Know your video gaming roots..., NFS and GTA series'... Options

[blu94gt]

Ok so I've been reading some random things online and some of it bugs me. Even the game review writers are being ignorant about some of the facts and histories of games.

I hope you all know that Need for Speed Underground wasn't the first Need for Speed right? It's actually like the 7th, and the origin of the series was to make a fairly realistic game rather than an arcade-style one. And that the 3 PS2 Grand Theft Auto games were each based off of a city in the original GTA?

all pretty trivial stuff but it just bugs me that people don't know some of this stuff

[FAQdaWorld]

I think that gaming is becoming too much of a pop culture thing now. All the most recent games I've played lately SUCK. That includes Halo 2, Half Life 2, Doom, etc. The only game i've enjoyed of late was gta: sa. I'm getting tired of playing some of the same things over and over again, at least rockstar continually mixes it up now and then.

[darksecret]

I still have a copy of GTA2 for the PSone and Need for Speed 3 for the PC. I even have the original Warcraft some where. My opinion on gaming I am more into FPS and racing games now, since the RTS genre is thinned out to only a few decent titles, I remember when Starcraft, Warcraft, Total Annihilation and Red Alert were the s***. I like the advancements in FPS but it is starting to lag a little, the new game Black is suppose to revolutionize the FPS genre by making the bullet damage more realistic, like being able to shoot the s*** out of the floor and drop to the next level like in Underworld or being able to put a bullet from a high powered weapon through the wall and kill an enemy.

[Supersprynt]

I think that gaming is becoming too much of a pop culture thing now. All the most recent games I've played lately SUCK. That includes Halo 2, Half Life 2, Doom, etc. The only game i've enjoyed of late was gta: sa. I'm getting tired of playing some of the same things over and over again, at least rockstar continually mixes it up now and then.
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video games have always been pop culture.

and the GTA series is the same thing, just bigger each game.

[blu94gt]

I still have a copy of GTA2 for the PSone and Need for Speed 3 for the PC. I even have the original Warcraft some where. My opinion on gaming I am more into FPS and racing games now, since the RTS genre is thinned out to only a few decent titles, I remember when Starcraft, Warcraft, Total Annihilation and Red Alert were the s***. I like the advancements in FPS but it is starting to lag a little, the new game Black is suppose to revolutionize the FPS genre by making the bullet damage more realistic, like being able to shoot the s*** out of the floor and drop to the next level like in Underworld or being able to put a bullet from a high powered weapon through the wall and kill an enemy.
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I totally am with you about Red Alert and all the RTS games, there just are no good ones out lately. I have Warcraft 3 but that seems to get old after like 20 minutes. I mostly play RPG's and racing games anymore, and not even that often bc it's hard to find a good game. Hopefully Advent Rising will be pretty cool.

[Akimbo]

me and my buddy still LAN Red Alert 2.

[macavely]

well for ya'll that know your history do u know what NES game GTA was based off of ?

[darksecret]

I know Ryu in DOA is based on the Ninja Gaiden character, lol. I've heard the answer before but I can't remember, Ninja Turtles?

[BlackSTX]

well for ya'll that know your history do u know what NES game GTA was based off of ?
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I don't know the answer to that but have you ever played F-1 Built to Win on the NES?

[macavely]

na never plaed that one... but have u ever plaed manico GP for genises ?

[tomazws]

I still play StarCraft. And that game's been out since 97' or 98'.... If you go on StarCraft Battle.net you could still find SH!T LOAD of peeps playing against each other. Seems like the newer game can't really replace it......

[SoundSlut_dotcom]

Ok so I've been reading some random things online and some of it bugs me.  Even the game review writers are being ignorant about some of the facts and histories of games. 

I hope you all know that Need for Speed Underground wasn't the first Need for Speed right?  It's actually like the 7th, and the origin of the series was to make a fairly realistic game rather than an arcade-style one.  And that the 3 PS2 Grand Theft Auto games were each based off of a city in the original GTA? 

all pretty trivial stuff but it just bugs me that people don't know some of this stuff 
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duh lol wat are u 12, u dont know nothing about roots son
atari kid

[Kadett]

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas

[darksecret]

Atari lol, that is definitely roots and also has one of the worst games ever made, E.T.

[blkGT]

I still have a copy of GTA2 for the PSone and Need for Speed 3 for the PC. I even have the original Warcraft some where. My opinion on gaming I am more into FPS and racing games now, since the RTS genre is thinned out to only a few decent titles, I remember when Starcraft, Warcraft, Total Annihilation and Red Alert were the s***. I like the advancements in FPS but it is starting to lag a little, the new game Black is suppose to revolutionize the FPS genre by making the bullet damage more realistic, like being able to shoot the s*** out of the floor and drop to the next level like in Underworld or being able to put a bullet from a high powered weapon through the wall and kill an enemy.
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warcraft one sucked... imo warcraft 2 was in a league of its own. i wish it were still on msn zone. that game rocks my socks..

ryan didnt u challenge me? i say we play sometime.

