Best Match up Vs. Celica, ? Options

[celica47]

This is a big one guys who would you like to be stacked up against?

[fastgt]

if by other you mean geo metro, ill take other haha... this pole is kinda dumb... what type of integra....type r or ls? what type of neon srt4 or sxt? what type of eclipse gst or rs?

its kinda vague man and heres a news flash almost any car can beat our cars especially if you have a stock st..

now there are exceptions to our cars. some of us have 3sgte's ( the powerhouse)

but we all cant afford the swap so others have 5sfte's(including myself soon) and 7afte's the cheaper but effective performance path.

1 of our members has a 7agte which is a beautiful monster.

so believe me when i say youre probably gonna get beat by a lot of cars...unless its a geo. and dont go looking for a quick performance upgrade cuz believe me you wont find it, or else we'd all have it. if you want some more hp for the celica be prepared to spend some money

[celica47]

OK BIG dawg youre right, i guess when i said an Integra would assume the one most people race with but tell to coom to burn this post if you want

[fastgt]

i never said i was a big dawg. there are people who could literaly run circles around me when it comes to cars.. but all im saying is that you can find the easy way out with these cars cuz it just wont happen

[celica47]

iam confused are what youre talking bro with "you cant find the easy way with these cars cuz it just wont happen" wheres that coming from just wandering?

[lagos]

i think i would probably smoke most of those on the list. only real threat i see is if the eclipse was turbo, or the neon an str4

This post has been edited by lagos: Feb 14, 2005 - 9:56 PM

[celica47]

yeah its kind of vague man... but i just ment in general you know

[fastgt]

its coming from experience with this car... our celicas ARE NOT FAST but they are alittle quicker than SOME cars.

and finding the easy way out. by that i mean theres no easy bolt on performance for our car... intakes dont do crap neither do exhaust and if they do its very minimal we all know that

thats why i say theres no easy way out

ask lagos how long and how hard his swap was. but now his car is faster and more beautiful than ever.

our cars have 2 things damn good looks and kick ass handling... but if you want speed you better fork out some cash

[celica47]

Tru Tru alright man i got you...yeah thats what iam about i want my celica to look good and have some gimpy performance upgrades lol iam not hardcore... but i mean if you can get the engine swap youre right youre the man then lol

[Mr_E]

its coming from experience with this car... our celicas ARE NOT FAST

Speak for yourself.

[Supersprynt]

HAHA, mine wasnt, now I'll race a 350z given the chance.

[Newbie]

I agree that this poll is vague.. Are you talking stock ST204's or stock ST205's? Modded or what?

[Puchi]

Sorry, couldn't resist...





This post has been edited by Puchi: Feb 15, 2005 - 9:27 AM

[celica47]

awww damn guys youre killing me lol, i promise next one will cover every detail

[Insanity-74]

I like the challenge of Evo`s (early ones) or Impreza`s, some you win, some you lose but its all fun, my fave fodder has to be BMW`s as BM drivers seem to think they have the fastest thing on the road, I love leaving them behind. All but the later M 3`s or 5`s and even then I`ll have a go.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I’d just compared everything to an American GT stock. The new Civic Si’s could beat us, the others would have a hard time. 95-99 GT-S or X Eclipse would beat us, the early ones are a good race, about a 50/50 shot. We could beat every Neon except the SRT-4. It’d be a good race with the V6 stang, depends on the year. But the 5.0’s and up GT’s will walk all over us. Older mustangs aren’t to hard to beat as long as there stock and not BOSS’s or Cobra’s. I think the V6 Probe might be a good race. The early 90’s turbo Probe would be hard to handle. The four cylinders would be easy. All focuses except the SVT, in which case I think would be a good race but the SVT might pull the win, have a ¼ chance of winning. I think we could handle about any Accord. The GS (I think that’s the right model) Integra’s would be a good race, but I don’t know much about these. This is all just my opinion, and sort of put out there for some discussion.

[Mr_E]

I like the challenge of Evo`s (early ones) or Impreza`s, some you win, some you lose but its all fun, my fave fodder has to be BMW`s as BM drivers seem to think they have the fastest thing on the road, I love leaving them behind. All but the later M 3`s or 5`s and even then I`ll have a go.
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I have a go at late spec Evos too......

I run level with my bosses brand new STi PPP......

