How to adjust rear camber? Options

[Tony-94]

I noticed one of my rear wheels has noticably more negative camber than the other side. I've heard the rear camber IS adjustable with our cars but looking under the car I can't see what is supposed to be adjusted.
I want to do this myself until I have the time to get it professionally aligned.
What should I be looking to adjust?

thanks.

[LewFX]

the top big bolt on the struts bottom thats like a 19mm

[Tony-94]

You mean this one?

[LewFX]

ya the top strut assembly bolt, one side makes it positive, turn it around for negative. at least thats what ive been told, or pay 40-80 bucks for a 2 or 4 wheel alignment, make sure its computerized and you get a copy of the printout.

This post has been edited by LewFX: Dec 22, 2005 - 10:08 AM

[Tony-94]

Do you mean take it out and slot it in the other way round? Adjusting the bolt doesn't really effect the camber - there is only a small amount of play.

[S_C_M]

You should be able to buy some "crash bolts" from Toyota that will allow for camber adjustment pretty inexpensively. I notice people on here stating there is some rear camber adjustment stock, but the older Hunter 4-wheel rack I used to have access to did not list any rear camber adjustability. The info is probably on the forum somewhere.

*edit* Found a thread with some part numbers that might help, if you need 'em.
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=23750&hl=

This post has been edited by S_C_M: Dec 23, 2005 - 3:56 AM

[Tony-94]

Good find S_C_M
Looks like they will do the trick

[trdproven]

Not sure how changing out the top bolt allows for camber adjustment, just looks like it replaces the bolt.

[playr158]

Not sure how changing out the top bolt allows for camber adjustment, just looks like it replaces the bolt.

holy 4 year old thread.
good job on using the search function.
replacing the top bolt with the thinner new bolts allows you to push the top in/out very slightly, which gives you some camber adjustment

[trdproven]

4yr old thread but always needed info. haha. best to use this info since its what I wanted to know about instead of creating a new thread without any reference. So does this give more camber adjustment only because the bolt is skinnier? Not sure if I want that much play in the suspension even if its a little. How much camber difference can it give compared to alignment?

[playr158]

its not compared to an alignment, its an additional tool used in an alignment.
i believe you achieve more camber by its skinnier so that the knuckle can tilt some, but it should still be secure w/o movable play since its a clamping force.
I'm not 100% on these as i don't have 1st hand experience with them

[trdproven]

thanks...I just think the skinnier bolts even though tightened tend to flinch little by little every time you hit a bump not making it secure enough. eventually, it wont be the same angle anymore as when it becomes first installed. Anyone who have them here have any input? Besides that, the bolts wouldn't even provide enough adjustment anyways. My question is what is there for our cars that is true camber kit correction.

This post has been edited by trdproven: Mar 5, 2009 - 12:46 AM

[ILoveMySilly97]

Can someone answer trdproven's question?

[Tigawoods]

adjustable top pillow ball mounts in combination with camber bolts. answered

[garin]

camber bolts are the answer... and like mike said there are adjustable top mounts out there. in the honda world where they use a upper and lower control arm they make aftermarket arms that help with camber ... this is not the case with celicas though.

why are you worried about the rear camber so much?

This post has been edited by garin: Mar 4, 2013 - 3:03 PM

[ILoveMySilly97]

Because extreme camber isn't my thing.

[garin]

you should get it aligned on a rack. oem spec is slightly negative to compensate for road crown.

[Tigawoods]

do you know the degree your rear camber is at?

[garin]

I don't know the exact spec... Slightly negative though

[ILoveMySilly97]

Nope. I don't know the accurate read of it when my car is dropped low but it has enough negative to where I say my car looks super lazy and I want to add some more positive camber. Lol.


This post has been edited by ILoveMySilly97: Mar 7, 2013 - 3:27 PM

[Tigawoods]

I don't know the exact spec... Slightly negative though

not you fool. i dont care about your camber!

Nope. I don't know the accurate read of it when my car is dropped low but it has enough negative to where I say my car looks super lazy and I want to add some more positive camber. Lol.

is it more than this?

[mkernz22]

I don't know the exact spec... Slightly negative though

not you fool. i dont care about your camber!

Nope. I don't know the accurate read of it when my car is dropped low but it has enough negative to where I say my car looks super lazy and I want to add some more positive camber. Lol.

is it more than this?

Not to get off topic, though it's still sort of on topic, but was it hard to replace the rear control arms?
I ask because of that one bolt that goes through the knuckle....

[ILoveMySilly97]

Yea its around that. I don't like that much negative camber. Just enough to see it.

[Tigawoods]

thats -4degrees. which is alot haha.
get those bolts.

and airtools are really the only way to remove the control arms. a good gun and tank

[ILoveMySilly97]

thats -4degrees. which is alot haha.
get those bolts.

and airtools are really the only way to remove the control arms. a good gun and tank

Lol. Ok. At least I know where to go. I'll go -2 or -1.75.

