So Bush...where are the WMD's?, friggin idiot... Options

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Bush and all his supporters, im sorry to say it are retarded. He has got to be the dumbest president on earth. dumb f* cker.

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.ad...112005909990004



WASHINGTON (Jan. 12) - The search for weapons of mass destruction in Iraq has quietly concluded without any evidence of the banned weapons that President Bush cited as justification for going to war, the White House said Wednesday.

The Iraq Survey Group, made up of some 1,200 military and intelligence specialists and support staff, spent nearly two years searching military installations, factories and laboratories whose equipment and products might be converted quickly to making weapons.

White House press secretary Scott McClellan said there no longer is an active search for weapons. ''There may be a couple, a few people, that are focused on that'' but that it has largely concluded, he said.

''If they have any reports of (weapons of mass destruction) obviously they'll continue to follow up on those reports,'' McClellan said. ''A lot of their mission is focused elsewhere now.''

Chief U.S. weapons hunter Charles Duelfer is to deliver his final report on the search next month. ''It's not going to fundamentally alter the findings of his earlier report,'' McClellan said, referring to preliminary findings from last September. Duelfer reported then that Saddam Hussein not only had no weapons of mass destruction and had not made any since 1991, but that he had no capability of making any either. Bush unapologetically defended his decision to invade Iraq.

Bush has appointed a panel to investigate why the intelligence about Iraq's weapons was wrong.


01-12-05 1157EST



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[rjbibeau]

whole lot better than what kerry would do... kerry is a tard. it's ike finding a needle in a haystack. give em some credit. what else better would our money go for....wellfare ppssshhh that's a joke.

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[Sh0gunkid8721]

whole lot better than what kerry would do... kerry is a tard. it's ike finding a needle in a haystack. give em some credit. what else better would our money go for....wellfare ppssshhh that's a joke.
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great...thousands of people died for no reason, while a more dangerous Bin Laden is still out there.

[Pali_playa]

whole lot better than what kerry would do... kerry is a tard. it's ike finding a needle in a haystack. give em some credit. what else better would our money go for....wellfare ppssshhh that's a joke.
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how about education? or into our economy? or even better try to slim down our 18 billion dollar deficit...

[rjbibeau]

if noone takes action it could get a lot worse man. you people aren't even appresciative for what America is today. we could be over taken by who anyone if America takes no action into solving this fricken problem. you might be lead by a communist. who knows man but something has to be done about it. i've got friends over there right now so ya i'm not to fond of the war either but something has to be done to stop this problem into arising into even more of a serious problem.

[Consynx]

we don't have a deficit!
we can't POSSIBLY have one, because if we did
i dont think we'd be considered "stingy" in ANY circumstance.

i hate politics, and i hate everyone...but John

[Sh0gunkid8721]

if noone takes action it could get a lot worse man. you people aren't even appresciative for what America is today. we could be over taken by who anyone if America takes no action into solving this fricken problem. you might be lead by a communist. who knows man but something has to be done about it. i've got friends over there right now so ya i'm not to fond of the war either but something has to be done to stop this problem into arising into even more of a serious problem.
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sadaam wasnt even a threat !!! bush doesnt care about America. He just wanted to finish what his father couldnt.

Before Hussein i would put Bin Laden and the dictator of North Korea as bigger threats. What are we doing about North Korea? They're 10 times a bigger threat than Iraq ever was.

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Jan 12, 2005 - 3:09 PM

[BlackCelicaGT94]

Well its kinda weird to me how i believe last week he was gonna ask for XXX billion dollars for this war but yet he will only give 35 million dollars to the people of a natural disaster. And it took him what? 5 days to come out and speak about the disaster? I have recently been talking to someone who went to iraq and is done with his 4 years and hes told me first hand how bush is a retard and some of the things we dont hear about. I dont think Kerry would have been the BEST president but given the choice i think he was the better canidate


BRING CLINTON BACK!

like ive said before we are all 24,000 dollars in debt to the US and if our parents are over 40 then we have to take on their 24,000 too! lucky me! thanks BUSH!