[Insanity-74]

Hmmmm, maybe I`ll have ago against those late Evo`s then, dont come across them very often though.

[Mr_E]

Beautiful blue Four by the way.

Very rare.

[Insanity-74]

Cheers!

[forkee]

i wouldnt say its a bad topic. just not specific. i would just assume all the cars are stock, and the lowest model.

[celica47]

hey guys thanks for not toasting me guys lol, great info yeah like i said apologize about being vague ...

[Jaemus]

ill second that, stunning blue GT4

This post has been edited by Jaemus: Feb 15, 2005 - 9:33 PM

[turboinduction]

I’d just compared everything to an American GT stock.  The new Civic Si’s could beat us, the others would have a hard time.  95-99 GT-S or X Eclipse would beat us, the early ones are a good race, about a 50/50 shot.  We could beat every Neon except the SRT-4.  It’d be a good race with the V6 stang, depends on the year.  But the 5.0’s and up GT’s will walk all over us.  Older mustangs aren’t to hard to beat as long as there stock and not BOSS’s or Cobra’s.  I think the V6 Probe might be a good race.  The early 90’s turbo Probe would be hard to handle.  The four cylinders would be easy.  All focuses except the SVT, in which case I think would be a good race but the SVT might pull the win, have a ¼ chance of winning.  I think we could handle about any Accord.  The GS (I think that’s the right model) Integra’s would be a good race, but I don’t know much about these.  This is all just my opinion, and sort of put out there for some discussion.
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let me edit this a bit

The Civic EX was made to compete with the 5S. In fact, my bestest buddy ever has one. Its almost a direct tie. So EX's would give us a run for our money.

The Eclipse/Talon/Laser Turbo FWD/AWD would kill, and kill bad. The N/A motors would also give us a run for our money. The "old" Eclipse is acutally proven better than the second gen, though I prefer second gen's more. I know this because I came from the DSM family.

The Neon R/T (also known as the N/A Eclipse/Talon) would again, give us a run for our money. The SRT would kill.

The V6 Stang would win. The V8 stang would kill.

The V6 Probe/MX6 would win by alot. The Turbo Probe would win. The 4-banger would lose.

Your right about the Focus. All but SVT would lose.

I think the Accord V6 would win, the 4-cyl would be close only due to weight.

The Integra (THE CAR CHOSEN TO BE CELICA'S ENEMY, yes boys and girls, the Honda Integra is the rival to the Celica). The Older GS is a good tie. The TYPE-R was made to compete against the 7th gen GTS, and thats a good race.



Its not that I hate the Celica. I'm just realistic. I've driven almost all late model import sports cars and have owned quite a few. You cant expect a 135HP (best model) to compete with the top models of others. I'd say the Civic/Integra and the N/A Eclipse/Talon are the best match ups.

-Ti

This post has been edited by turboinduction: Feb 15, 2005 - 11:17 PM

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I don't like my Celica. I think it's slow and I want something else. I just bought it because my girlfriend liked it, and now no one will let me sell it. I did race a turbo Laser once (same as the 1gen gs-t eclipse) and barely won. I'm slitely modded, and I'm pretty good at racing, so these might have had an effect on the race. As for the other cars, I'm just going on the one's I've raced and drove. I've raced and drove a V6 stang, and I can beat it, no question.

EDIT: I want an MR2 turbo, or a Civic Hachback Si. I'd rather have the mr2 turbo though. I had a nice dream about driving that thing the other night.

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Feb 16, 2005 - 12:02 AM

[macavely]

i think the best match for a celi would be another celi ..... that way its toatally about the driver the way it should be..

[XxAxnCelica95xX]

hey guy im just wonderin..celica stock vs mr2 stock ....celica gt4 vs turbo mr2 ....celica with ct26 turbo vs turbo mr2 ....i know it migfht sound stupid but im wondeerin...who will win and why and how come...anybody wanna answer this for me..thanks b4 head of time for my duh question... hahhaha

This post has been edited by XxAxnCelica95xX: Feb 16, 2005 - 12:24 AM

[Jdog1385]

ummmm...im staying away from my buddies DSM. he beat me by half a car length with his 99 GS. now he has a Hahn racecraft turbo setup

This post has been edited by Jdog1385: Feb 16, 2005 - 12:27 AM

[Insanity-74]

hey guy im just wonderin..celica stock vs mr2 stock ....celica gt4 vs turbo mr2 ....celica with ct26 turbo vs turbo mr2          ....i know it migfht sound stupid but im wondeerin...who will win and why and how come...anybody wanna answer this for me..thanks b4 head of time for my duh question... hahhaha
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If it was a point to point race in a straight line then I recon the MR2 would take it, being lighter an all. Add a few corners in, and a bit of bad weather then the Celica would win.

