umm i put natasha on a diet, handling and overall performance Options

[shadycrew31]

hello all you 6gcer's! just like the title says i put here on a diet. she lost a good 400 pounds!!! has anyone ever done this i dunno let me know what you think thanks! im takin it on a road course tonight i will let ya'll kno whow it does.
oh yea one more thnig how illeagal is this. i live in so cal near la??.My Webpage
-dc

[recneps]

400 pounds what did you do take the engine out?

[DamDirtyApes]

yeah hes proberly just pushing it now... serously what the hell did u take out, thats a lot of weight

[Ale_lock]

Maybe he's 400lbs & now drives the car through a R/C instead of being in it?!

This post has been edited by Meonspeed: Sep 26, 2004 - 9:26 PM

[shadycrew31]

everything dude. everyyything. but just now it was like 250 pounds after i weighed it just now. the other weight redution was losing panels on the undercarige, light weight headers, light weight rotors, and removing the intake i put a long piece of pvc to the front right high beam, springs were lighter to. lighter wheels.... everything bro...

[Akimbo]

Jeez. Spare. Glass. Interior panels, all seats but driver...lol. I wonder what he took out.

[Andason]

why do people do this?

[NEVERSTOP]

400lbs isnt all that much.. granted I am also wondering what all you took out but if you know how to lighten a car you can trim a alot of exess off it.... hell gutting the interior will get you alot of weight off. and seeing as how his celica is an AutoX car hes prolly only got one.. or maybe two seats left in it

[Digndoug]

The engine dosnt even come close to that.. unless, you replace hald your stuff with carbon fiber.. or somthin...

[shadycrew31]

to answer everyone. why i do this cause i need better handling, and trust me it helps. toyota made alot of heavy stuff in there cars. it took about 3 hours for the interior. and the rest was over time. im gonna wiegh it at the track but we will see. power to weight ratio is awesome now. i mean its an st (slow tech) so yea it helps.
but look at the pics i know there not clear but you can kind of see.

[Andason]

[FallenHero]

generally you Could say 400lbs is 30 usable hp. (as in hp to weight) So, in one frame of thought the car has about 120 hp at the wheels now. I don't think he was Really able to cut 400lbs, but hey, brake out the torch and then we'll talk!

Jon

[Digndoug]

do you have an exact list of what you removed and swaped out, also any pics... If this is somehow possible I would love to loose that much wieght in my car.. but wieght does make a big dif.. Like I can tell the dif when my subs arnt in my car , but then again thats prolly more the 100 lbs..

[tim86]

yea i could tell a huge diff when i had my subs out of my car... handled a lot better and a tad bit quicker maybe

[DamDirtyApes]

[shadycrew31]

i need a better camera. but when i posted i left my webpage its my yahoo photo binder thing. i mean like i said the interior is about 250 pounds. i just drove it wow it was a different beast. the rest of the weight reduction was bs parts that toyota put on there for fun i guess. like the whole intake system even the resivor (inside the fender) i took all that out that was a good amount of weight. an exact list would take to long but i can start it if you really want it. i got basiaclly a 6gc sitting in my apartment it kinda sucks but oh well. and andesen yes in a stright line you prolly could take me but im down for some curves if you are .

[shadycrew31]

oh one more thing... does anyone know about the legality issues with having nothing in your car?. if i get in a wreck life will suck, but any thing else i could get busted for ??

[Digndoug]

I was asking about pics, cause your web site is not working for me..

[funnyboy117]

As long as you pass emissions, didn't cut the firewall, and didn't take out any other safety features (airbags, seatbelts) there shouldn't be any major problem...but that's just off the top of my head so don't trust my word.

[shadycrew31]

thanks i got the hook, so emisions isnt a thing. but umm what if there is no seatbelts but theres no seats either. does that count cause when i say gutted i mean gutted.

[Ale_lock]

Just curious, how exactly you intend to survive a accident if you happen to get into one in the gutted celica?!

edit: Page 2 NOT pwned. It got old for me...

This post has been edited by Meonspeed: Sep 28, 2004 - 5:42 AM

[slipgun]

... did you take out the front support bar or something?

[zipstrips]

theres tons of things to remove and ways to remove weight... i dont think its against the law at al. i know a few people that pretty much drive a shell as a DD and have never had a problem... the cops assume its stolen all the time thou...

[Coomer]

You should post some pics on PhotoBucket.com or something so we can see them. Does your car have a dash or anything?

[shadycrew31]

yea i had a cop staring at it. they were filiming a comercial last night so they had the place lit up with like thousands of lights. so i roll up to the stop light, the cop is right there just chillin. i got my techno goin, nothing at all inside the car. but my seat. then he peeks up front to see a airfilter/headlight. it was funny... actually in our cars there is nothing to protect you from an accident, the only thing is these lil 2oz plastic things, oh yea theres to huge metal pices that support the middle of the shell. i started taking them off and thought now im just asking for it.

[Coomer]

Wait, so you took out 400 lbs., but left your stereo and stuff in? Which of those support beams did to cut to begin to take them off? I know that removing those is not only suicidal, but also highly illegal.

