Rose Bowl, UT vs. USC Options

[snapshotgt]

okay, well since i live in Texas, i had to start this topic . . .

all i gotz to say is USC is GOIN' DOWN.

USC has NO chance against vince young . . . he has to change his shoes every play because they are so HOT! . . . jk . . . lol.

be ready for a shocker southern Cal guys!

and oh yeah,

HOOK 'EM HORNS!

~snap

[JFrost9]

snap knows his stuff...

but im still a lil worried, Texas is going to have to play perfect football in order to win this game.

[UTSlickVic]

Ok now you going to get me started:

I graduated from UT and I am I have been following this team for awhile. If there is a team to break USC's win streak/champion status, it is this Texas team. But you are right, Texas will have to play mistake free football, but most importantly, they have to play the best defense they ever have played.

Guys, I think you are going to see a defensive masterpiece put together by the master mind- Gene Chizik. yeah I said it. Remember how we held Ohio State, in the shoe, AT NIGHT. LOL. If Jammal Charles is healthy like he was in the start of this season, man oh man... the whole country is in for a surprise.

I would like to hear other peoples opinion on our team, preferrably from eastern/western/northern states. Or countries

TAKE US THERE VINCE!!!

HOOK 'EM
GO HORNS!!!



This post has been edited by UTSlickVic: Dec 25, 2005 - 1:26 AM

[snapshotgt]

Well,

here it is:

USCs offence is AWESOME.

USCs D is not too good.

UTs offence is really good.

UTs D is really good too.

Reggie Bush is really the only problem i see . . . very big one at that . . . texas did however shut down that guy on Colorado's team that was avg. 10 per carry prior to their meeting . . . so i see hope in that . . .

but on the flipside, USC has NOT played against a team like UT . . . they have never faced a QB like V. Young...and i think that will play into the layout of everything...esp. witha weak D such as USC has.

so, i see it as BOTH teams having to play a great game, USC has the upper hand b/c of : been there, done that/almost a home game, only 15 miles between their school and the Rose Bowl...and oh yeah, that guy, i forget his name?....i think it is Bush...not sure though...lol, jk


just a few thoughts

hope to see this :



~snap

[Sh0gunkid8721]

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Dec 25, 2005 - 2:17 AM

[snapshotgt]

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

Well, Leinart will be going to the NFL next year b/c he's a senior . . . and, well, young has said he's staying for his last year . . . meaning it . . .

Quinn is not bad i have to admit, BUT i HATE ND football, if you want to talk about overrated football...ND is an perfect example. period.

...i don't quite get your "poor man's Vick" comment, but i take it you don't really like him...these QB's are not overrated, they might have a lot of hype surrounding them, but does not mean they are overrated...

and to prove it, just look at the stats...they speak for themselves.

~snap

(edit): lets not start getting into an argument...it will not accomplish anything but getting this thread shut down.

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Dec 25, 2005 - 2:40 AM

[Sh0gunkid8721]

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

Well, Leinart will be going to the NFL next year b/c he's a senior . . . and, well, young has said he's staying for his last year . . . meaning it . . .

Quinn is not bad i have to admit, BUT i HATE ND football, if you want to talk about overrated football...ND is an perfect example. period.

...i don't quite get your "poor man's Vick" comment, but i take it you don't really like him...these QB's are not overrated, they might have a lot of hype surrounding them, but does not mean they are overrated...

and to prove it, just look at the stats...they speak for themselves.

~snap

(edit): lets not start getting into an argument...it will not accomplish anything but getting this thread shut down.

stats in college football dont mean sh** !!! just look at Texas Tech QB's (BJ Symons and Kliff Kingsbury for example), who always lead the nation in passing offense. Just look at Timmy Chang who's the all time leader in NCAA collegee football in yards. Where are they now? Young is a run first, pass second QB and those QB's NEVER work out in the NFL. I'll be surprised if he even plays QB at the next level.

ND football is overrated? LOL. If Matt Leinart didnt fumble out of bounds in the USC vs. ND game this year (in the last seconds), ND woulda knocked them out of the number 1 spot and they themselves could be playin for the national championship. They're FAR from overrated...i dunno what you're talkin about. Brady Quinn is overrated? If u wanna talk about stats and numbers...hee broke almost every single game record for any Notre Dame QB. Yea....including Joe Montana.

and im not arguing...i dont argue. i love football and i love talkin about it. its more of a debate than an argument

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Dec 25, 2005 - 2:57 AM

[snapshotgt]

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

Well, Leinart will be going to the NFL next year b/c he's a senior . . . and, well, young has said he's staying for his last year . . . meaning it . . .

