*All VIS Group Buyers*, Hatch & Sideskirts Options

[Defgeph]

Seeing that these guys (VIS) are very slowy/shadey. I say we try to organize a plan to have both of these group buys go smoothly.

The skirt guys - Have fitment problems
The hatch guys - Well, We dont have anything yet.

What I'm thinking is maybe we can all come together, refuse final payment until both products are exaclty how we want them. Or, maybe try to get a step up in the consumer relations over at VIS.

I'm very tired of shadey, lazy, unprofessional people. I want what all of you guys want, what we paid for.

Keep in mind I dont want to be the leader of this battle, Just want to get some discussion going about how to fix this problem.

What do you guys think

Defgeph

This post has been edited by defgeph: Apr 15, 2005 - 6:57 PM

[Digndoug]

I understand the problem, and this does piss me offf, being in the g/b for the skirts and it taking freaking 4 months.. Thats BS.. Although neaither has my lip been shipped eaither. . Id love to hold out with you, but when my skirts are ready im gunna pay. Unless i find another or better deal tonight then il just hold out.

Somtimes theres nothing you can do. Cause we refuse to pay or buy, some one else will give them money.

[Defgeph]

Will you be happy with the half a$$ed job side skirt ?
You'll be content with paying 200 shipped for warped fiberglass ?

These guys suck, and we need to do something about this.

[Digndoug]

Will you be happy with the half a$$ed job side skirt ? 
You'll be content with paying 200 shipped for warped fiberglass ?

These guys suck, and we need to do something about this.
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They better not be half ass or warped, if they are i will drive to them and kick there ass's and then make them pay me back and give me money to drive out there.

[Defgeph]

you'll be riding those waves all the way to the body shop



This post has been edited by defgeph: Apr 15, 2005 - 7:19 PM

[jgreening]

Will you be happy with the half a$$ed job side skirt ? 
You'll be content with paying 200 shipped for warped fiberglass ?

These guys suck, and we need to do something about this.
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They better not be half ass or warped, if they are i will drive to them and kick there ass's and then make them pay me back and give me money to drive out there.
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Sure you will. Def is trying to have a serious discussion here.

I am not sure what we can do Def. If we held out, what would they do? Just keep your deposit and sell to the next guy to come along. I doubt it would have an impact. For me, the issue turns on fitment. If they can correct it, I will live with the wait. If they can't, then they will give me a refund or face a lawsuit.

[Digndoug]

Will you be happy with the half a$$ed job side skirt ? 
You'll be content with paying 200 shipped for warped fiberglass ?

These guys suck, and we need to do something about this.
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They better not be half ass or warped, if they are i will drive to them and kick there ass's and then make them pay me back and give me money to drive out there.
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Sure you will. Def is trying to have a serious discussion here.

I am not sure what we can do Def. If we held out, what would they do? Just keep your deposit and sell to the next guy to come along. I doubt it would have an impact. For me, the issue turns on fitment. If they can correct it, I will live with the wait. If they can't, then they will give me a refund or face a lawsuit.
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Im gunna basicaly do the same.. but if they dont refund or if it isnt perfect i will take a drive, its been awhile sence the last road trip.

[Defgeph]

J, I hear ya man. I'm more pissed at the way these people conduct business. I'm just trying to find a way to help the skirt guys as well as the hatches.

I'm really asking for some ideas as how we can better our current situation.

But if you think about it, where are they gonna find 30 people that are ready to pay ? I think they would have some sort of consideration towards a protest or a boycott maybe ?

Who knows what I'm asking. I just hope you guys dont settle for what they give you. Make them do it the right way. I dont want to see these pooly made skirts slapped all over ebay.

DEF

[Digndoug]

IF there poorly made There going right back. But the problem about refusing to pay or any of that nonsence is thats only going to take more time.. And we have waited long enough. My guess is its not worth it. Like if we dont pay, they'll sell them on e-bay or somthing and still make there money. Also with the fact about the fitting, thats to make sure there good which i like. I know my brother has some that wernt fitted and there pretty crapy.

[jgreening]

One easy thing we can do is demand to see pictures of perfect fitment before we pay the balance. Thats easy enough. As for the timing, I think we are pretty much stuck and will have to rely on their integrity.

[thedevilmaycrie]

ive had my feel with vis ...

-DMC

[Defgeph]

dig - Check the website "All products sold as is"
No hope for returning them.
J - which ever member of 6gc thats doing the test fit. Have them test fit several skirts. These guys seem to be the type to modify the test pair and ship out the rest untouched. With pics of course.

[Digndoug]

dig - Check the website "All products sold as is"
No hope for returning them.
J -  which ever member of 6gc thats doing the test fit. Have them test fit several skirts. These guys seem to be the type to modify the test pair and ship out the rest untouched. With pics of course.
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Hummm, I might be looking into getting my money back, i can fix them but i woulda expected them 2 months ago to fix them my self.