[ILoveMySilly97]

So my eibach camber bolts just came in and the nut cant even screw enough to where the bolt will go all the way through? It's like that on both nuts. Is this how it's suppose to be new? Are you suppose to force the bolt through the nut? I just don't want to strip anything.


EDIT: NVM. Called Eibach and they said it's a safety measure. It's to prevent the nut from loosening when it's installed. He also said you can't finger tighten it. You'd have to use the socket. Did this happen to any of you guys?

This post has been edited by ILoveMySilly97: Mar 7, 2013 - 3:27 PM

[mkernz22]

how far into the nut is the bolt?

[ILoveMySilly97]

how far into the nut is the bolt?

The bolt goes 3/4 into the nut. Ima install it later today when I wake up. Probably afternooish. Lol.

[mkernz22]

how far into the nut is the bolt?

The bolt goes 3/4 into the nut. Ima install it later today when I wake up. Probably afternooish. Lol.

That should be plenty enough! I thought you meant that it was just barely screwing into it lol
Get some pictures once you're done!

[ILoveMySilly97]

I don't get it? Lol. I think I word it wrong. I meant 3/4 into the nut as in the bolt doesn't go all the way through the nut? If you get what I'm saying? Lol.

[ILoveMySilly97]

So took some measurements with my Level app on my phone. The front was both around -2.0 and the rear it was off? The Drivers side was around -2.6 which was perfectly fine for me but the passenger side was about -3.7? No I haven't put on the camber bolts yet. I was just measuring for the heck of it. After I had that measuring I looked at my cars ass from about 30ft and the passenger side is more cambered. I looked from the front of the fenders and the passenger is more cambered. Is that normal? Or does anyone know or think why my car is like that? I don't think it's anything serious to worry about but I'm just curious.

[ILoveMySilly97]

Damn. Had them installed and everytime I finish installing them and take it for a test run it keeps popping back out to the regular camber it was. I tightened it. I'm starting to think that these camber bolts are ****. Keep having issues with them "popping out". I am trying to get more positive camber too if that matters.

[diegohiga]

Even with camber bolts on the back all the way adjusted im at -3.5 so im thinking of cutting the camber bar shorten it about 10mm and weld it again. How this sounds??? Haha it might sound silly but ia good welding will hold it good.

This post has been edited by diegohiga: Mar 20, 2013 - 10:03 PM

[ILoveMySilly97]

Do you know of any other rear camber kits for our cars? Even when I adjust my eibach camber all the way I still get -3 camber. I want to get at least close to -2.

[diegohiga]

Do you know of any other rear camber kits for our cars? Even when I adjust my eibach camber all the way I still get -3 camber. I want to get at least close to -2.

Adjustable bar would be the only thing but they dont exist. That why ill grab and extra set of camber arms and cut them in the mittle and remove 10-15mm and weld it. Thats the only way I can think of

[czwalga]

Slot the strut mounting holes. Camber plates are nothing special, just moves the location of the strut.


Depending on how much you want to move it you may need to reinforce the top of the strut tower a bit, maybe even rebuild the top of the strut tower. If you can weld, both can be done in an afternoon.

This post has been edited by czwalga: Mar 21, 2013 - 6:15 AM

[ILoveMySilly97]

Do you know of any other rear camber kits for our cars? Even when I adjust my eibach camber all the way I still get -3 camber. I want to get at least close to -2.

Adjustable bar would be the only thing but they dont exist. That why ill grab and extra set of camber arms and cut them in the mittle and remove 10-15mm and weld it. Thats the only way I can think of

If you ever get it done and it works. PM me. I'd be interested in buying a set.

Slot the strut mounting holes. Camber plates are nothing special, just moves the location of the strut.


Depending on how much you want to move it you may need to reinforce the top of the strut tower a bit, maybe even rebuild the top of the strut tower. If you can weld, both can be done in an afternoon.

strut mounting holes? you talking about the holes where the strut bolts goes?

[jordisonjr]

Thats what he was referring too.
Just get a set of pillowball mounts unless your really experienced with fab work.

[czwalga]

Thats what he was referring too.
Just get a set of pillowball mounts unless your really experienced with fab work.

Yeah, Pretty much the pillowball with camber bolts does the same thing. In my opinion its not that hard to modify your car to essentially make your own right on the top of the strut mount, provided you can weld.

[ILoveMySilly97]

I never welded before and don't have the equipment for it. Would be nice though. Make life a lot easier to customize parts to fit my car.

[mi645]

Camber plates are not a good way to adjust ur rear camber. The strut will move but the strut angle will stay the same from where the hub will be basically making it slanted