[Digndoug]

after he sent me some pics to my e-mail, It looks as though, he just pulled out all the interior nice-ness.. Like plastic trim, rear seats passenger seat, an carpet.. door panles .. Im still not sure if that would even go over 100 lbs, but its your cr.. I think I would only do that If it was a race car or somthing... an def not With an AUTO...

[Defgeph]

[Digndoug]

Im posting these pics for you, if you have a problem please let me know, and i will remoce them,

[Defgeph]

Damn he missed plenty of stuff to take out !

he still has the center dash peice in, the clock, the glove box all the vents, plastic piece under the gauges(where the ignition is), plastic on the gauges, that sticker on the window could go too, the passanger airbag, kick panel above his feet, the lifts for the hatch, power window motors could go as well, only thing that should be on the floor is the shifter, the piece around the glove box can go too.


please remove everything listed above

[Hanyo]

removing the air bags and dash r illegal.. other then that its all up to you...

[shadycrew31]

i didnt take out the center console casue of air bags. and there is random objects in the engine bay you can take out. if someone can help me with the air bag part that would be cool. and i need the windows cause im in cali ,and i have no ac... the piece around the glove box is connected to the airbag i need to remove the airbag sensor but im scared. i still need this as a daily driver ya know. but i took off another minute of my track time. im now at 3.00 minutes flat this isnt a regular track. i mean like the canyons in cali track. oh and i drive my auto like a manual it sems to run fine. and the pics are fine thanks. but theres more that came out since those pics.

This post has been edited by shadycrew31: Sep 28, 2004 - 8:45 PM

[GTAlmond]

Its good looking.

Remove all the glass and wear goggles and a helmet.

Did you say you already got a Fiberglass hood?

Bore you block out, put in aluminum forged pistons, piston arms, aluminum heads. that'll get a little bit of weight.

Remove the bumper, but leave the cover on.
Remove all emblems.
Remove your window regulator and lock your windows in the up position.
Remove your rear windshield wiper.

Switch your driver seat with the passenger seat or find a seat that isnt powered.

Remove Power Steering
Remove your gas shocks.
Remove your brake rotors and calipers.
Oh yea, remove the stereo, speakers, wiring, ect.

Yeah, thats it.
some of them are serious, others are not.

Have fun.

Gtalmond

[Consynx]

daily driver = gutted - False.

hope u'r friends like riding in a nice comfy nothing

[Mike]

Just get a goddamn motorcycle

[Kwanza26]

400 pounds is a lot. My AE86 is totally gutted with JDM bumpers and it only lost about 200 pounds (most of that with the JDM bumpers weighing less than 1/2 of the USDM ones)... down to just under 2000 pounds with 1/2 tank of gas.

Did you happen to simply subtract the weight of the old stuff without adding in the weight of the new "lighter" equipment? Happens alot when people do weight reduction...

Anyways... unless this is gonna your project car and you're gonna go all out race... I think you're crazy. A nice comfortable driver is much better than a weekend racecar. Tis my love affair with my Celica.

[shadycrew31]

well yea the 400 pounds is a total loss like over the whole shell. lighter parts in the whole car. in terms of comfort i love it... my girlfriend is in colorado and isnt coming out here for months. so i just race it in the canyons all night its great. and theres no way in hell im goin to bring a passenger into the canyons with me.

[Uppitycracker]

ewwwww your car is an auto! put all that stuff back in! Buy an old corolla or something and gut it, make sure its 5speed too!

[SlowCelica94]

The douche is here to give his 2 cents.

Light weight is great idea. And if you can bare the eye sore, more power to you. Do I think he lost 400lbs? more like 100-150lbs.

I'll back up Anderson, my GT will beat you too. Twisties? Bring it. You have sprint springs as far as I can see. Mine are Tom's and I ride on Eagle F1 gs-d3's, some of the best tires on the market. You pick your posion.

Also, do you know what your aftermarket rotors and wheels weigh?

Airbags are easy to pull out. And lightweight steering wheel isn't a bad idea. When I put my sparco in, i was pretty surprised. THe stock has to be almost double the weight of the sparco. IM me sometime, I'll walk you through removing your airbags. Raziel215

[shadycrew31]

yes my car is an auto. and i lose about 10 hp becasue of it. but its all gained back to due driving skill. i dont drive in straight lines and i shift my auto perfectly fine. i find it easier espeacially when driving cross country.

[Kwanza26]

[shadycrew31]

i know i already took out the ac system, and most of the bs plastic stuff. but the 7a auto tranny i dunno there somthing about it its a liltte beast.

[Sev408]

and it also weighs alot. theres a big difference between the weight of a manual and auto trans.


and last time i check plastic doesnt weigh anything. maybe 100 pounds was lost but i doubt anymore then that. and most of the weight is comming from your spare tire.


also if you disconnect your hazards button then your turnsignals wont work

This post has been edited by Sev408: Oct 6, 2004 - 9:46 PM

[Digndoug]

haha not to bust your balls like everyone else, But I just striped the back of my car, including spare, and weighed them nad only got about 25 lbs .. that was manly the spare .. Theres no reason to loose anything, def in an auto. Also unless the auto was designed to auto/sport ****, theres not mush of a reason, In my bimmer there was a dif, I couldd switch it, and the ecu let it rev another 1500 , but that was my bimmer, not a celi..

by the way, I would prolly spank you with my car, and the interior and subs in it.