[OSIRIS]

bah, you kids and your new fangled games.
If you want gaming roots then you should have been round in 19dickedy, back then we played paddle-pong with a huge console type thing that couldnt do anything but paddle-pong..... i bet you want colour too

[blu94gt]

Ok so I've been reading some random things online and some of it bugs me.  Even the game review writers are being ignorant about some of the facts and histories of games. 

I hope you all know that Need for Speed Underground wasn't the first Need for Speed right?  It's actually like the 7th, and the origin of the series was to make a fairly realistic game rather than an arcade-style one.  And that the 3 PS2 Grand Theft Auto games were each based off of a city in the original GTA? 

all pretty trivial stuff but it just bugs me that people don't know some of this stuff 
[right][snapback]299965[/snapback][/right]

duh lol wat are u 12, u dont know nothing about roots son
atari kid
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lol no I'm 20, and I have an atari 2600 lol Joust and River Raid rock on it

[WannabeGT4]

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
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[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?

[pr_caralho]

nah bro the colecovision hahahaha, but seriously theres to many games out there made by too many companies and at least 50 percent of them are either alike or crap, To me the best video game developers are nintendo, cause they can make anything into something real good... systems like xbox, to me its like there trying too hard to beaT sony.... but seriously no game revolutionizes games like mario 1 did cmon...

[darksecret]

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
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[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?
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Because those systems sucked.

[BlackSTX]

Commodore 64 rules them all!

[SoundSlut_dotcom]

Atari lol, that is definitely roots and also has one of the worst games ever made, E.T.
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ET made no sense to me , that **** was hard as hell lol

[SoundSlut_dotcom]

best game out rite now : SOCOM 2 for ps2

[WannabeGT4]

nah bro the colecovision hahahaha, but seriously theres to many games out there made by too many companies and at least 50 percent of them are either alike or crap, To me the best video game developers are nintendo, cause they can make anything into something real good... systems like xbox, to me its like there trying too hard to beaT  sony.... but seriously no game revolutionizes games like mario 1 did cmon...
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I thought this was about knowing your roots? Do you know where we'd be without the Magnavox Odyssey? Do you remember the phenomenon we know as PONG? What about Splatterhouse for TurboGrafx16. Both revolutionized video games. PONG introduced kids to video games and believe it or not those kids are responsible for the games we play today. Splatterhouse was one of the most controversial violent game to exist and to be honest, without it I think we'd all be playing the 18th sequel to Strawberry Shortcake from the Atari 2600.

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
[right][snapback]300538[/snapback][/right]

[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?
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Because those systems sucked.
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Did you even read the Title of this Topic? Can you tell me why each one sucked?

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 18, 2005 - 6:58 AM

[darksecret]

Yeah I read it I was the third to respond, well the TurboGrafx16 (basically a Genisis, same with the MS) wasn't that bad, nor the Master System, but the Calecovision come on, it had Amazing Bumpman and Skiing as hit games. BTW here is a good candidate for the worst roots system: Panasonic CD-i, inovative but terrible.

This post has been edited by darksecret: Jun 18, 2005 - 2:01 PM

[pr_caralho]

nah bro the colecovision hahahaha, but seriously theres to many games out there made by too many companies and at least 50 percent of them are either alike or crap, To me the best video game developers are nintendo, cause they can make anything into something real good... systems like xbox, to me its like there trying too hard to beaT  sony.... but seriously no game revolutionizes games like mario 1 did cmon...
[right][snapback]300831[/snapback][/right]

I thought this was about knowing your roots? Do you know where we'd be without the Magnavox Odyssey? Do you remember the phenomenon we know as PONG? What about Splatterhouse for TurboGrafx16. Both revolutionized video games. PONG introduced kids to video games and believe it or not those kids are responsible for the games we play today. Splatterhouse was one of the most controversial violent game to exist and to be honest, without it I think we'd all be playing the 18th sequel to Strawberry Shortcake from the Atari 2600.

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
[right][snapback]300538[/snapback][/right]

[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?
[right][snapback]300816[/snapback][/right]

Because those systems sucked.
[right][snapback]300833[/snapback][/right]

Did you even read the Title of this Topic? Can you tell me why each one sucked?
[right][snapback]300899[/snapback][/right]

If it wasnt for nintendo and mario 1 we pretty much wouldnt have games right now... And yes i know what the title says, and im just expressing my feelings twords games and how they evolved....