I can only really comment on the GT4 v MR2 Turbo. The Celica`s 4wd helps on launch but slows you down when all that tracktion is no longer needed. But like I said, add a few nice tight corners in and the Celica will stomp all over the tail happy MR2

[sphinx]

i think i would probably smoke most of those on the list. only real threat i see is if the eclipse was turbo, or the neon an str4
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It's ok if the eclipse is turbo, you can still beat him. The only thing you have to worry about is if it's AWD. If it is, then it will be close, if you actually run a full 1/4 mile. If it's 1/8 mile, then you lost.

As for the SRT4, you have no problems. I take them out all the time.

This post has been edited by sphinx: Feb 16, 2005 - 1:30 PM

[sphinx]

I like the challenge of Evo`s (early ones) or Impreza`s, some you win, some you lose but its all fun, my fave fodder has to be BMW`s as BM drivers seem to think they have the fastest thing on the road, I love leaving them behind. All but the later M 3`s or 5`s and even then I`ll have a go.
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I still haven't had the privelage to run a Evo, M3, or M5 on the street. But I have on the freeway. The Evo and M3 can be beat, but not the M5. That !@#$ is fast.

[nik]

a chick ask me if i wanted to race a few days ago she has a 99 eclipse gsx
i think she only has exhaust and intake but thats it. I'll probably take her up on it.

[sphinx]

I voted "mustang" only because i'm not a big fan of american cars, and I love it when a muscle car gets beat by a 4 banger.


Now, i have a quick question. I've never heard of this mustang, but a mustang with the "roush" badge on the rear lined up next to me wanting to race. We went at it, but I want to know what the specs are on it. Does anyone know?

[sphinx]

a chick ask me if i wanted to race a few days ago she has a 99 eclipse gsx
i think she only has exhaust and intake but thats it. I'll probably take her up on it.
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go for it, but if you want to win or keep it close, race a FULL 1/4 mile.

[Insanity-74]

I still haven't had the privelage to run a Evo, M3, or M5 on the street. But I have on the freeway. The Evo and M3 can be beat, but not the M5. That !@#$ is fast.

Depends alot on the driver, On the motorway the M5 is a beast and pretty much untouchable, but alot of drivers seem to be unwilling to push them that hard on the twisties which is where the GT4 is at its best.

I`d love to have a pop at some of the american muscle cars, always hear about V8 mustangs etc, We dont have any of them in the UK and I know very little about them, think I`ve only ever seen one on the street, Big American cars just arnt popular over here apart from with a few collectors/enthusiasts. It would be interesting to see how they compare to the faff.

[maikl]

well..................... i am not afraid any n/a car honesty and some stock turbo either

[turboinduction]

I voted "mustang" only because i'm not a big fan of american cars, and I love it when a muscle car gets beat by a 4 banger.


Now, i have a quick question. I've never heard of this mustang, but a mustang with the "roush" badge on the rear lined up next to me wanting to race. We went at it, but I want to know what the specs are on it. Does anyone know?
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Its a GT modified to be faster than a SVT Cobra. You would lose.

-Ti

[sphinx]

I voted "mustang" only because i'm not a big fan of american cars, and I love it when a muscle car gets beat by a 4 banger.


Now, i have a quick question. I've never heard of this mustang, but a mustang with the "roush" badge on the rear lined up next to me wanting to race. We went at it, but I want to know what the specs are on it. Does anyone know?
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Its a GT modified to be faster than a SVT Cobra. You would lose.

-Ti
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I didn't.

[turboinduction]

I didn't.   
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I guess I'm somewhat right. The Roush comes in 3 stages, the 3rd stage is the only powerhouse one of the three.

www.roushperf.com

-Ti

[Kwanza26]

Bench racing hurts my head... you guys should really stop. Look at the specs... the weight, the mods, the drivetrain layout, and then figure it out in your head. The specs typically hold up.