[madmods]

Unfortuneatly, I can take that skirt, warp it a bit and make it a perfect fit, then show you the pic. I dont know why you guys dont go to cyberbestbuy since there vis products. I got my stuff within 4 days. 4 months is too long

[tomazws]

Plus they need better customer service.


1). Went to VIS to drop off 200$ for the hatch. All they need to do is take the freakin money and give me a freakin recept. That alone took an hour.

2). Went to VIS yesterday to test fit the skirts. All they need to do is ask someone to take the freakin skirt and smack that sh!t on my car... That alone, never freakin' happened. I waited 2 hours.

3). Went again today to fit the damn thing. Well.... It was faster today cuz I told him straight out I only have an hour for him.


Talked to some of those sitting there looking at ceiling with me (Cuz we were just so fcukin bored we just need to talk), most of them are from body shops and etc. And they all told me VIS takes forever to get a simple job done. Like, to print a freakin' invoice... takes'em a freakin' hour to do so...


argh..

[2003cbgts]

yup.. vis as a company sucks sooo much ass... no help at all.

[Digndoug]

Unfortuneatly, I can take that skirt, warp it a bit and make it a perfect fit, then show you the pic. I dont know why you guys dont go to cyberbestbuy since there vis products. I got my stuff within 4 days. 4 months is too long
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how much did you pay? Cause the only reaosn im doing this is because its only gunna run around $140 or so

[jgreening]

Unfortuneatly, I can take that skirt, warp it a bit and make it a perfect fit, then show you the pic. I dont know why you guys dont go to cyberbestbuy since there vis products. I got my stuff within 4 days. 4 months is too long
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What techniques do you use to make it fit? How about a little how-to?

[Digndoug]

Unfortuneatly, I can take that skirt, warp it a bit and make it a perfect fit, then show you the pic. I dont know why you guys dont go to cyberbestbuy since there vis products. I got my stuff within 4 days. 4 months is too long
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What techniques do you use to make it fit? How about a little how-to?
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Best thing to use is a heat gun, then move it to how it should be. maybe a lil shaving and such but i hope not.

[Doge]

I think that VIS doesnt take us seriously and thats part of the reason it takes so long. They see us as a bunch of individuals scattered throughout the country with now voice. I think if every one of us sent them an email or called them up... that would be 45 people all showing their unhappiness for the company... I think by doing that we will at least let them know that we arnt gonna allow them to walk all over us like they are... right now they dont even really care because they think they have all the power in the matter.

[Consynx]

First off, i am very glad that none of your have put this on me, as i have been a relay-er pretty much always asking "when" and "why not"

As Doge said, feel free to call, in encourage anyone who is sick of this to call. I am being 100% serious, i want to see if they hurry this shtuff up when we start jamming all their phone lines.

i think that's what happened w/ the C-One hoods because Andason never said "don't call" like i was trying to do to keep things simple.

i'll be calling tues on schedule to say "wtf" as usual...no fun, and i mean...being a college student in PA doesn't really help the intimidation, but i'm sure some of you are thinking about reporting them somehow, so I might give a warning about some people being sick of waiting and thinking they got ripped and wanting to report borough of better business(from hatch GB).

i'll be back on later...at g/f's house, just skimming to see where the gb's are

[jgreening]

First off, i am very glad that none of your have put this on me, as i have been a relay-er pretty much always asking "when" and "why not"
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I appreciate your efforts Consynx. That said, I think you need to take the lead in finding out (a) how they intend to correct the fitment issues; and (b) when we can expect these pieces. You have a relationship with these folks and have sent them a lot of business over the last several months.

I get the impression that VIS was disappointed with the numbers in this group buy and didn't give it priority. If so, that really sucks for those of us that DID buy and have had to wait all this time. We are the guys who stuck to our word and placed the deposit. Why screw us with bad fitment or delay?

As the leader of this group buy, I have confidence you will do what you can to make sure 6gc members don't get burned with fitment issues or more delay. You have always seemed like a real good guy to me and I trust you will do what it takes to make sure expectations are met.

Jay.

[psyko]

i didn't read those whole post, so sorry if this has been mentioned. But just so you guys know it took almost a year for the c-one hoods. Although they came out great, VIS is known for being horribly slow.

[Consynx]

lol
it took 4 months
which is what we still h ave 4 weeks till reaching w/ the hatch

but thx

[Defgeph]

Good job conesex

[dustin15brown]

conesex that's still a funny story when i read that thread.... but yeah it should be alright.. and btw where are all the c one hood pics... me wanna see!!!

[Consynx]

C-One GB is long over, Andason took care of that

i wont get my hood for quite some time still though.

[Andason]

my hoods all fit didnt they?

[Consynx]

??
i dont have mine because waiting to hatch to end, and Rob Woz never paid...so i cut him off of my account.