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post Jun 2, 2005 - 6:21 PM
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couldnt really match this to a section so plz feel free to move it to the right place......

I want to mount my gauge or gauges if i buy more. I am unsure where is best, can someone please post some pics of theirs to help me out and to show me the tidyest way

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post Jun 2, 2005 - 7:51 PM
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umm if ur talking bout those small ones for volts, pressure, boost, etc., i have a 2 gauge pod a pillar thingie if u want i can sell it to u for 23 bucks+shipping. it looks just like the 3 pod pillar i have...cept it only has 2 slots...duh. =p


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post Jun 3, 2005 - 5:51 PM
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pics please....interested in the 2 gauge pod...thanks


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post Jun 3, 2005 - 6:00 PM
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Here's how I mounted mine:

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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jun 3, 2005 - 6:08 PM
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convinient location. nicely done. looks very clean. im looking to get the 3 guage pod for the pillar. one for my nitrous press, the other for the a/f ratio, and boost.


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post Jun 3, 2005 - 6:30 PM
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QUOTE(JoKeRkId613 @ Jun 3, 2005 - 6:08 PM)
convinient location. nicely done. looks very clean. im looking to get the 3 guage pod for the pillar. one for my nitrous press, the other for the a/f ratio, and boost.
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Those a/f guages are worthless. You may want to buy a wideband O2 guage instead.


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jun 3, 2005 - 6:43 PM
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i agree, cause i have one...its a cool light show tho and a place holder in my 3 pillar pod


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post Jun 3, 2005 - 9:47 PM
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post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:10 AM
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Those a/f guages are worthless. You may want to buy a wideband O2 guage instead.


not when you are running a turbo theyre not!
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:14 AM
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Oh yea, why don't you school me boy? Please tell me how an air/fuel guage with a narrow band O2 sensor is going to provide any meaningful information above 300rpms?


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:19 AM
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GT Four with upped boost will school you smile.gif
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:20 AM
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QUOTE(dan4 @ Jun 6, 2005 - 11:10 AM)
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Those a/f guages are worthless. You may want to buy a wideband O2 guage instead.


not when you are running a turbo theyre not!
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lol, you do you know the differece between a narrow band and a wide band o2 sensor?


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post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:22 AM
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i do does he?
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:25 AM
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I would put then on the pillar.... it just seems like the best place.

I molded a 2 guage pod to my friends a pillar a wile ago (his turbo is not installed yet so the pod is not either else I would post pics of it) but I think thats the best way to go, mold it so that it looks perfect and does not look added.


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post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(dan4 @ Jun 6, 2005 - 11:19 AM)
GT Four with upped boost will school you smile.gif
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Thanks for the informative post. I am sure you chose this reply because you could not back up your incorrect claims. BTW, people rely on the information that people post in this forum. So, when you suggest that people should buy a crappy a/f guage when they have a turbo application, you are actually encouaraging people to throw their money away. Moral of the story: don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:26 AM
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trust me, jay knows his stuff.

if you know how a narrow band gauge works, then you would know that it can not be used for any type of tuning.


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post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:26 AM
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dont really want this post getting heated ppl!

Mounted gauge in the air vent next to steering wheel (right hand side on mine). Looks good smile.gif
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:29 AM
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if you know how a narrow band gauge works, then you would know that it can not be used for any type of tuning.


True but it still provides the ECU with a reading that can be watched and therefore make sure your engine doesnt run too lean which is my main concern
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:30 AM
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QUOTE(dan4 @ Jun 6, 2005 - 11:29 AM)
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if you know how a narrow band gauge works, then you would know that it can not be used for any type of tuning.