This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Jan 12, 2005 - 3:48 PM

[vangSTa_celica]

BRING CLINTON BACK!

Agreed. Bush and Kerry are both nuts. Clinton was such a ladies man too.

[Mr_E]

Needle in a haystack? How about alleged nuclear/biological plant in a featureless desert. With spy satallites to help.

you people aren't even appresciative for what America is today. we could be over taken by who anyone if America takes no action into solving this fricken problem.

There's hope yet.

<riiiing>
-Hello Queenie. Fancy invading the colonies again?

Really don't see that one happening.

[dstrbcelica]

BRING CLINTON BACK!

Agreed. Bush and Kerry are both nuts. Clinton was such a ladies man too.
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*cough* no sh*t

-dstrb

[Supersprynt]

if noone takes action it could get a lot worse man. you people aren't even appresciative for what America is today. we could be over taken by who anyone if America takes no action into solving this fricken problem. you might be lead by a communist. who knows man but something has to be done about it. i've got friends over there right now so ya i'm not to fond of the war either but something has to be done to stop this problem into arising into even more of a serious problem.
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We took action in Afghanistan, nobody is saying that was wrong, nobody is saying that shouldnt have been done. What Bush did was take advantage of the situation and going in on Hussein "while we're over there." It took focus off the failure in Afghanistan and ends up being an even bigger failure.

Secondly, we're not going to be taken over. This is a ludicrous statement. First we're the most powerful nation hands down, theres nobody going to come in and invade us. If we stayed neutral and outta **** that doesnt concern us then perhaps we'd be hated a little less. However we stay neutral and countries bitch and moan bout their own problems. Its a double edged sword and being the most powerful nation sometimes you gotta take matters into your own hands. No communist is going to come in here and take over, theres going to be no coup d'tea (sp).

Lastly, whats the problem your talking about? Terrorism? Yeah its at an alltime high and you think anything we did the last 5 yrs has done anything but make it worse? I'm happy Hussein is outta power, but theres no evidence he was funding terrorists, theres no evidence of any weapons, no evidence of anything but a crappy dictatorship. Now how long are we going to be stuck cleaning up our own mess in Iraq spending billions of dollars on re-building a country we destroyed instead of spending billions maybe helping the homeless or helping the starving people or how bout spitting up a lil more than 35 million (after 12 million was laughed at). Think about it 35million is horsesh!t compared to the billions in damage.

So now we have a failure in Iraq, failure in Afghanistan, more people hating us than ever, a lunatic still running around in Afghanistan, a lunatic with NUKES in North Korea who told is straight out NO im not going to stop playing with them.

Sorry to think that Bush has his priorities screwed up. I think these are the darkest days of American history and it doesnt look like its going to get better anytime soon. George W. Bush makes me sick.

[Pali_playa]

Needle in a haystack? How about alleged nuclear/biological plant in a featureless desert. With spy satallites to help.

you people aren't even appresciative for what America is today. we could be over taken by who anyone if America takes no action into solving this fricken problem.

There's hope yet.

<riiiing>
-Hello Queenie. Fancy invading the colonies again?

Really don't see that one happening.
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ahahahaha

[chucho]

you know how nice it was that this site was back to cars and stupid stuff after the election was over....I sure like the calmer atmosphere

[BlackCelicaGT94]

can i get some props on not being the one to post about politics initially?


YAY!

[chucho]

can i get some props on not being the one to post about politics initially?


YAY!
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*pats back*

[Uppitycracker]

like ive said before we are all 24,000 dollars in debt to the US and if our parents are over 40 then we have to take on their 24,000 too! lucky me! thanks BUSH!
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Move to Canada where literally half of all the money you make goes to the government. We have better school systems, health care and other programs, but it definately makes things harder to get ahead.

[FallenHero]

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sadaam wasnt even a threat !!!
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I love you guys, but that is borderline ignorant

[Defgeph]

super, you should run for a place in congress.

