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post Feb 27, 2005 - 2:41 AM
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Alright - I have been looking at pictures of liftbacks - well one and its hard to see the back - and normal GT hatchbacks - What is the differences of the looks between the
two?? I know this is a stupid question but i cannot find it..
What are the visual differences between the GT hatchback and the Liftback - in other words do they look the same or not? does anyone have any good pictures of a liftback? i havent been able to find one!!
thanks for your guy's time
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post Feb 27, 2005 - 2:47 AM
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I think they are the same thing biggrin.gif


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 2:50 AM
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Hatchback rear comes straight down. Similar to the new Civic Si, and like the CRX and the VW GTI and Rabbit. Liftbacks have a lil more body near the end like the Celicas and the Integras and RSX's.


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 5:24 AM
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Do you have a picture??
thanks in advance
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post Feb 27, 2005 - 9:25 AM
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For the 6gc, the hatchback is equivalent to a liftback (the terminology is interchangable) but it differs to the coupe.

Hatchback/Liftback: http://www.6gc.net/photo.php?file=/images/...otos/300_44.jpg

Coupe: http://www.6gc.net/photo.php?file=/images/..._photos/1_4.jpg

(Hope you don't mind doGGy and Coomer, both your cars rock!)

The GT liftback is the same as the ST Liftback (as in rear shape), in case you were wondering.


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 9:29 AM
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I always though a liftback and a hatchback where the same, tongue.gif


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 12:04 PM
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QUOTE(creis @ Feb 27, 2005 - 8:29 AM)
I always though a liftback and a hatchback where the same, tongue.gif
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i thought they ARE the same.


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 2:22 PM
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QUOTE(Shigexile @ Feb 27, 2005 - 10:04 AM)
QUOTE(creis @ Feb 27, 2005 - 8:29 AM)
I always though a liftback and a hatchback where the same, tongue.gif
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i thought they ARE the same.
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they arent the same. look at the CRX, GTI, Golf, rear and look at the rear of an RSX and our Celicas. They're different. Not by much.

I swear that EVERYTHING i say on here gets ignored.

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post Feb 27, 2005 - 2:53 PM
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I swear that EVERYTHING i say on here gets ignored.


Perhaps its because that on the 6gc, hatchback and liftback mean the same thing. There are NOT two different models for our cars. I understand that you didn't say there was. However, the original question assumed that there was and was asking what the difference was on OUR CARS. Thats why we don't need to argue about what a "liftback" and "hatchback" is in general in this thread. It suffices just to say "they are the same thing". If someone says they have a 6gc liftback, we should all know what he means.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 27, 2005 - 5:18 PM
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Hatchback=Liftback.

post Feb 27, 2005 - 5:37 PM
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soo liftback is hatchback samething . ....then wat is coupe...

coupe is diff from hatch??Im lost


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 5:44 PM
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Sweet - Thanks guys - you've all be excellent help - i was looking through cars cause im going to buy one and i kept seeing liftback and i didnt know what it looked like so now i kn0w - thanks again
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post Feb 27, 2005 - 6:07 PM
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QUOTE(XxAxnCelica95xX @ Feb 27, 2005 - 10:37 PM)
soo liftback is hatchback  samething  . ....then wat is coupe...

coupe is diff from hatch??Im lost
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QUOTE(CoSo @ Feb 27, 2005 - 2:25 PM)
For the 6gc, the hatchback is equivalent to a liftback (the terminology is interchangable) but it differs to the coupe.

Hatchback/Liftback: http://www.6gc.net/photo.php?file=/images/...otos/300_44.jpg

Coupe: http://www.6gc.net/photo.php?file=/images/..._photos/1_4.jpg

(Hope you don't mind doGGy and Coomer, both your cars rock!)

The GT liftback is the same as the ST Liftback (as in rear shape), in case you were wondering.
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post Feb 27, 2005 - 6:24 PM
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Hatch back


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lift back....

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what is the difference? there is a test... put your knee on the back bumper and open the trunk.. If you have to move out of the way for the lid to fully open then it is a hatchback..


coupes are not lift backs nor hatch backs..

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post Feb 27, 2005 - 7:31 PM
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the terminology is all very confusing .. so read this

http://www.answers.com/topic/car-body-style
post Feb 27, 2005 - 7:39 PM
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QUOTE(gh0st_d0g @ Feb 27, 2005 - 7:31 PM)
the terminology is all very confusing .. so read this

http://www.answers.com/topic/car-body-style
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Nice post Pieter.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 27, 2005 - 7:50 PM
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CONCLUSION: HATCHBACK IS NOT THE SAME AS LIFTBACK.


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 8:40 PM
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QUOTE(Sh0gunkid8721 @ Feb 27, 2005 - 7:50 PM)
CONCLUSION:  HATCHBACK IS NOT THE SAME AS LIFTBACK.
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Except on a 6th generation celica or any other car that only offers one of the two options...


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Feb 27, 2005 - 8:41 PM
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the diffrence is one looks better then the other .... biggrin.gif wink.gif lol


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 8:57 PM
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hahahah ok which one look better...hatch or lift....


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Lift looks sooo much better with ours... and how can u say they ARENT different.... look form the side at Coupe version or trunk verison.... when u open the trunk the glass stays there..... not moving..... when u open the lift back the glass and eveyrhting comes up.... also the liftback slopes down and straightends.... the coupe is a steeper slope and jutts straight back...


