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post Oct 12, 2005 - 10:24 PM
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im trying to figure out what would push my rims out more so that they are flush with the body. i think my current rims are 40offset 7in wide. if i get a 25mm spacer, that will push them out about 1 inch.

now my other option is to get 17x8s with 35 offset. i used the offset calculator, and it tells me that the differece between the new rims and my old ones would only be 18mm
http://www.1010tires.com/WheelOffsetCalculator.asp

so, am i missing something here? the spacer would push the wheels out the most, right?


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post Oct 12, 2005 - 10:34 PM
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7" 40 offset with a 25mm spacer sticks out 7 mm more than 8" 35 offset and no spacer. This is a little more than a 1/4". The other thing to keep in mind is that wider rims and tires will give you better traction (all else being equal). You may notice a decrease in handling by having such a wide rim and tire in the front although I noticed no difference by going to 7.5" wide rims.

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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Oct 12, 2005 - 11:08 PM
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you see, what im really trying to do is to talk myself out of buying the oz superlaggeras that i really want..lol
the spacers cost about 250 shipped while the new rims will be 1500 or so. so if the spacers do the same thing i want, then im tempted to go that way... who knows. its good to know that i will get a wider stance from the spacers, somthing i didnt really realize before.


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post Oct 12, 2005 - 11:14 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 12, 2005 - 11:08 PM)
you see, what im really trying to do is to talk myself out of buying the oz superlaggeras that i really want..lol
the spacers cost about 250 shipped while the new rims will be 1500 or so. so if the spacers do the same thing i want, then im tempted to go that way... who knows. its good to know that i will get a wider stance from the spacers, somthing i didnt really realize before.
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I say dollar up. Everytime I have tried to cut a corner with my car I have been mad at myself later. Everytime I spent the money I have been pleased. With as much as we have invested now, I am sure we are both going to be keeping these babies for awhile.... biggrin.gif


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QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback]

i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Oct 12, 2005 - 11:32 PM
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do they make spacers that can change your lug pattern? I've always wanted to use lexus is300 rims on the celica.
post Oct 12, 2005 - 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(Hanyo @ Oct 12, 2005 - 11:32 PM)
do they make spacers that can change your lug pattern? I've always wanted to use lexus is300 rims on the celica.
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yes they do


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post Oct 13, 2005 - 7:48 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 12, 2005 - 11:33 PM)
QUOTE(Hanyo @ Oct 12, 2005 - 11:32 PM)
do they make spacers that can change your lug pattern? I've always wanted to use lexus is300 rims on the celica.
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yes they do
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How safe are those? also how large of a wheel could you fit? Cause i have my after market bbs style bmw wheels that have brand new tread, i havnt been able to sell.
post Oct 13, 2005 - 9:42 AM
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I always wanted to show this pic to Lagos. So here you go its 17x8 with 35 offset vs 17X7

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post Oct 13, 2005 - 10:21 AM
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i have 18x8 with eibach pro's and they sit flush with the car but if you want performance go 17X8 the best of both worlds

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yea your 3sgte is cool but ill stick to my 7agte
post Oct 13, 2005 - 10:28 AM
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thats a cool pic TTE, the car on the right is mine, and yours is on the left with the rims i want to buy.


Digndoug, the spacers i want to buy work in the same way as the ones that change your bolt pattern to. i talked to at least 3 celica guys that have that type of spacer and report not issues with them at all.


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post Oct 13, 2005 - 10:55 AM
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lagos you've seen my rims and offset pretty even on the stock body...

but wat spacers are you looking at cause i'm contemplating spacers for both my cars....thinking h&r should be reliable and safe
post Oct 13, 2005 - 11:13 AM
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h&R 25mm. they sell for 120$ for one pair on optauto.com one guy on this site said he has had his on for over 2 years with no problems at all


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post Oct 13, 2005 - 11:14 AM
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good stuff but i think i'll need more then an inch wink.gif
post Oct 13, 2005 - 11:18 AM
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your out of luck then... they dont make anything more then 25mm


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post Oct 17, 2005 - 9:47 PM
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shouldn't Art's 3sgte be able to spin 18's without a problem?


I mean, look at the 350z they use 18" rims stock.
post Oct 17, 2005 - 9:54 PM
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it spins my 17s in 1st and 2nd gear, and i can spin 3rd in the rain ...lol


the 350z comes with stock 17s


i dont want 18s cause that means ill have to run a thinner tire. i want 225-45s for ride quality

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post Oct 18, 2005 - 10:19 PM
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er... just wondering.. from the pics... it looks like if the tire is flush with the body, if you go over a bump or a crack in the road, the tire might hit the fender? or is this not true?


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post Oct 18, 2005 - 10:42 PM
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Not in my case (white car)
post Oct 18, 2005 - 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(TTE @ Oct 18, 2005 - 11:42 PM)
Not in my case (white car)
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so ur wheel isn't exactly align with the car then right? like it's a little bit behind it to prevent hitting the edge?


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post Oct 18, 2005 - 10:57 PM
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if u see it in person, youll noticed that my wheels look very push in . every celica with rims has this issue cause we have such wide bodies compared to other cars.

i dont want my wheels pushed out too far, just about 1in out more then they are right now.


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post Oct 18, 2005 - 11:08 PM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 18, 2005 - 11:57 PM)
if u see it in person, youll noticed that my wheels look very push in . every celica with rims has this issue cause we have such wide bodies compared to other cars.

i dont want my wheels pushed out too far, just about 1in out more then they are right now.
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icic. i thought you wanted it flush with the car...

so i guess "flush" with the car isn't exactly flush.. it's a little bit pushed in still?


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post Oct 19, 2005 - 12:01 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Oct 18, 2005 - 9:57 PM)
if u see it in person, youll noticed that my wheels look very push in . every celica with rims has this issue cause we have such wide bodies compared to other cars.

i dont want my wheels pushed out too far, just about 1in out more then they are right now.
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so true, 6g's have a wide rear end. if you have the money, id go with the oz's smile.gif superleggeras look awesome


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post Oct 19, 2005 - 12:52 AM
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yeah, i dont mean perfctly flush, but as close as i can get it. TTEs car is great example of the look im going for

http://www.6gc.net/photo.php?file=/images/...eferer_itu=1356


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post Oct 20, 2005 - 6:10 PM
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My rims are 18x8 and they sit pretty flush with the car, here's a pic. And does anyone else have nitrogen in there tires? My dads a mechanic at Jensen tire, has been for 30 years and said that somehow it gives you better ride, and better gas milage. I tried with reg. air and then put nitrogen into my tires and it makes a big diff.
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Sorry such a big picture, didn't know

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post Oct 21, 2005 - 2:11 AM
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ummm big difference?, you have got to be kidding me. both dry air and dry nitrogen are essentially going to behave very similarly. one proposed benefit of nitrogen inflation is reduced oxidation of the tire from the inside, and n2 is a larger molecule than o2 and therfore it will diffuse through the casing more slowly. however, most people replace tires due to thread life WAY before any significant oxidation, and the relative diffusion rates between air (which is compsed of 78% N2 volumetrically) and pure N2 is neglible compared to leaking at the valve. better ride and mileage, im sorry but that just makes no sense whatsoever and is more likely a pschological improvement. nice wheels by the way smile.gif

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post Oct 21, 2005 - 4:54 PM
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Don't honestly know really. I do know when i had my stock rims and tires on. I drove and got 28 MPG and then i got my rims and tires and drove to a small town 200 miles from here. I drove there and back with a half tank of gas. got 30 MPG. Also was told by people at my dads work. (idiots) but anywho all i know is that it rides a lot smoother then with reg air.


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