Bush blows

[Sh0gunkid8721]

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sadaam wasnt even a threat !!!
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I love you guys, but that is borderline ignorant
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how was sadaam a HUGE threat? what has he done recently thats displayed a huge threat to us? Bush just added fuel to the fire when he went to war with Iraq for no reason in particular. Sadaam at the time shouldve been the LAST thing on his mind at the time, and now its gonna bite us in the a** in the future. Our economy is worth sh** right now. If your callin me ignorant for voicing my opinions, then i really dont give a sh*t what you say cuz Bush just makes me wanna throw up. I would rather have Don King as our friggin president if it was possible to elect him into office. He has a one track mind and we'll be feelin the effects in a couple years.

[Supersprynt]

You guys are bouncing from one extreme to another. Saddam was always a threat, but to whom, and how much is the question.

Edit: About the atmosphere of the site: no offense thats BS cuz this is a single thread if you dont wanna talk bout it dont come in and read this is an choice to be in here not a requirement. If you ignore the thread then nothing changes. There are alot of ppl who ignore these threads and thats all well and good but this is off topic and politics are a huge part of life. You cant get away from them but in here u can ignore them its easy.

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[Sh0gunkid8721]

You guys are bouncing from one extreme to another. Saddam was always a threat, but to whom, and how much is the question.
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notice my emphasis on the word "HUGE". Bin Laden is a MAJOR problem. and so is North Korea. In my opinion, they're a MUCH larger problem than Sadaam right now who has practically nothing. What has Sadaam done while Clinton was in office for 8 yrs? I havent even heard his name once i dont think.

[Consynx]

can i get some props on not being the one to post about politics initially?


YAY!
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*pats back*
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*rubs back*

muahaha...atempting a hijack like _ _ _ _ _

[Hanyo]

I don't want to add fuel to the flames here. So I'm not going to blame any one. I just feel that American's feel like they have the responcibility to be the worlds police. Which I completely disagree with, I feel we should not be the only who intervene. Like in the Iraq war, USA forces where the majority of the troups in action. Its scary how our intellegence forces did not detect how korea was making nuclear weapons, where as our intellegence detected imaginary weapons in Iraq. Pretty much, Bush accidently opened a can of worms, no one is happy about it, and its not gonna get better untill he focuses, get objectives straight ,and work hard to get us out of it. We are just gonna have to tough it out, and worry about korea later.

[SlowCelica94]

GOSH! Freakin Idiot!

[Mynzeyes]

we don't have a deficit!
we can't POSSIBLY have one, because if we did
i dont think we'd be considered "stingy" in ANY circumstance.

i hate politics, and i hate everyone...but John
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whoa. sweet. <3.

i just don't even care anymore about politics or anything, because the world is about to end. famine, locus, tsunamis, mudslides, earthquakes, diseases, etc. everyone should just enjoy the last few hours we have. .

[carb0n_f1b3r]

WOW.....im glad that we have all of these really intelligent arguments to choose from....regurgitate only what you've told to....thats right... spoon by spoon dear... ppl that have no real concept of what they are discussing generally tend to have the strongest opinions......run on emotion.....follow......remember, you can't be on both sides......choose.....good.....now go tell others your "truth"...kill for it.....see doesnt that feel good??....no, there is no need prove your claims.....just love them....and they will be true!!

if someone can not argue on an intellectual basis about a complex subject then i think they should stick to what thier little minds can handle....sports.....tv.......who is f*cking who's baby's mama.......... my god

[Consynx]

^
i think he called you stupid

[Akimbo]

GOSH! Freakin Idiot!
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Whatever I FEEL LIKE DOING

[FallenHero]

WOW.....im glad that we have all of these really intelligent arguments to choose from....regurgitate only what you've told to....thats right... spoon by spoon dear... ppl that have no real concept of what they are discussing generally tend to  have the strongest opinions......run on emotion.....follow......remember, you can't be on both sides......choose.....good.....now go tell others your "truth"...kill for it.....see doesnt that feel good??....no, there is no need prove your claims.....just love them....and they will be true!!

if someone can not argue on an intellectual basis about a complex subject then i think they should stick to what thier little minds can handle....sports.....tv.......who is f*cking who's baby's mama.......... my god
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lol.