This post has been edited by Digndoug: Oct 6, 2004 - 9:52 PM

[shadycrew31]

hahah the spare only weighs 15 pounds. umm yea im not lookin to race. and if you did remove everything ...that means all the seats except yours, and all plastic, door pannels, a/c system, all the sound proofing mats underneath the carpet, the 2 rear speakes, the celling, all the mud guards and other palstics on the extieor, got after market rims weighing in at 14 pounds each including the tire, buy aftermarket headers out of thinner steel replacing the original cast ones.,and any other spare wires and electrical stuff. you will achive 400 pounds. and no you wont smoke me. i beat st's all the time by at least 3 car lengths. and i have an st.
so there you have it. i wil get everyone a very detailed list including weight next month.

[Kwanza26]

[shadycrew31]

hmm well since i beat my friend 3 times by 3 car lengths each time i guess that doesnt say much. and since i actually did get a header made of thinner steel well that doesnt say much either. every little ounce counts all the wires and the spare thats right!!! i have no idea what tires your buying but they dont weigh even close to 14 pounds. maybe you should study a little bit more before you call someone out. i know your going off your information which is great casue you have alot of it. you should really think before you say someone is blowing smoke. espeacially me cause i only speak the truth. theres no point in lying. but were both very opinionated. which is great. and lets just leave it at that. casue were just butting heads. and id rather keep this sight a helpful friendly site. not a bashing and im right your wrong.

[Kwanza26]

[shadycrew31]

so i guess we wil have to go on then. as fo rme beating st's i did it before i gutted my interior, and before i put my headers, on and before i got my exhaust. i never race in a striahgt line. and i will beat you in a track!!. i used to race shifter carts. as for your knowledge, like i said before you have alot of it and i respect that. and i would prefer if you didnt insult my skills. it makes you look like a weaker man. once again i never said my celi was an ass kicker. i just said i could beat most st's because of my mods and driving capability. so thank you.....i tried to end this feud but you had to continue. oh one more thing, how do you know for a fact that i will not come close to beating an other st's on this board. have you ever seen me drive ???

[Ryu3x16]

oh great another Kwanza vs another member again..
..um... carry on

[SlowCelica94]

Shady allow me to tell you something. Don't aruge with Kwanza. He probably the most knowledgable person this board. He's worked around racing for many years and I've never seen him show any signs of not knowing what he's talking about. Also, he kinda ran a 16.1 in his ST (w/ slicks tho). Sh!t, my best is 16.5 in my GT. And look at my mods.

Bottom line, a lot of the stuff you've done won't help. And driver skill doesn't help much when you have an auto. If you have a manual, you could downshift into turns, launch, rev-match, ect. I still say I and Kwanza could easily own you. Drag or twisties. You just have springs. It's not that big of a deal

[trdevelopment]

[shadycrew31]

yes it does take skill even with an auto. let me show you how..... so your flyin down the stretch doin about 70. theres a 25 mph turn coming up so you pop it into gear 2 (only have 3 with o/d). you tap brakes once wait for the tranny to kick in and slow you down. so now your going into the 25 mph turn at 60, you cut the wheel and accelerrate in the apex, becasue your in gear 2 you have more tourque. as your coming out of the turn you shift it back to drive. and punch it. that my friend requires skill. cause if you dont do that you fly off the hill and die.

[operative]

If you just drop your car by one Inch you can make that turn at 70MPH without doing anything. No skills required, just balls.
You would also need the stablizer bar, which ST dont have. You should get one, just add about 4 lbs.

[shadycrew31]

i did drop my car. and i do have strut bars. but i want ot get sway bars i dunno how much they will help though?? but you need all wheel drive to take the 25's at 70. at least on my "track" a.k.a. cali canyon's.

[SlowCelica94]

you're suppose to acclerate coming outta the turn. Let your momentum take you the first half thro

[Sev408]

dude after reading all your retarded posts and how it proves you know nothing sell the celica and buy a civic. you and the rest of the dumbasses then can dream of turning your cars into RWD vehicles that with no interior droped 700 lbs.

[shadycrew31]

i never said i dropped 700 pounds. and it is posible to turn it into a rwd. i do not see how im retarted please enlighten me.

[Sev408]

your another dreamer son. ill leave it at that, i think most of us are sick of reading the I can make my car rwd posts.

[shadycrew31]

so just cause i wanna turn my car into rwd im a dumb ass?? is that it.... well it will be rwd trust me. if they can turn a pinto in to a lambo my celi can go rwd.

[ghostdog]

I think we should just leave this topic at this. no use arguing any further, people will just get offended. and shadycrew31, I look forward to hearing about your swap in the future. but until then its all talk, thats the bottom line.

[shadycrew31]

thanks i agree. i love that sig its awesome

[trdevelopment]

yeh i also agree with ghost dog

This post has been edited by trdevelopment: Oct 7, 2004 - 6:27 PM

[Kwanza26]

Geez...