[Kadett]

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
[right][snapback]300538[/snapback][/right]

[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?
[right][snapback]300816[/snapback][/right]

What do you mean not possible?! I'm a hardcore gamer i think. Playing about 15-20 hours a week. But do that most of the time in a Clan of Desert Combat/Battlefield 2. Anyhow if you know my history you knew i only have the car for 5 months now. And yes i do game a lot less. But that has more the do with the facts thats its summer and less with the fact i have a 6GC

[WannabeGT4]

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
[right][snapback]300538[/snapback][/right]

[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?
[right][snapback]300816[/snapback][/right]

What do you mean not possible?! I'm a hardcore gamer i think. Playing about 15-20 hours a week. But do that most of the time in a Clan of Desert Combat/Battlefield 2. Anyhow if you know my history you knew i only have the car for 5 months now. And yes i do game a lot less. But that has more the do with the facts thats its summer and less with the fact i have a 6GC
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Umm, I meant it's not possible for you to be a VIRGIN when you own a 6GC. LOL, maybe I was wrong.

[WannabeGT4]

nah bro the colecovision hahahaha, but seriously theres to many games out there made by too many companies and at least 50 percent of them are either alike or crap, To me the best video game developers are nintendo, cause they can make anything into something real good... systems like xbox, to me its like there trying too hard to beaT  sony.... but seriously no game revolutionizes games like mario 1 did cmon...
[right][snapback]300831[/snapback][/right]

I thought this was about knowing your roots? Do you know where we'd be without the Magnavox Odyssey? Do you remember the phenomenon we know as PONG? What about Splatterhouse for TurboGrafx16. Both revolutionized video games. PONG introduced kids to video games and believe it or not those kids are responsible for the games we play today. Splatterhouse was one of the most controversial violent game to exist and to be honest, without it I think we'd all be playing the 18th sequel to Strawberry Shortcake from the Atari 2600.

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
[right][snapback]300538[/snapback][/right]

[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?
[right][snapback]300816[/snapback][/right]

Because those systems sucked.
[right][snapback]300833[/snapback][/right]

Did you even read the Title of this Topic? Can you tell me why each one sucked?
[right][snapback]300899[/snapback][/right]

If it wasnt for nintendo and mario 1 we pretty much wouldnt have games right now... And yes i know what the title says, and im just expressing my feelings twords games and how they evolved....
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No. If it wasn't for PONG we wouldn't have video games right now. I agree Nintendo sped things up a bit but if they didn't do it someone else would. Sega or Sony perhaps. It was inevitable. Games will continue to advance and evolve. right along with technology.

You spelled towards wrong.

[pr_caralho]

Game companies kinda went bankrupt because games werent selling well, and believe it or not were loosing intrest from custemers, but wen nintendo came out with there nes and mario 1, the video game market boomed, thats what i heard on g4's icons hehe

oh and should I consider you the spell check NAZI?

This post has been edited by pr_caralho: Jun 19, 2005 - 9:55 AM

[WannabeGT4]

Game companies kinda went bankrupt because games werent selling well, and believe it or not were loosing intrest from custemers, but wen nintendo came out with there nes and mario 1, the video game market boomed, thats what i heard on g4's icons hehe

oh and should I consider you the spell check NAZI?
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It was just a matter of time before a company introduced a new system. People love new things and nintendo was it. They just filled a void. They didn't start a revolution.

LOL I'm not a NAZI, just trying to inform you.

loosing=losing
intrest=interest
custemers=customers
wen=when

It's OK english must be your second language. I understand.

[bloodrain]

Final Fantasy Series. 1,2,3 on SNES and 7,8,9 on PSX 10,10-2 on PS2

Just finished Final Fantasy VII for the 35th time!!!!!!!!!!!! Along with Battlefield 1942+DC my longest playing time of games!

BTW: I played All the NFS games, and since Underground it has gone downhill im afraid. GTA played 1,3,Vice City and San Andreas
[right][snapback]300538[/snapback][/right]

[teacher voice]
OK kids. Today we're going to learn to spell a new word. The word for today is virgin. K A D E T T spells virgin.
[/teacher voice]

LOL! J/P We all know that's not possible when you own a 6GC! I've had my fair share of video games too. Hell I even worked at a game store for about a year!

Talk about not knowing your roots. Why has there been no mention of the Master System, ColecoVision, Magnavox Odyssey, or the TurboGrafx16?
[right][snapback]300816[/snapback][/right]

lol, well, if u own a 6gc and a ps2, just play your games while driving, duh, lol.