And my previous post was made with the thought that you said that he was no threat at all. Lets face it gang... if the guy could have hit us, he would have. He also financed terrorism (or so i have heard) to a great degree.

[Mynzeyes]

^
i think he called you stupid
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called ME stupid? i hope not...because i offered nothing to the arguements which he's talking about. .

-John-

[BlackCelicaGT94]

WOW.....im glad that we have all of these really intelligent arguments to choose from....regurgitate only what you've told to....thats right... spoon by spoon dear... ppl that have no real concept of what they are discussing generally tend to  have the strongest opinions......run on emotion.....follow......remember, you can't be on both sides......choose.....good.....now go tell others your "truth"...kill for it.....see doesnt that feel good??....no, there is no need prove your claims.....just love them....and they will be true!!

if someone can not argue on an intellectual basis about a complex subject then i think they should stick to what thier little minds can handle....sports.....tv.......who is f*cking who's baby's mama.......... my god
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haha he called us DUMB F*CKS


clever clever

[biglipzit]

WOW.....im glad that we have all of these really intelligent arguments to choose from....regurgitate only what you've told to....thats right... spoon by spoon dear... ppl that have no real concept of what they are discussing generally tend to  have the strongest opinions......run on emotion.....follow......remember, you can't be on both sides......choose.....good.....now go tell others your "truth"...kill for it.....see doesnt that feel good??....no, there is no need prove your claims.....just love them....and they will be true!!

if someone can not argue on an intellectual basis about a complex subject then i think they should stick to what thier little minds can handle....sports.....tv.......who is f*cking who's baby's mama.......... my god
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lol.

And my previous post was made with the thought that you said that he was no threat at all. Lets face it gang... if the guy could have hit us, he would have. He also financed terrorism (or so i have heard) to a great degree.
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So you have heard??? You also heard that there were weapons of mass destruction in iraq also didnt you... Did you believe that one in the same way you believe what the news tells you? This has all been a fight for oil. Who is in charge of afghanistan now?? Some vice president of some major oil company bush use to work for before he was president... A pipeline deal stopped by clinton is now back on track since then... What is happening to iraq oil now? Isnt that going almost all to america? Bush goes after pushovers. He knows he wont be able to invade north korea like he did afghanistan and iraq. He would have alot more trouble there. I can assure you that the rest of the world is against america on its actions in the middle east... There is not one arab country except israel that wishes they had a nuke with america written all over it right now. What i never understood was how come bush turned on france the way he did when they didnt support the war... So much for thanking a country for helping america win the war for independance all those centuries ago. That really was a low blow to other countries of the world.

[CheesyLobster]

Mmmm, there are about 20 topic on Bush/War/Iraq/WMD/Kerry. All of these arguements have already been made, and I'm kind of sick of it. People will not change their oppinions on this subject. What I would like to see is someone who is middle of the road and can compliment and criticize both sides. Extreme polarization in politics is the greatest evil facing this country right now.

[carb0n_f1b3r]

niether for or against the war, bush, iraq. i just hate hearing ppl babel on topics that they dont fully understand .....

and i dont attack those who do not deserve it, -J- ,but i was refering to alot of posts

[shid]

You know, i kinda feel sorry for Sadaam. He kept his nose clean after the first war; disassembled all his weapons programs to comply with what everyone wanted; etc.

Then, he refuses UN inspectors because it's a violation of his country's soveirgnty.

THEN this cowboy brings the entire US army to come and overthrow him and destroy his country.

Now, was he a bad man? Yes. Should he have been taken out 14 years ago? Hellz yes. But still- Bush must have been going: WE WILL DESTROY WMDS IN IRAQ UNLESS HE SHOWS PROOF THAT THEY ARE BEING DISMANTLED

and Sadaam was going: What is this!??! I DONT HAVE ANY TO DISMANTLE!? HELLO?? IS THIS LINE OPEN??? ANYONE!!??! NO WMDS! Here here! Inspectors! I'll let you in anywhere! There see? no we- OMG HE'S INVADING

[ghostdog]

GOSH! Freakin Idiot!
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Whatever I FEEL LIKE DOING
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TINA YOU FAT LARD come get some dinner!

and I agree with super, you are all stuck on one extreme or the other. I for one dislike bush but I applaud him for what he's been able to 'accomplish'

[Supersprynt]

WOW.....im glad that we have all of these really intelligent arguments to choose from....regurgitate only what you've told to....thats right... spoon by spoon dear... ppl that have no real concept of what they are discussing generally tend to  have the strongest opinions......run on emotion.....follow......remember, you can't be on both sides......choose.....good.....now go tell others your "truth"...kill for it.....see doesnt that feel good??....no, there is no need prove your claims.....just love them....and they will be true!!

