HKS Style SSQV KnockOff, Opinions? Options

[BBoYRuGGeD]

Whats up guys...from those who have and have tried these HKS SSQV style BOV's (dan i think ur FOR it right?) how do u like 'em? think theyre as good as the real thing? id get the real thing but i wouldnt wunna pay for something that i can get a same exact copy of that works the same way for a fraction of the price.

bboy

[RUNNIN-LOW]

yeah the knock off is the same thing as the real hks my buddy had one and it sound the same.same nice ass turbo sound..whooooooooooooooooosh!!!!!!!!!comparing the hks real and the fake there all made the same...its just that when someone come and take a real look at your boc they just wont see the hks and say your a fake..

[BBoYRuGGeD]

thnx for ur reply...and nah i really wouldnt care what anyone would say if they saw it was a knockoff. im a firm believer in quality over name... anyone else got any experience with these things?

bboy

[nik]

If its mechinically identical to the real one i would get the fake same product for less money

but i like greddy the new RS baby

[playr158]

it works really well and if you want i have a video clip

hold on i'll post in a sec.

[playr158]

me at 1/2 stock boost aka 5 psi

http://www.gmu.edu/departments/provost/devlp/MOV03062.MPG

[BBoYRuGGeD]

oh damn that does sound nice...too bad when i get it i wont have the sound since i gutta make it into a bypass valve...lol damn afm! whats ur guys thoughts about these ssqv BOVs VS. the traditional spring types which i heard wears out in time?

thnx for the clip dan

bboy

[lagos]

oh damn that does sound nice...too bad when i get it i wont have the sound since i gutta make it into a bypass valve...lol damn afm!  whats ur guys thoughts about these ssqv BOVs VS. the traditional spring types which i heard wears out in time?

thnx for the clip dan 

bboy
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i have the real hks and i run it vented, so i get the sound and everything. the problem with running it vented is that youll sometimes bog down just a bit between shifs. i mostly notice it on part throttle shifts, if that makes sense. its not a huge problem tho, and ive been running it that way for over a year now.

the hks, or fake hks is probably the most responsive bov u can buy.

[Supersprynt]

Ditto and I havent noticed any bogging.

[celicast3sgte]

I have the greddy RS older style and it came from a 23psi IS300 it was so loud it hurt your ears if u had the hood popped.. Im selling it to my cousin though because i like the HKS better.

[BBoYRuGGeD]

ah i see...thnx for the input guys! i think im gunna grab the hks style ssqv now after i do a lil messing around with my intake

bboy

[Hardy]

I think the SSQV is just a bit too expensive considering that it CAN look ugly after some time. I've seen it on a Supra MA70 I think and there were traces of oxidation.
But I bought one anyway because I'm convinced of the twin valve concept, because it looks nice and because I don't like cheap copies / fakes.

This post has been edited by Hardy: Nov 14, 2005 - 6:27 AM

[BBoYRuGGeD]

I think the SSQV is just a bit too expensive considering that it CAN look ugly after some time. I've seen it on a Supra MA70 I think and there were traces of oxidation.
But I bought one anyway because I'm convinced of the twin valve concept, because it looks nice and because I don't like cheap copies / fakes.

i ended up buying a real brand new one also...LOL but i got a real good price on it

bboy

[yungazzdriver]

i might believe like maybe if your lucky you'll get a good one but chances is that youll get a defective actually i believe super street just did an article on this! and they explain how some people have gotten blow off valves that wont open and blew someones motor. and others whos open up too much and let boost out excessively .........so yes you might get a working one like players but dont be surprised to find a messed up valve.

[lagos]

i might believe like maybe if your lucky you'll get a good one but chances is that youll get a defective actually i believe super street just did an article on this! and they explain how some people have gotten blow off valves that wont open and blew someones motor. and others whos open up too much and let boost out excessively .........so yes you might get a working one like players but dont be surprised to find a messed up valve.

lol, there is no way that a defective bov can blow your motor!

[BBoYRuGGeD]

wow BOVs that dont open can blow peoples' motors?!? lol nah i doubt this. the only thing that'll happen if the valve doesnt open is that u'll get some turbo killing surge and that in turn will rip apart the compressor blades (assuming the force is great enough to do so)...and if the shrapnel enters the motor then boom! ... wait so i guess crappy BOVs can blow engines! lol only if this situation happens tho

im guessing this is what happened in the article you are speaking off

bboy

This post has been edited by BBoYRuGGeD: Nov 15, 2005 - 4:46 PM

[celicast3sgte]

if you dont have experience in it try not to post about it...



