Power Steering Pump Options

[Rjb23]

Did anyone else have to remove their power steering pump to get their 3s to fit right?

I had to remove mine because the pulley was hitting on my frame, I'm using the e153 tranny, the mr2 driverside, the GT front, and passenger and I plan on using the st205 rear.

[ems3s]

Did anyone else have to remove their power steering pump to get their 3s to fit right?

I had to remove mine because the pulley was hitting on my frame,  I'm using the e153 tranny, the mr2 driverside, the GT front, and passenger and I plan on using the st205 rear.
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You shouldn't have to remove the PS to get it to line up. When you lower the engine into the bay you have to tilt it to one side, so the tranny side is lower and sits beneath the left mount bracket on the frame, then bring the other side down to line up with the other mount. I had the same problem when pulling out my 5s.

I found that the mr2 driverside gearbox mount doesn't work with the braket on the frame. It looks like it does but it actually doesn't unfortunately. You may get away with using the GT tranny mount but I used a second hand 205 bracket on the box with new 205 rubber mount.

The gt front mount and bracket are fine as they're identical to the 205 parts but for some reason they have different part no's. You definitely need that 205 rear mount and bracket, to make it work.


Keep up the good work and don't listen to anyone who hasn't completed the swap themselves. Its cost me $$$ in bull crap advice and info.

[Rjb23]

I didn't lower the engine in I lifted it from the bottom.

Why wouldn't the mr2 mount fit? It actually fit for me but I don't know it may be to long, as in pushing it to far to the passenger side. I know celica3sgte is using the same set up I am.

Do you have the part # for the st205 rear insulator?

[ems3s]

The mr2 mount is very close to fitting but I found that I spread the bracket on the frame a further 1/3 inch to make it just sit. When i tried this mount with gt front and 205 rear mounts it was putting the engine to far to the left and didn't line up.

I think that these are the part no's 1237174440 and 1237274500 for the rear mount and bracket both are needed. The insulator is offest to the left and the bracket is different too. I may be wrong about the part no's as I have a heap of receipts but can't remember what's what now. So please verify with your local toyota spare parts dealer.


I tried all sorts of combos but after spending lots on the wrong parts I ended up using

Gt front insulator and bracket (identical to 205 but diffirent part no's)
205 rear insulator and bracket
205 left side insulator and tranny bracket (bracket no longer available from toyota but possibly same as rav4 part)
Gt RH bracket and insulator. (indentical to 205)


Good Luck Let me know how you go.

[Rjb23]

Right I have the gt passenger side(right side), the gt front, the mr2 rear mount, I think all I need is the st205 rear, and mr2 bracket and insulator on the driverside, the st185 is the same as the mr2 tranny insulator. I may try the gt/st driverside insulator with the mr2 bracket.

Do you have a pic of the st205 rear bracket?

[ems3s]

Ok, the mr2 bracket will not fit with the 205 insulator on the rear. I tried this. Nor 205 bracket with mr2 insulator. You definitely need both 205 rear bracket and insulator. Period. Please save yourself the money and time get the rear 205 parts now!

I gave up on trying 185 parts as I wasted about $400AUS on crossmember, brackets and mounts that did not work at all.

The gt/st insulator has different bolt locations to the mr2 bracket, you may find that one or twobolts will work but not all three.
What would be worth a try would be left gt tranny bracket with 205 insulator. I have a feeling it would be close. (that 205 bracket is no longer avialable from toyota)

Unfortunately i don't have pics of the rear bracket on my car atm but take my word it is exactly what you need.

I'll take some pics this weekend when I jack up the car to install a new left inner shaft stub.

[Rjb23]

I think I am just going to go with a custom rear mount.

I see what you are talking about on the rear though. I think I circled the right ones, the ones in red are the rear mounts right? The one in blue is the driverside insulator, which is the driverside tranny mount? Or is it not on this pic.

As for trying st185 parts, I have them from my clip so its not a big deal to try em.

I looked at my st driverside insulator and it looks like it will line up with the mr2 tranny mount, but I'm going to try and find a gt bracket for the driverside to try that.

Also I got my axle today that I ordered, and they only sent me half the axle, they didnt' send the one part I need which is the end that bolts into the tranny. WTF@@!!, thats why I ordered the whole axle assembly.



This post has been edited by Rjb23: Sep 28, 2005 - 7:38 PM

[Defgeph]

Hrmm, something about that picture looks very similar to me.

[ems3s]

Yes those are the rear 205 mount and bracket in red. Why would you make custom mounts when you can have the 205 mounts for same price as 204 gt's. They're available by special order.

IMO with custom mounts you're not guranteed that they'll be at the correct location and angle. I personally would steer away form this but of course its up to you. Many people have made their own with success but its something I'm not a fan off.

I had the same problem with the axle thing. Got sent out the outer but no inner stub. When they finally found a stub it was an early model. I have since worked out what I need.

You can have the stubs from toyota USA for a reasonable price around US$140-170 landed.

[Rjb23]

I think I found a stubb.

The only reason I would go custom is the time factor. It takes 2 weeks to get a mount special order here. I plan on calling champion toyota tommorow and getting the rear mounts ordered. At least with 3 mounts in I can get everything else hooked up, and it running while I wait for the rear mount.

I switched out the mr2 driverside insulator for the st insulator, it bolted right up to the mr2 tranny mount. There isn't much difference in the mount besides the insulator being narrower, it having 3 bolts instead of 4 and it makes the tranny sit about a 1/4" higher. I think it lines up better too.

[Rjb23]

So I went to the junkyard today and found 6 celicas, 2 6gc gt's. I got all the mounts that I was waiting on from toyota, throttle cable, neg. battery cable that the guy lost. And also found 4 celicas that I can use for rear disc conversions.

So hopefully I get my car back together this weekend, my other axle will be here monday.

[Rjb23]

Can someone post the part # off their coil, and ignitor? I want to make sure the ones I have are not from my 7a, I'm pretty sure the ignitor I have is not, but not sure about the coil.

[jgreening]

Can someone post the part # off their coil, and ignitor? I want to make sure the ones I have are not from my 7a, I'm pretty sure the ignitor I have is not, but not sure about the coil.
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I thought the ignitor and coil are integrated in the 3sgte. In any event, you can call any Toyota parts department to get the part number.

[lagos]

you can use any celica ignitor and coil as long as its from the same year as your 3sgte. so make sure u get one out of a 5th gen.

[Rjb23]

Well I have one I think its from my clip I just wanted to make sure it was the right one.