What the hell does this actually say?

What has he accomplished?

Oh and dudes, most of you are just jealous that I been talking to babes all day online.

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[BlackCelicaGT94]

its actually dont be jealous cuz ive been chating ONLINE WITH BABES ALL DAY

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[Supersprynt]

yo, i knew i wasnt quoting it 100%, its the point.

[ghostdog]

What has he accomplished?
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assuming this was directed toward me, I say that because I think his administration has done what many of us would have considered impossible. to have 9/11 happen under your watch, raise the debt by untold billions, commit troops to (what I consider) an unjust cause, and still manage to be re-elected. he's a very talented persuader to turn such negatives into positives and for that I admire him and his administration. don't get me wrong, I still don't like the guy and I am a stonch liberal, just giving a bit of perspective to the situation

[Supersprynt]

Ah, sarcasm. I had a feeling but I wasnt sure. He got re-elected because he managed to pull every religous person from the depths of society who normally dont vote into the voting booths. If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest.

[jgreening]

If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest.

Whats your point?

[FallenHero]

If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest.
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That's every election. Face it guys, they should never have tried to sell John Kerry. they could have used almost anyone else in the party and easily beat Bush,,, but they didn't. So why did he get the nomination? I have no clue... Maybe he had the financial backing???

[CheesyLobster]

If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest.
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That's every election. Face it guys, they should never have tried to sell John Kerry. they could have used almost anyone else in the party and easily beat Bush,,, but they didn't. So why did he get the nomination? I have no clue... Maybe he had the financial backing???
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Agreed. I think that Kerry was a terrible choice as the dem. representative. Troughout history, the southern and widwest states have always supported the cannidate that better related to themself. Bush has the image of a working man who is religious and traditional, just like most of the people in the southern and midwest states.

My choice for the dem. candidate if I could have voted (im republican, and was 17) would have been Wesley Clark, or Dean (dean was a good candidate, but simply had his image destroied by that scream; shows how important image is in an election). Both of these candidates seemed to have the best intent for the counrty, where both bush and kerry, imo, did/do not.

[gas65]

Look what is running our country.

[Supersprynt]

If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest.

Whats your point?
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That theres alot more people of the faith in those areas opposed to northeast and far west. In my opinion it effects elections way to much considering it should have nothing to do with them.

And I agree, Kerry wasnt a strong candidate.

[FallenHero]

If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest.

Whats your point?
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That theres alot more people of the faith in those areas opposed to northeast and far west. In my opinion it effects elections way to much considering it should have nothing to do with them.

And I agree, Kerry wasnt a strong candidate.
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Well... it's a bit more complicated than that. People of faith tend to be a bit more conservative. Bush didn't push religion as much as his conservative nature. (Abortion is a key fact here) He didn't say 'god will smite thee' he put his opinions up as morally wrong.

It's all conservative Vs. liberal these days. the fact that most religious people are conservative really is just an afterthought.

[shid]

Actually I think the major issue here wasn't that people were religious and voted for Bush, it was that people WISHED they were religious, WISHED for those kind of values etc... it's a major social driver in america- this WISH to be religious. I think it's friggin nuts.

[SoundSlut_dotcom]

any1 ever consider the fact that iraq's WMD werent stationed in iraq? iraq is a country full of nuts willing 2 use wmd ... fk em'

[coustoe]

do people just post political post so they can yell at other people?

