5sfTe update.., downpipe fitment & issues Options

[presure2]

hey all, figured i'd do a little update on the 5sfte project i've been working on, and whats happening.
...i got my downpipe in from berktechnology in this past wensday, and lemme tell yea, it was a SWEET deal, full 3" stainless, tig welded, with the factory o2 sensor bung and 2 more bungs for wideband o2 and egt. (the same one lagos got, i showed him it)
i was really worried about it fitting, seeing as how i couldnt even get the oil filter on with the stock elbow, nevermind this thing..lol
so, i was planning on using a oil filter relocation kit like this:

its made by Trans-dapt, is cast, and costs about 10$ for the block side, and about 12 for the filter side (im gonna make my own stainless braided lines with AN fittings.)
but, i was still worried about having room for the fittings and lines with the bungs coming out the top like that.
so, once i got the DP in, i headed off to moms to mock it up on my old engine to see how she fit.
sorry for the crappy pics, my digicam kinda sux..lol


so as you can kinda see in that 2nd pic, there really isnt much room there at all!!
needless to say the tras-dapt filter relocation adapter wont work.
this is where reseaching and asking questions helps, cause with the help of Ken Blake from the mr2 board ill get this:

a canton racing oil filter relocation adapter. its made of billet for greater strength than a cast peice, and swivles 360* so you can set the exit bungs wherever you want. best of all, it'll give me the clearance i need! WOOOT it costs 60$, which is about 50$ more than the transdapt piece, but whatever it takes to get the job done!! hahaha
im also thinking about having my exaust manifold high temp coated by finishline coatings. its supossed to be REALLY good stuff, and besides looking great, it will help keep the under hood temps down.
heres a response i got from finishline about a price quote to do my manifold.

Good Morning
If you have a Toyota, the cost for the exhaust manifold coating would be
$85.00. We coat inside and double coat on the outside. The Cermachrome -
bright and shiny - will never turn blue or gold. It will also keep at
least 50% of your exhaust temp inside the manifold so your under hood
temps will be much cooler.
We ship UPS if necessary or you can stop by our shop to drop off your
manifold.
Please give us a call if you have additional questions. 503 659-4278.
Thanks for your inquiry
Lona Jensen

im seriously consitering doing it, whats your thoughts?
any comments, sugesstions or whatever are welcome.

[x_itchy_b_x]

Im using the cheap oil relocater with the t3 anyways so i havent got it all hooked up yet. never needed it with the ct26. so far it fits fine. but my setup is totally different. so im not much help Glad to hear ur project is coming together.

[lagos]

manny, dont waste your money on any exhaust manifold coating. the gt4 hood will help keep all those manifold temps low and cool.

[macavely]

manny, dont waste your money on any exhaust manifold coating. the gt4 hood will help keep all those manifold temps low and cool.
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yea maybe in the winter.... but what is he going to do in the summer when he is pushing his car to the limits like a reat tuner does ??

and manny set up will not be a wast of money in any way... he is spending his cash on the little things most people don't bother to think about....

[Hanyo]

does the vent let rain water get into your engine bay? I'm thinking if it suddently started to rain, wont that crack your exhaust manifold?

[presure2]

Hanyo Posted Today, 08:15 AM
  does the vent let rain water get into your engine bay? I'm thinking if it suddently started to rain, wont that crack your exhaust manifold?

naa..its not really right over the manifold..
besides, ive never had any problems with the vent,..not in rain or snow..except with the last storm we had..when we got 2+feet of snow and had 50+mph winds..i did have some snow in the engine bay when i finally unburried it..but no problems..fires right up

[lagos]

i think i also remember reading something about how its bad to insulate any exhaust components on a turbo car, because the heat is what helps the turbo spool up. so using heat wrap or coating on the dp or manifold is said to be a no no on a turbo car.

engine bay temps wont be an issuse beacuse the vent is right over the exhaust manifold. so when heat rises, it come out of that vent and out of your engine bay.

another thing to think about is that insulation works both ways. by keeping the heat insulated, your egt temps might skyrocket.

This post has been edited by lagos: Jan 30, 2005 - 3:53 PM

[macavely]

i think i also remember reading something about how its bad to insulate any exhaust components on a turbo car, because the heat is what helps the turbo spool up.  so using heat wrap or coating on the dp or manifold is said to be a no no on a turbo car.

engine bay temps wont be an issuse beacuse the vent is right over the exhaust manifold. so when heat rises, it come out of that vent and out of your engine bay.

another thing to think about is that insulation works both ways. by keeping the heat insulated, your egt temps might skyrocket.
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I haven't read that.. but then agian there is alot i haven't read.... coating the manifold to keep heat in and out is not a bad thing....

engine bay temp is always an issue... I always thought the vent in one the hold of the 6gc was to let air into the TMIC not to relase heat.... can anyone let me know if wrong or right ? ,,,

now way back when i had my A4 .. (i still miss her) .... they manifold was coated, but just on the out side... and a heat box around the turbo.. all that was to help keep then engine cool and the turbo hot...

[lagos]

no mac, the vent is over the exhaust and does nothing for the top mount IC. ill post a pic of my car as soon as image hosting comes back online.

the st205 ic is water cooled and has a little radiator that you mount to the front of your car for cooling the water.

[fastgt]

now what if we dont have a oil filter relocation kit, would there be a danger if the oil filter sat too close to the downpipe? could the filter possibly melt?

[lagos]

no i doubt that would happen. the whole point of relocating the filter is because it gets in the way of the downpipe.

[fastgt]

no i mean without the relocation kit

[Sev408]

presure where are u looking at putting the oil filter when you relocate it. Im going to do a 3s swap this summer and like the idea of moving it to the side so it will be easier to change when i do my oil changes.

[presure2]

sev, with the 3s swap there really is no need to relocate the oil filter..plenty of room to get in there...im doing the relocation kit because i cant get my filter on at all with my turbo setup. havent really decided on a spot for it yet, as i havent gotten all the peices in.
mac, the hood vent is just that...a vent..all 3 vents on the GT-4 hood are to let air out.
art..

i think i also remember reading something about how its bad to insulate any exhaust components on a turbo car, because the heat is what helps the turbo spool up. so using heat wrap or coating on the dp or manifold is said to be a no no on a turbo car.

this dont make any sense.
the point of coating the manifold is to keep heat in.

because the heat is what helps the turbo spool up.

exactly. keeping the heat in the manifold is a GOOD thing. helps spool. also helps keep exhaust velocity up. KO dont coat theyre downpipes just for looks
as far as the GT-4 hood keeping under hood temps "cool"...yea, the vents definetly help a bit...but not like its not still REAL hot under there..especially once i add the turbo bits..


This post has been edited by presure2: Jan 31, 2005 - 6:25 AM