... Do as I say not as I do ...

[macavely]

Roel listen to your boy ... DON"T get the knockoff..... trust me when i tell you don't get it..... its not the same thing as the originaly ... on the outside it looks the same on the inside its like night and day .... the knock off's are cheap for a reason .. cause the internals just don't have the same performance as the real thing... you can get luck and have one that works fine with no problem .. but the damage that you can get from a knockoff (with no company warranty) is not worth it..... Get the real thing .. it will save you alot more money in the long run.... and come by my house and i'll show you some pics of what a ebay BOV can lead to.

edit;;;; didn't see your post on you getting a real one .. so never mind.... call me up when you get it installed..

This post has been edited by macavely: Nov 16, 2005 - 5:00 AM

[Dr_Tweak]

Since the stock 3SGTE on the alltrac (the engine you have) doesn't have a BPV, and the worst thing that a BOV can do is not open, then you don't have much to worry about.

That said, the knockoff is not the same level of quality as the real thing. I'm glad you got the real one.

By the way, you'll still hear it a little bit even with it routed back into the intake.

-Doc

This post has been edited by Dr_Tweak: Nov 16, 2005 - 6:51 AM

[BBoYRuGGeD]

Since the stock 3SGTE on the alltrac (the engine you have) doesn't have a BPV, and the worst thing that a BOV can do is not open, then you don't have much to worry about.

That said, the knockoff is not the same level of quality as the real thing. I'm glad you got the real one.

By the way, you'll still hear it a little bit even with it routed back into the intake.

-Doc

yah i been thinking of this for awhile. the alltracs got no bpv but the mr2t with the same engine does. im thinking it has something to do with the alltrac being tmic and the mr2t being smic (which will have longer piping). maybe the turbo surge is worse with longer piping, smic and fmic, than with short tmic piping. cuz ive gotten rides on alltracs with no bpv and i dont hear the same surge on their car as oppose to my car when boosting. and yah im damn glad i got to buy a real brand new HKS SSQV..which should be coming in a day or 2!!!

bboy

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

I was reading Modified Mag tonight and they actually had a whole section on knockoff parts comparing them to the real thing. They even talked about the knockoff SSQV, and gave PLENTY of reasons not to use it after inspecting both pieces carefully. The key components just aren' built the same.

I would always stick to the real thing with our cars....chances are its usually a much better product and less harmful to your engine in some cases, and if anything goes wrong there is usually a warranty on a name brand product or at least good factory support. Can't say the same for a knockoff.

Good choice Bboy. BTW, Can't wait to see the car sometime!

[BBoYRuGGeD]

just got my HKS SSQV in the mail yesterday night...and comparing it to the knockoff it feels alot lighter. must be the material! oohh so shiny!

where do the rest of u 3SGTE guys run the little vac hose on the back of the BOV? and anyone with the recirculation fitting? does the hose HAVE to be 1 inch diameter (recirculation adapter is 1 inch) cuz i dont think i wunna drill a 1 inch hole in my intake

bboy

[lagos]

Tee off from the map sensor for the vac line


yeah the recirc adaptor is ment for you to hook up a 1in rubber hose to it and then somehow run it to the intake piping. i have the recirc adaptor on my bov, but its not running to the intake piping, yet.

This post has been edited by lagos: Nov 20, 2005 - 12:11 AM

[BBoYRuGGeD]

thnx lagos! yah just spoke with doc tweak and he recommends drilling a 1 inch hole in my intake...DOH lol how r u planning to route it back to ur intake?

bboy

[lagos]

you cant just drill a hole. you need to have a short pipe welded on there so that you can fit a 1in hose over it. remember all that stuff has to be air tight. your car will not run right there is even a small air leak there.

for mine, i was going to buy a straight intake pipe and weld all the connections on there that i need.

[lagos]

another option is to use the intake piping from an mr2turbo. that has all the connections for recirculating the bov and the 2 pcv lines. i tired that, but it wouldnt really work right for me because my ic piping gets in the way

[Dr_Tweak]

you cant just drill a hole. you need to have a short pipe welded on there so that you can fit a 1in hose over it. remember all that stuff has to be air tight. your car will not run right there is even a small air leak there.

Word. Of course your piping is aluminum, which most people can weld. That said, if you're on a budget, you can get yourself a 1" tube, cut it down, drill a 1" hole in the intake, put the tube in there, and JB Weld it in place. (Yes, I said JB Weld). Or use epoxy. It will hold fine, be airtight, and since the hose will be over it anyway, it won't show.

-Doc