I understand if someone wants to discuss a political topic. which is cool, but just posting a rant so you can yell at people just gets people angry for no reason, and ruins the community

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[carb0n_f1b3r]

If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest

ok. poli sci lesson....these are the results of the election county by county. if you notice, geographically, the majority of the country is 'red'. this lends its self to dispell those who propagate the fact that "its the south"or "its the midwest" and inform those of you who regurgitate these 'facts'. ok... back to the learnedness.... some of you might wonder why? why are some small areas blue and the rest red? well my friends the easiest way to find the moral of the story in political science is money.... income .... where does it come from? how? ect ect...
if you take out your handy dandy road map of the US and compare it to the election map you will notice that many of the counties are located in and around the biggest cities. these cities are very densly populated. the majority of the funds that are used by federal social programs are in these areas. which include welfare, unemployment, ect...ect.. although its true to say that the majority of americas economy flows through the larger cities in america this is also a place of extreme poverty. travel to any inner city of a large metropolitan area at night with your khakis and new kids on the block t-shirt on if you believe me..... this strife spills over into every neighborhood of these metros and affect everyone (economically) in general the reason why vastly populated areas are the the not so high kelvin color of blue is because of the democrats social policies. dems=big government, in turn lends itself to more money for social programs .. the farther away from the city the more self sustaining life style takes over and the ppl need the government less..... before you repeat something know why this person has told you this look at thier motives? what do they stand to gain? be someone who can recognize propaganda from either side of the political spectrum........ ignorance is strength

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[carb0n_f1b3r]

do people just post political post so they can yell at other people?

I understand if someone wants to discuss a political topic. which is cool, but just posting a rant so you can yell at people just gets people angry for no reason, and ruins the community

lol i love it, conflict is progress. understandably there are those out there who cannot take debating of an issue they stand for w/o getting thier emotional panties in a wad but there are always going to be those types of ppl.... fight the urges that we all have been indoctrinated with since grade school man.. its complacency conflict and debate is healthy for a community to grow

[shid]

If you noticed which states were red, they were southern and midwest

ok. poli sci lesson....these are the results of the election county by county. if you notice, geographically, the majority of the country is 'red'. this lends its self to dispell those who propagate the fact that "its the south"or "its the midwest" and inform those of you who regurgitate these 'facts'. ok... back to the learnedness.... some of you might wonder why? why are some small areas blue and the rest red? well my friends the easiest way to find the moral of the story in political science is money.... income .... where does it come from? how? ect ect...
if you take out your handy dandy road map of the US and compare it to the election map you will notice that many of the counties are located in and around the biggest cities. these cities are very densly populated. the majority of the funds that are used by federal social programs are in these areas. which include welfare, unemployment, ect...ect.. although its true to say that the majority of americas economy flows through the larger cities in america this is also a place of extreme poverty. travel to any inner city of a large metropolitan area at night with your khakis and new kids on the block t-shirt on if you believe me..... this strife spills over into every neighborhood of these metros and affect everyone (economically) in general the reason why vastly populated areas are the the not so high kelvin color of blue is because of the democrats social policies. dems=big government, in turn lends itself to more money for social programs .. the farther away from the city the more self sustaining life style takes over and the ppl need the government less..... before you repeat something know why this person has told you this look at thier motives? what do they stand to gain? be someone who can recognize propaganda from either side of the political spectrum........ ignorance is strength
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and your ignorance is flawed, the 'red" areas benefit from our socialist programs just as much as the blue areas- do you know how much this country spends subsidizing farmers?

[Supersprynt]

You shoulda found a better map cuz thats a county map.

[BlackCelicaGT94]

[coustoe]

do people just post political post so they can yell at other people?

I understand if someone wants to discuss a political topic. which is cool, but just posting a rant so you can yell at people just gets people angry for no reason, and ruins the community

lol i love it, conflict is progress. understandably there are those out there who cannot take debating of an issue they stand for w/o getting thier emotional panties in a wad but there are always going to be those types of ppl.... fight the urges that we all have been indoctrinated with since grade school man.. its complacency conflict and debate is healthy for a community to grow
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you missed the point this isnt a discussion its a rant, the person who started this thread started it as a rant, most all the political threads on this board start off as a rant, rants are not debates and do nothing for the community, and just get people angry, im tired of people trying to rile people up just to make themselves feel good.

