 - 8:22 AM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 12, 2004 - 10:24 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 26, '04 From St. Cloud, Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
If the convertables are bad for boost, then how come some s2000's are running on vortech superchargers and 12+psi boosted? aren't all convertables the same?
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Sep 12, 2004 - 10:26 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No. Convertibles like the Vette and the S2000 were designed to handle the horsepower - that is, they were designed as convertibles. Our cars were once coupes that got the tops cut off in California by a company called American Sunroof Company (ASC). The roof in a standard car provides much of its ridgity - when you cut it off, the ridgity is lessened significantly. ASC did provide some structural enhancements but they were all rear of the lock pillar. The flex is going to occur in the front cowl.
This post has been edited by jgreening: Sep 12, 2004 - 10:28 PM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 12, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
It should be ok; your car isn't going to snap in half. I'd start doing chassis bracing tho; DG sells some stuff.
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Sep 12, 2004 - 10:30 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 4, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
you cant compare a sports car like a s2k or 350z vert to a celica. they are made different each vert frame is ment for a purpose in which case the celica is ment for around 125 hp.
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Sep 12, 2004 - 10:48 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 26, '04 From St. Cloud, Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
is there anyone on this forum with a boosted convertable? I want to know how it is working for them and what did they have to mod or fix any problems they had.
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Sep 12, 2004 - 10:54 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Gosh... you guys really are pretty paranoid. If the Celica vert can't handle boost... then it shouldn't even be on the road. The chassi is NOT gonna flex outta control or anything like that, if that's what you're reffering to. Sure, it flexes a bit more compared to a Hatch or a Coupe, but it's nothing that will somehow make the car dangerously unstable because of the added torque/power of boost...
And... DG Performance has a 3SGTE vert I believe... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
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Sep 12, 2004 - 11:00 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
No one said it was going to be dangerous. The question is will it lose ridgity over time. For my sake, I hope you are right Kwanza and there will be no problems.
-------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 12, 2004 - 11:03 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
After waiting about 80 days, I am picking up my 3sgte swapped convertible Friday. I believe I am the only one that regularly posts on this site that has (will have) a boosted convertible. DG has a hatch. There are two 3sgte powered 5th gen that members of celica.net own. One has a 4 pt roll cage though. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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Sep 12, 2004 - 11:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 26, '04 From St. Cloud, Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Jgreening, and everyone else thanks for all the inputs and advice.
Jgreening let me know how you like the boosted convertable and how it feels when u have it. Thanks in advance. |
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Sep 12, 2004 - 11:39 PM
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 Enthusiast Joined Aug 20, '03 From Annapolis, Md Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
There should not be a problem. Any car that is made as a vert should be able to handle any good amount of power... There body is made dif then norm. and should, Is I would say at least handle around 300hp
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Sep 13, 2004 - 12:21 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 26, '04 From St. Cloud, Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
wow if you say they can handle around 300HP then i guess i don't have anything to worry about. I'm only planning on running around 8-10 PSI which I think would be around 200-220 HP.
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Sep 13, 2004 - 2:19 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Nov 4, '02 From Hecho en la Republica Dominicana/Living in NJ Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
people the vert have reinforced frames.. which means they are a lot stronger then coupes and hatches...so go boost away.. and if your still scared.. drop in a roll cage and engine dampners.. and stronger motor mounts..
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Sep 13, 2004 - 2:35 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 2, '02 From Portland, Oregon Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
What Gen motor are you planning on swapping? Is that at the crank or to the wheels? |
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Sep 13, 2004 - 9:57 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 8, '04 From LA Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Sorry Mac, but even with the reinforced frame, we're still worse off than a coupe or a hatch. As for that 300 hp comment.. I wouldn't trust it. |
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Sep 13, 2004 - 9:14 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Aug 26, '04 From St. Cloud, Minnesota Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I'm not planning on swapping a motor. I have a 5sfe with 74800miles on it. I was planning on doing a custom turbo. Running around maybe 5PSI on daily and 8-10PSI on random races with some friends of mine. Maybe ungradeing the pistons and rods. |
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Sep 14, 2004 - 8:24 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 3, '04 From pittsburgh Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
DG has a gt hatchback not a vert
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Sep 14, 2004 - 8:49 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
There is an echo in here. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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