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post Feb 27, 2005 - 10:34 PM
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wow this is retarded cause what is a coupe doing in here

COUPE= TRUNK lid not lift or hatch

HATCH AND LIFT ARE INTERCHANGABLE

if you want to get technical

hatch is like our car and a few others where the hatch is slanted and opens GLASS AND ALL from the stock angel up

LIFT is a more "vertical" style open

but freaking stop this retarded topic

LIFT=hatch
HATCH=lift

coupe = on its own
post Feb 28, 2005 - 12:21 PM
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Ok maybe its just me but i thought that the lift back and hatchback were different. Just when i search on-line they usually fall into different categories. I thought a hatchback has a hatch where the glass lifts up and everything. As far as a coupe goes, it is to designate a car having two doors. Seeing as a HATCHback is refered to as a 3 door, a coupe would be a celica w/a trunk where the glass doesnt lift up. The fact that hatchback=liftback is new to me. I thought a liftback were the models with a trunk where the glass doesnt come up and a hatcback was, well a hatchback.

Besides name we know there are two kinds, with a trunk, and with a hatch. Heres a link that shows the back end of each. Its almost at the bottom of the page. I like the hatch better. Nicer taillights (like JDM- GT4 ones), the rear glass is shaped different, the rear side windows are different, and the whole rear end is a different shape.
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hey guy's

we have coupe's and lift backs !

as the first and second gen even had badged on them......

i had a 2nd gen XT liftback


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post Mar 5, 2005 - 9:54 AM
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Hatchback and liftback are the same thing, my Celica is designated as a Hatchback and its the same as the picture of the Black celica posted earlyer designated as a liftback.
Hatchback = Liftback

A coupe has the trunk hinges under the back window as opposed to above the back window.
post Mar 5, 2005 - 9:59 PM
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Ok, here's the thing:

People are getting confused based on the context of the liftback vs hatchback argument.

On a 6th generation Celica, people use both terms (Liftback and Hatchback) to mean the same thing, ie the back-glass-hydraulic openable door/hatch as opposed to the trunk/boot-only coupe.

This is not necessarily the case on other cars. Liftback and Hatchback are technically different definitions, which have been defined earlier in this topic. A civic hatchback should not be called a civic liftback.

However, the Celica is referred to as both hatchback and liftback. For our purposes, they mean the same thing.

Now, for the logical follow-on question:

What's the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof? biggrin.gif


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QUOTE
What's the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?



http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20030617.html




Dear Yahoo!:
What's the difference between a sunroof and a moonroof?
Heather
Crawfordsville, Indiana

Dear Heather:
Having just gone through the long and drawn-out process of purchasing a new car and asking that very same thing, we here at Ask Yahoo! felt uniquely qualified to answer your question. According to the helpful salesman at our local car lot, the difference is in name alone.
Of course, we all know you can't believe everything someone, especially a salesman, tells you, so we looked for confirmation. A search on "sunroof moonroof difference" promised to uncover the truth. Sure enough, the very first search result was a page of frequently asked questions from sunroofs.com, a site "devoted to public awareness and education about automotive sunroofs."

The answer?

"Sunroof" is the generic term used to describe an operable panel in a vehicle roof which can let in light and/or air. "Moonroof" is a term created by Ford in the 70s, yet is now used generically to describe glass panel inbuilt electric sunroofs.
Hmmm, so all moonroofs are sunroofs, yet not all sunroofs are moonroofs? We found further clarification -- "sunroof" is the term originally used to describe a metal panel that would only allow light or air in when opened. A "moonroof," on the other hand, is a glass panel that can allow light in even when it is closed (provided, of course, you slide back that nifty fabric-covered panel to expose the glass).

True sunroofs, those made just of metal, appear to have gone the way of 8-tracks in automobiles, and these days, most "sunroofs" are really "moonroofs" -- panels of tempered glass, usually tinted, that tilt up to allow a flow of air, or slide back into the roof entirely, giving the car occupants a brief but tantalizing glimpse of life in a convertible.
Seems like our friendly salesperson wasn't telling us quite the whole story...

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http://www.motorera.com/dictionary/car-dic.htm


hatchback:
A car design in which the rear trunk and lid are replaced by a rear hatch that includes the backlight (i.e., rear window). Usually the rear seat folds down to accommodate more luggage. Originally a hatch was a small opening in the deck of a sailing ship. The term "hatch" was later applied to airplane doors and to passenger cars with rear liftgates. Various models appeared in the early 1950s, but weather-tightness was a problem. The concept emerged again in the early 1970s, when fuel economy factors began to signal the trend toward compact cars. Technology had remedied the sealing difficulties. By the 1980s, most manufacturers produced one or more hatchback models, though the question of whether to call them "two-door" or "three-door" never was resolved. Their main common feature was the lack of a separate trunk. "Liftback" coupes may have had a different rear-end shape, but the two terms often described essentially the same vehicle.
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[SIZE=7]Lift-back = officially called, "Lift-Gate"

"hatch-back" is the unoffical term for "Lift-Gate", in terms of the 6th. gen. Celica.

example of "hatch-back": in WRC, the "Euro-Spec Corolla-hatch-back"(the Corolla w/ the low beam projectors, the same as 6th gen Celica low beam projectors). Euro-Spec Corolla replaced the Celica GT4 Lift-Gate; due to the Celica weighing more and not having a good driving view as compared to the 6th. gen Celica!

i love "all celicas" different body styles!

but....i personally prefer the liftback models more. due to a sportier body form.

thank you for your time and post(s)!

-usdm_at200

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