Tell me how the thread starter post

Bush and all his supporters, im sorry to say it are retarded. He has got to be the dumbest president on earth. dumb f* cker.

is conducive to a debate/discussion, the point is he just wanted to rant and piss people off.

This post has been edited by coustoe: Jan 14, 2005 - 3:40 PM

[carb0n_f1b3r]

and your ignorance is flawed, the 'red" areas benefit from our socialist programs just as much as the blue areas- do you know how much this country spends subsidizing farmers?

lol

well first of all i never said "farmers" because not all ppl that do not live in large cities are "farmers" actually the majority of the ppl that live outside of large cities are not "farmers"....and secondly

Main Entry: ig·no·rance
Pronunciation: 'ig-n(&-)r&n(t)s
Function: noun
: the state or fact of being ignorant


ig·no·rant
Pronunciation: 'ig-n(&-)r&nt
Function: adjective
1 a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>
2 : UNAWARE, UNINFORMED
- ig·no·rant·ly adverb
- ig·no·rant·ness noun
synonyms IGNORANT, ILLITERATE, UNLETTERED, UNTUTORED, UNLEARNED mean not having knowledge. IGNORANT may imply a general condition or it may apply to lack of knowledge or awareness of a particular thing <an ignorant fool> <ignorant of nuclear physics>. ILLITERATE applies to either an absolute or a relative inability to read and write <much of the population is still illiterate>. UNLETTERED implies ignorance of the knowledge gained by reading <an allusion meaningless to the unlettered>. UNTUTORED may imply lack of schooling in the arts and ways of civilization <strange monuments built by an untutored people>. UNLEARNED suggests ignorance of advanced subjects <poetry not for academics but for the unlearned masses>.


as for my 'ignorance' i have never known ignorance to be "flawed," logic perhaps would be the more coherent the word ... don't use a gun if you don't understand it.....

This post has been edited by carb0n_f1b3r: Jan 14, 2005 - 4:48 PM

[carb0n_f1b3r]

these are the tw0 departments of the government that have the majority of social program 's budget.....
Department of Housing and Urban Development Alphonso Jackson, Acting Secretary www.hud.gov 202–708–1112 Number of Employees: 10,600
2005 Discretionary Budget Authority: $31.3 billion Department of Health and Human Services Tommy G. Thompson, Secretary www.hhs.gov 202–619–0257 Number of Employees: 67,000 2005 Discretionary Budget Authority: $66.8 billion

on the flip side of that this department's budget is what handles "farmer subsidaries"
Department of Agriculture Ann M. Veneman, Secretary www.usda.gov 202–720–3631 Number of Employees: 109,832 2005 Discretionary Budget Authority: $19.1 billion

say what you will but do the math friend Hud has more cash flow than the ag sect.

and that map was supposed to be by county

[carb0n_f1b3r]

is conducive to a debate/discussion, the point is he just wanted to rant and piss people off.

yeah i know what your saying, coustoe, i just mean that i like to debate with those ppl with out getting mad and make em look like idiots

ed. and sorry to everybody for being a dirty post whore

This post has been edited by carb0n_f1b3r: Jan 14, 2005 - 4:04 PM

[BlackSTX]

You fail to mention that although the big cities are full of welfare and poverty, they are also where the educated people in this country go to work. Example: Chicago, New York, San Francisco, L.A. In my personal experience, the ignorant and uneducated stay in rural areas while their educated peers migrate to more populous, thriving areas. It is a well-known fact that educated people (people with college degrees) overwhelmingly vote democrat. Also, the rural south and midwest are full of poverty (e.g. the Appalachian states) which benefit from social programs but because of their self-rhighteousness voted for Bush. Drive through rural Ohio, West Virginia, Kentucky, and Tennesse and it's just as scary as driving through the slums of a big city. Oh well, they're only hurting themselves. Bush won the election on one issue and one issue only: gay marriage. Everyone would rather fight a pointless war than have to put up with that crap.