 7afe/4age question, throttle bodies |
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 Oct 10, 2005 - 10:56 PM
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 Enthusiast  Joined May 24, '03 From Andrews TX Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%)  |
I have searched alot of the posts and still haven't found an answer yet--
can you use the individual throttle bodie setup off of the 4ag on the 7afe if you can have someone weld the aluminium flange off the 7afe to the 4ag throttle system. I want to do the complete head swap but I would really like to see what I can get out of the 7afe head with as an extreme of a P&P as I can get with the individual tb's and all the other mods I have(check my profile). This post has been edited by dans_st: Oct 10, 2005 - 10:58 PM -------------------- If anyone is missing NASCAR and it's not on Speed Channel, take a fistful of Skittles, throw them in the toilet and hit the flush handle. Instant NASCAR!!!
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Oct 11, 2005 - 10:59 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
QUOTE(dans_st @ Oct 10, 2005 - 8:56 PM) I have searched alot of the posts and still haven't found an answer yet-- can you use the individual throttle bodie setup off of the 4ag on the 7afe if you can have someone weld the aluminium flange off the 7afe to the 4ag throttle system. I want to do the complete head swap but I would really like to see what I can get out of the 7afe head with as an extreme of a P&P as I can get with the individual tb's and all the other mods I have(check my profile). [right][snapback]343224[/snapback][/right] i'm not going to answer your question but give you a few more things to think about ...... ok i answered a few 1. Arent you turbo? why do you want ITB's? 2. how are you going to control them and then tune them 3.the F head is not a performance head and when it gets alot of heat it losses alot of power i saw this on the dyno there are no cams available for the 7afe only welding and regrinding the stock ones but you only can adjust one cam because of the slave cam design 4. money wise if you want itb's get a 4ag head that comes with them 5. if you want more info go to club4ag.com you would be doing what those guys do to there blue and red top 4ag when they add ITB's This post has been edited by nik: Oct 11, 2005 - 11:16 AM -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Oct 11, 2005 - 11:07 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Milton, Delaware Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
:I'm with stupid ^:
j/k nik, i totally agree with him. If you're lookin for power dont bother w/ the fe head, ur totally shooting urself in the foot, for less cost you could prolly get the ge head set up pretty nice and it'll worth some extra power as well -FAQ -------------------- AIM : FAQdaWorld
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Oct 11, 2005 - 11:22 AM
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 Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE(nik @ Oct 11, 2005 - 8:59 AM) 1. Arent you turbo? why do you want ITB's? [right][snapback]343344[/snapback][/right] Wouldn't ITBs be desirable on any engine, including a turbocharged one, for better throttle response? Tuning would be harder from what I understand, but wouldn't that be the only downside? -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Oct 11, 2005 - 11:31 AM
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 Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(Coomer @ Oct 11, 2005 - 4:22 PM) QUOTE(nik @ Oct 11, 2005 - 8:59 AM) 1. Arent you turbo? why do you want ITB's? [right][snapback]343344[/snapback][/right] Wouldn't ITBs be desirable on any engine, including a turbocharged one, for better throttle response? Tuning would be harder from what I understand, but wouldn't that be the only downside? [right][snapback]343355[/snapback][/right] Although you are correct coomer... it depends highly on what a person wants. ITBs only make power when the engine revs high. Turbo cars don't need to rev high... so it depends on what you wanna do (gotta match it to a turbo, tune, etc...). I personally would NOT do ITBs on a 7AGTE (16V) or a 7AFTE... but I would definately do it on a 7AGTE (20V) or an n/a 7AGE (16V or 20V)... -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Oct 11, 2005 - 11:59 AM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
Gotcha...thanks for clearing that up.
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Oct 11, 2005 - 12:12 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
Heres a 20v turbo
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Oct 11, 2005 - 12:13 PM
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Administrator Joined Aug 23, '02 From Seattle, WA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
QUOTE(nik @ Oct 11, 2005 - 10:12 AM) Heres a 20v turbo [right][snapback]343368[/snapback][/right] Isn't that slownrusty's car? -------------------- New Toyota project coming soon...
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Oct 11, 2005 - 12:22 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
its the guy from club4ag his car is back on ebay starting at $9500
-------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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Oct 12, 2005 - 10:45 AM
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Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Andrews TX Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE 4. money wise if you want itb's get a 4ag head that comes with them I figured I would try and get the most power out of the 7AFE ,but if will really cost that much more than what it is worth and I can do the whole head swap cheap your right  ....i'll wait and do the whole head swap 
This post has been edited by dans_st: Oct 12, 2005 - 10:46 AM -------------------- If anyone is missing NASCAR and it's not on Speed Channel, take a fistful of Skittles, throw them in the toilet and hit the flush handle. Instant NASCAR!!!
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Oct 13, 2005 - 11:53 AM
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Enthusiast Joined Dec 27, '03 From Nor Cal Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(dans_st @ Oct 12, 2005 - 3:45 PM) QUOTE 4. money wise if you want itb's get a 4ag head that comes with them I figured I would try and get the most power out of the 7AFE ,but if will really cost that much more than what it is worth and I can do the whole head swap cheap your right ....i'll wait and do the whole head swap [right][snapback]343736[/snapback][/right] Well... if you need a head... I have a smallport head CHEAP! -------------------- "It's ok to be naked girl... I'm an artist!"
1995 AT200 Celica ST: stocked out daily driver... 1984 AE86 Corolla GT-SR5: silvertop 20V 4AGE project car jacked up with goodies... 1991 SW2x MR2 n/a: bare bones hardtop model soon to be... |
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Oct 13, 2005 - 4:25 PM
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Enthusiast Joined May 24, '03 From Andrews TX Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
how cheap PM me.
-------------------- If anyone is missing NASCAR and it's not on Speed Channel, take a fistful of Skittles, throw them in the toilet and hit the flush handle. Instant NASCAR!!!
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Oct 13, 2005 - 5:43 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 30, '02 From Washington Spokane / Coeur D' Alene Idaho Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
you'll need the following
head small/large port manifold intake header turbo/n pretty much a full top end with some sort of ems -------------------- yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
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