[Timeless6gcelica]

i think i would probably smoke most of those on the list. only real threat i see is if the eclipse was turbo, or the neon an str4
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It's ok if the eclipse is turbo, you can still beat him. The only thing you have to worry about is if it's AWD. If it is, then it will be close, if you actually run a full 1/4 mile. If it's 1/8 mile, then you lost.

As for the SRT4, you have no problems. I take them out all the time.
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For some reason i think the srt4 might stomp the US celicas but through a 3s powered bad boy in there and its all over for the neon!

[Timeless6gcelica]

How bout the GT4 the GSX the integra/civic Type R the 5.0 stang the probe GT (v6) the SVT and i guess the v6 accord? Who would come out on top?


can u say CELICA?

[celica47]

hey guys thanks for keeping this post alive great info...i guess it isnt that bad after all lol

[Insanity-74]

How bout the GT4 the GSX the integra/civic Type R the 5.0 stang the probe GT (v6) the SVT and i guess the v6 accord?  Who would come out on top?


can u say CELICA?
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Which year GT4?
I`ve gone up against Integra`s and Civic type-R`s and there was no challenge they are easy kills, never been against a 5.0 Stang, would be interesting though. Accord type-R, same result although they are a bit more of a challenge once they get going, they pick up past about 60mph pretty well.
Alot depends on the situation, weather and driver ability, if your talking about a straight line "drag" then the GT4 has a destinct advantage being 4 wheel drive (good launch), which also gives it the edge around the track over the 2wd counterparts as you can get the power down out of the corners alot quicker without fear of understeer, or oversteer in the case of the Mustang.
Cars that offer more of a threat to the GT4
Audi S4 quatro
Bmw M3`s
Boxters
Audi TT
Evo`s
Impreza sti
Not a bad list for a car that is after all "Old" If Toyota had kept the GT4 model going with todays technology I`m sure the list would be even bigger.
If its a pre 94 GT4 the engines can soon be fettled with to produce the same power as the post 94 GT4 after all it is basically the same engine.

Think I`ve dronned on long enough regurgitating info that you probably all know already anyway, Wish me luck as I have a job interview to go to...

[maikl]

good luck! i'm sure you will get the job

[creis]

I put mustang (GT maybe) because I wanted a challance, something to work for, not a free give away like a stock or riced civic/integra I feel that if I can take a mustang GT then I've got a pretty good car. (would need a trubo etc to do it but I'll have one in a wile)

short story:
I was just up against a civic (2d coupe, riced) on the free way, normaly I dont race at all, but felt inclined since it was a wide open straght road just me the civic, and a guy I work with behind me in a firebird (97 I think, v6 auto) anyway the civic took off, and could hardly get lined up with me going 75ish, when he got close to even I diched him, In less then 10 sec they were both about 50-75 feet back, I though they did not try. but latter my co-worker at work said that the civic had gunned it just to get lined up and gave up shorty after I pulled away, he also said that he was struggling to keep up after I took off. witch was pretty cool.

all in all I took a 97ish civic and 97ish firebird without putting up a sweat, so my next target is a Mustang GT and that one is not gana give it to me without a fight.

[Kwanza26]

hey guys thanks for keeping this post alive great info...i guess it isnt that bad after all lol
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I fail to see the "great info"... but my idea of information differs greatly.

Seriously now... most of the replies to this topic are realtively newbish people who are throwing out guesses based on nothing. Maybe one or two of you know what you're talking about... but the rest of you who are racing Mustang GTs and stuff... c'mon... Just race and find out if you're dying to know. Why ask what someone else thinks is gonna happen when the answers are in plain numbers?

Bench racing =

[Jdog1385]

agreed. you know what your car is capable of so just go out and see what it can do.

It's ok if the eclipse is turbo, you can still beat him. The only thing you have to worry about is if it's AWD. If it is, then it will be close, if you actually run a full 1/4 mile. If it's 1/8 mile, then you lost.

ummmmm, my buddy has a fwd turbo eclipse gs that has almost 300whp.

and if you see a GSX!, keep driving b/c you wont be able to catch up to him to ask for a race.

doesnt matter that the older eclipse is a pig weight wise, it still has a powerhouse under the hood.

This post has been edited by Jdog1385: Feb 19, 2005 - 1:37 PM

[Watanbe88]

the only challenge I have run into is my friends heavily modded WRX (he can smoke an STi) tho he is no match once we are on the highway or on a twisty road.