headers, stock or not? Options

[maikl]

i have my stock heaters 4-2-1 and i want to buy some aftermarket heaters but i want a 4-1 but a friend told that he found me hks heaters 4-2-1 and now my question is..... is it worth it to buy the hks or is better to leave it as it is?????????

[Benevolence]

heaters? your car ain't warming you up fast enough?

[94blackst]

I think that he means headers.

[ashleyzredcelica]

QUOTE (94blackst @ Mar 8, 2003 - 10:03 PM)

I think that he means headers.

LMAO...heaters and headers sure are easy to get confused...lol

[Coomer]

I just changed the thread title for you, so everyone isn't thrown off.

[1bwilson]

I would go with a 4-2-1 if I were you. From what I have been told 4-1 is best for a turbo and 4-2-1 is best for N/A. I think it has something to do with your exhaust flowing more freely and what not. You will get a mild power increase in your mid RPM range. Not alot but enough to tell. What engine do you have? I am assumeing the 7afe. If so you can get a HP racing header for the camery and fit it for cheaper than the HKS I'm sure.

-Bryan-

[Neipas09]

QUOTE (Benevolence @ Mar 8, 2003 - 4:57 PM)

heaters? your car ain't warming you up fast enough?

Ha ha ha!
Better get that shiit fixed since summer is comin up.

[maikl]

ok i make a litle mistake, you know i am not from england or america etc, i am from cyprus so my english are not that good..... you think you can speak cypriot as good as i do??????? anyway, you didn't answer my question

[hiflytsi]

I'm sorry, but this is a little off, and I am sure some of us would like to know, but where exactly is Cyprus?

[ghostdog]

QUOTE (hiflytsi @ Mar 9, 2003 - 9:51 AM)

I'm sorry, but this is a little off, and I am sure some of us would like to know, but where exactly is Cyprus?

Cyprus is a relatively small island in the north-east corner of the Mediterranean sea, under Turkey. I believe posession of the island is shared between Greece and Turkey... I could be wrong though, this is all off the top of my head.

... and you guys really shouldn't make light of maikl's english. Honestly, its a real bish to have to speak/write in a language you are unfamiliar with and he is trying his best.

Also, I believe 1bwilson's reply is valid since his engine is N/A. However it should be noted that his engine is 4th Gen 3SGE w/ vvti not a lowly 7AFE.

[maikl]

you are correct about cyprus and thank's for the understanding.....

[95STCelica]

dude i am like so proud of you, i am in French IV Honors, and i still can barely put a sentence together...god forbig i went to another country

[jumpinccv]

yeah..i was in spanish two years and really sucked at it..more power to ya to make the effort to learn english..and your english is good at that. Sorry though i cant help ya with the answer..

sorry double post....didnt mean too

This post has been edited by jumpinccv: Mar 9, 2003 - 9:04 PM

[FallenHero]

From what I've read, 4-1 is better. This is why: With 4-2-1 there are more sharp bends in the tube. You want the least amout. The more bends you have, the more friction and restriction on the gas trying to leave the engine. On a NA engine though, you really won't be able to tell a difference. That's why (money) people with NA's get 4-2-1.

[Neipas09]

Don't most computers have a language translator so it automatically converts english to whatever your language setting is? Also there is altavista.com's translate page.

[boosted_K2]

QUOTE (jumpinccv @ Mar 9, 2003 - 9:03 PM)

yeah..i was in spanish two years and really sucked at it..more power to ya to make the effort to learn english..and your english is good at that. Sorry though i cant help ya with the answer.. sorry double post....didnt mean too

school foreign language classes dont teach you $H!T, really the only 2 ways to learn is get a fluient friend to spend like every day for 2 months where all you 2 do is speak in that language, or go to the country.

[jumpinccv]

QUOTE (K2_Celica @ Mar 9, 2003 - 9:49 PM)

school foreign language classes dont teach you $H!T,

True that!

Those translators are really bad. I tried to do homework for that spanish class and it was a really bad translation.

[Neipas09]

I don't think spanish teachers even know how to speak the language. They just make up words as they go.

[Coomer]

QUOTE (Neipas09 @ Mar 9, 2003 - 10:51 PM)

I don't think spanish teachers even know how to speak the language. They just make up words as they go.

I don't think my spanish teacher even knew english. I had her for my third year of spanish, and she never ever spoke in english.

[Neipas09]

Sounds like she needs to get deported

[west_minist]

Craps talk.

A 4-2-1 is good for all rounded driving. Street friendly for stop and go traffic

The 4-1 is for all out driving. Track, racing.

Also, to make full use of the header, you must tuning your vehicle properly to full get the result out of the header.

Really takes effect with large modifications.

This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 10, 2003 - 7:24 PM

[maikl]

this is the reason i send my pm to you..... because you know everything about celica engines!

[ashleyzredcelica]

QUOTE (95STCelica @ Mar 9, 2003 - 3:19 PM)

dude i am like so proud of you, i am in French IV Honors, and i still can barely put a sentence together...god forbig i went to another country

werd...i went to europe last summer and tried ordering a soda and got fish...AND i'm in my 4th year of FRENCH!!!! It was pretty friggin funny... more power to you for understanding our weird English!

[west_minist]

QUOTE (maikl @ Mar 10, 2003 - 6:54 AM)

this is the reason i send my pm to you..... because you know everything about celica engines!

No prob. I just hate to seem simply questions turn into junk.

You come to a thread look and hoping to find what you want.

You found the thread, but you have to search through garbage before you find anything.

It should be a way that when you create a thread, you should have control who add crap to it.

You have a very nice engine there. To do very little stuff and the engine turns on you. It will bite you

Try to take good care of it.

If possible, either add a very small turbo w/ forge pistons and a nice aftermarket computer.

You would be very surprise how that little puppy behaves.

For further reading (not finish yet since I have started a new IT job and haven't had time to communicate with my mechanic on the find details), take a look at my thread below. It is fairly long due to some crap which is occuring here, but either way, you will find the whole thread very nice.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=ST&f=4&t=662

I lost my BZ Wagon (use a 4AGE 20V Black TOP, one of the fastest in the island at the time) in an accident.

I have a 1996 Subaru 1800GL Automatic w MSD, Nology wires, A full $500 US customise exhaust system (cost went over to keep noise down) using a Magnaflow 2" exhuast with a 4" tip. and fully tune w/ Racing Octane boost Fuel additive always present.

Everyday, some ask me if it has in a WRX engine.

My answer is always no. "It doesn't sounds like a subaru", "does it have cams", "what have you done"

The car is just amazing. I have All Toyo Proxes RA1's on the car.

Everyday it just impresses my. I would love to change it to a manual and increase compression to 10:0 like the GT Model. But money warrants not to do so.

I want to get a new car later this year. I might just decide to done with this foolishness I buy a little 1500C car and done.

You get up on morning and here the exhaust sound, you here the engine tuning through its glory. You read every single magazine and talk part in performance chats. You go to sleep thinking on how to make the car a little faster.

Well, enough have been said.

Take care maikl and you could alway drop me an email at here or at 6gcelica@cariaccess.com

This post has been edited by west_minist: Mar 10, 2003 - 7:43 PM

[Neipas09]

Wow that was hella long.
West_Minist, calm down on all the double spaces dood!

[west_minist]

[FallenHero]

QUOTE (Neipas09 @ Mar 11, 2003 - 5:07 PM)

Wow that was hella long. West_Minist, calm down on all the double spaces dood!

I agree