[pr_caralho]

Game companies kinda went bankrupt because games werent selling well, and believe it or not were loosing intrest from custemers, but wen nintendo came out with there nes and mario 1, the video game market boomed, thats what i heard on g4's icons hehe

oh and should I consider you the spell check NAZI?
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It was just a matter of time before a company introduced a new system. People love new things and nintendo was it. They just filled a void. They didn't start a revolution.

LOL I'm not a NAZI, just trying to inform you.

loosing=losing
intrest=interest
custemers=customers
wen=when

It's OK english must be your second language. I understand.
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But no one cares about spell checking when it comes to forums, its not like im writing a report or anything..... And yes it was a matter of time before someone would introduce a console, and nintendo was it, nobody seen anything like super mario bro. 1, it was fresh and obviously made a huge impact on game developers influences.... therefore sparking a new generation of games thus revolutionizing.....

This post has been edited by pr_caralho: Jun 19, 2005 - 1:24 PM

[WannabeGT4]

Game companies kinda went bankrupt because games werent selling well, and believe it or not were loosing intrest from custemers, but wen nintendo came out with there nes and mario 1, the video game market boomed, thats what i heard on g4's icons hehe

oh and should I consider you the spell check NAZI?
[right][snapback]301226[/snapback][/right]

It was just a matter of time before a company introduced a new system. People love new things and nintendo was it. They just filled a void. They didn't start a revolution.

LOL I'm not a NAZI, just trying to inform you.

loosing=losing
intrest=interest
custemers=customers
wen=when

It's OK english must be your second language. I understand.
[right][snapback]301237[/snapback][/right]

But no one cares about spell checking when it comes to forums, its not like im writing a report or anything..... And yes it was a matter of time before someone would introduce a console, and nintendo was it, nobody seen anything like super mario bro. 1, it was fresh and obviously made a huge impact on game developers influences.... therefore sparking a new generation of games thus revolutionizing.....
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LOL you missed the point. It didn't matter who it was that introduced the next system. The foundation that had been laid by Nintendo's predecessors was rock solid. The decline was due to a lack of new systems and games. You can only do so much with old technology.

How do you impact an influece?
You can impact a developer but their influence is all their own.

How do you kinda go bankrupt?
either you are or you aren't.

This post has been edited by WannabeGT4: Jun 19, 2005 - 1:57 PM

[darksecret]

IMO Nintendo gets so much credit because they invented the backgroud (ok, I know some Atari games had backgrounds, but you usually couldn't tell what they were) Nintendo kind of opened up the gaming market due to the high graphics of it's time, a major step from Atari, kind of like the Playstation from the Genesis. I personally think nothing can really out do a PC as far as power and you can upgrade at will, unlike a console, but also unlike a console it's not hard slapping a few thousand a year doing it, the PC advances faster than the games developed for it. I need an opinion of Dawn of War, I would have bought it but I splurged to much on a flat screen TV.

[BlackSTX]

LOL you missed the point. It didn't matter who it was that introduced the next system. The foundation that had been laid by Nintendo's predecessors was rock solid. The decline was due to a lack of new systems and games. You can only do so much with old technology.

How do you impact an influece?
You can impact a developer but their influence is all their own.

How do you kinda go bankrupt?
either you are or you aren't.
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No, the founation was weak because the atari 2600 was a bust. People were throwing those things away because no one wanted them. You couldn't even pay someone to take it. They rounded up millions of cartridges and blew them up in the desert. I know that sounds dumb, but it's true. The industry was dead until Nintendo and Mario came out. They single-handedly revitalized the industry and made it what it is today. Sega had the Master System, but it only had like 5% market share. I still think the Commodore 64 rules, because it was the first 8-bit computer ever and it came out in the early 80's, long before the NES.

[pr_caralho]

LOL you missed the point. It didn't matter who it was that introduced the next system. The foundation that had been laid by Nintendo's predecessors was rock solid. The decline was due to a lack of new systems and games. You can only do so much with old technology.

How do you impact an influece?
You can impact a developer but their influence is all their own.

How do you kinda go bankrupt?
either you are or you aren't.
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No, the founation was weak because the atari 2600 was a bust. People were throwing those things away because no one wanted them. You couldn't even pay someone to take it. They rounded up millions of cartridges and blew them up in the desert. I know that sounds dumb, but it's true. The industry was dead until Nintendo and Mario came out. They single-handedly revitalized the industry and made it what it is today. Sega had the Master System, but it only had like 5% market share. I still think the Commodore 64 rules, because it was the first 8-bit computer ever and it came out in the early 80's, long before the NES.
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Thats what im trying to say, thanks BlackSTX, ok ok maybe they didnt revolutionize, but what BlackSTX said about revitalizing that market is dead on, thanks to Nintendo games are what they are today, you could sort of say their the godfathers of video games.

and for my grammer, i post after work, and im tired and i work outside in the hot weather, so bare with me