True but it still provides the ECU with a reading that can be watched and therefore make sure your engine doesnt run too lean which is my main concern
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I will let you take this one Lagos because I am done here. Buy em books and buy em books....sigh.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:35 AM
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Well I'll be the one to say that I honestly don't know crap about mechanics. I'm running nitrous and I figure the air/fuel gauge would tell me when I'm running lean, when to spray or not. Is this right? Or would I need a wideband O2 gauge? To my understanding, the A/F gauge is narrwoband. I don't know what that means. But which one's the wideband O2 gauge, which I'm guessing is better for nitrous. I just thought the little light thing on the A/F gauge was cool. Lol.

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post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:35 AM
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dude i no like very little about 02 sensors and crap

a normal air/fuel does NOTHING for you if your boosting cause it can't read that much
i wouldnt even try that on my pos 7afe when i turbo

wideband o2 and boosting go hand in hand

get a clue
post Jun 6, 2005 - 11:48 AM
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Dan, I'm guessing your new here. Here's a tip. There's a couple people on this site not to fight with. When it comes to mechanical stuff, just take advice from lagos and jay, don't fight em, they're very informative.

Joker, for nitrous, congrats on wanting to go with a nitrous pressure gauge up front. Those are pretty expensive, but you're playing safely and I like that. If you have another slot to fill, fuel press would be nice. Course, it's helpful for the first dyno run. After that it should remain constent. As I understand it.


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post Jun 6, 2005 - 1:27 PM
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right normal lambda probes operate within certain parameters under a closed loop inside the stoichometric rule (roughly 14:1) and give an output voltage. However they cannot provide an extremely accurate air/fuel ratio which is necessary for control while tuning. Wide band sensors use a different method of air/fuel measurement which is more accurate and can work out how far from the stoichometric rule that the ratio should be even when the readings are extreme

Correct?

You can still keep a rough idea on what air/fuel ratio you have with a narrow lambda probe. Obviously if you run too rich you bore wash, and too lean you overheat.

Anyway i only asked about gauges lads, peace
post Jun 6, 2005 - 1:31 PM
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this wasnt aimed at an argument lads, just bcause there's a newbie here dont assume i am unintelligent. Part of our workshop runs its own rally team smile.gif
post Jun 6, 2005 - 1:38 PM
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check it out......

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post Jun 6, 2005 - 1:51 PM
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QUOTE(dan4 @ Jun 6, 2005 - 1:27 PM)
right normal lambda probes operate within certain parameters under a closed loop inside the stoichometric rule (roughly 14:1) and give an output voltage. However they cannot provide an extremely accurate air/fuel ratio which is necessary for control while tuning. Wide band sensors use a different method of air/fuel measurement which is more accurate and can work out how far from the stoichometric rule that the ratio should be even when the readings are extreme

Correct?

You can still keep a rough idea on what air/fuel ratio you have with a narrow lambda probe. Obviously if you run too rich you bore wash, and too lean you overheat.

Anyway i only asked about gauges lads, peace
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Looks like you did some searching on the internet. Although you should have done that in the first place, I commend your effort. However, I still take issue with the notion that a narrow band 02 sensor (or an a/f guage with a narrow band) provides anything useful above 300 r.p.m.

QUOTE(dan4 @ Jun 6, 2005 - 1:31 PM)
this wasnt aimed at an argument lads, just bcause there's a newbie here dont assume i am unintelligent. Part of our workshop runs its own rally team smile.gif
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Nobody ever said you were unintelligent - just uninformed. We were all uninformed once so that isn't really a problem - this place is about learning afterall. The problem occurs when you provide information as if its true when you are not sure. One idea might be to just say "I think" before your statement. If you say, "I think a a/f guage can be useful for turbo applications", I would not feel very sorry for the guy that went out and purchased one because of your statement.

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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Jun 6, 2005 - 4:34 PM
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post Jun 7, 2005 - 12:30 PM
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Looks like you did some searching on the internet


why thank you, no need to be insulting mad.gif
post Jun 19, 2005 - 6:31 PM
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hey quick question, does anyone know where to get a RHD gauge pod HERE in the STATES??

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