Quinn is not bad i have to admit, BUT i HATE ND football, if you want to talk about overrated football...ND is an perfect example. period.

...i don't quite get your "poor man's Vick" comment, but i take it you don't really like him...these QB's are not overrated, they might have a lot of hype surrounding them, but does not mean they are overrated...

and to prove it, just look at the stats...they speak for themselves.

~snap

(edit): lets not start getting into an argument...it will not accomplish anything but getting this thread shut down.

Young is a run first, pass second QB and those QB's NEVER work out in the NFL. I'll be surprised if he even plays QB at the next level.

Well, this year he has ran for one-thousand yards, and BASICALLY PASSED FOR ONE-THOUSAND . . . that gives me 2 thing to think about:

1: He is a great runner
2: He is a GREAT PASSER TOO.

. . . . and about him "not playing at the next level" . . . . well all i gotz to ask is "what have you been smoking"?

lol...it's all good, but to say he's not going to make it at the next level...well, that is just FLAT OUT WRONG.

~snap

[UTSlickVic]

[/quote]

stats in college football dont mean sh** !!!
[/quote]


Ummm ok then just look at ability then... ummm. Then yes Tech's QB is exposed. What does that make Vince Young then, A bad ass runner with great passing ablity.

This post has been edited by UTSlickVic: Dec 25, 2005 - 3:38 PM

[UTSlickVic]

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

Ohip State is going to put a beat-down on ND.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Vince Young is a great passer??? LOL. Since when? The Big 12 is probably one of the most overrated Conferences in NCAA football this year. He's a great runner? Who cares !!! NFL Scouts are not gonna look at his scrambling ability when they're scouting him cuz it doesnt work in the NFL. Name me ONE successful scrambling QB in the NFL right now. I cant name ONE and NO. McNabb is not a scrambling QB. He's a MOBILE QB. Good QB's make WR's look good. I can't name a Texas WR that's been a stand out this year.

Looking at Texas's EASY schedule, i can name u 2 good teams that theyve played all year. Ohio State and Texas Tech and i dont even consider Tech a great football team. Texas got into the BCS picture by playin some of the easiest teams.

Notre Dame is overrated? They started off the season by knocking TWO teams out of the top 25 picture. Pittsburgh was ranked 23 and i think Michigan was ranked in the top 15. They also played the numer 1 team in the nation and shouldve beat them. USC got lucky.

Put ur Texas pride aside, cuz u have the most overrated team in the nation.

[quote name='UTSlickVic' date='Dec 25, 2005 - 1:37 PM' post='371035']
[/quote]

stats in college football dont mean sh** !!!
[/quote]


Ummm ok then just look at ability then... ummm. Then yes Tech's QB is exposed. What does that make Vince Young then, A bad ass runner with great passing ablity.
[/quote]

Texas Tech QB's are exposed??? LOL. u dont know anything do u. They're what you would call "SYSTEM QUARTERBACKS". They're products of a pass happy offensive system. THey're not good at all. They're NOT exposed.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

Well, Leinart will be going to the NFL next year b/c he's a senior . . . and, well, young has said he's staying for his last year . . . meaning it . . .

Quinn is not bad i have to admit, BUT i HATE ND football, if you want to talk about overrated football...ND is an perfect example. period.

...i don't quite get your "poor man's Vick" comment, but i take it you don't really like him...these QB's are not overrated, they might have a lot of hype surrounding them, but does not mean they are overrated...

and to prove it, just look at the stats...they speak for themselves.

~snap

(edit): lets not start getting into an argument...it will not accomplish anything but getting this thread shut down.

Young is a run first, pass second QB and those QB's NEVER work out in the NFL. I'll be surprised if he even plays QB at the next level.

Well, this year he has ran for one-thousand yards, and BASICALLY PASSED FOR ONE-THOUSAND . . . that gives me 2 thing to think about:

1: He is a great runner
2: He is a GREAT PASSER TOO.

. . . . and about him "not playing at the next level" . . . . well all i gotz to ask is "what have you been smoking"?

lol...it's all good, but to say he's not going to make it at the next level...well, that is just FLAT OUT WRONG.

~snap

Ran for one thousand and passed for one thousand? LOL. Brady Quinn passed for more than 1,000 in his freshman year playing just 60% of the games on his schedule so i dont know why you're so excited about that. And if you're such a Young fan, u would know that he passed for over 2,000 yds this year. AND STILL thats not impressive. Quinn has passed for over 3,600 yds and threw for 6 TD's in a single game this year. He's THROWN for more yards than Young has rushing AND passsing. AND Brady's thrown for more yards this year than Young has in his last 2 seasons.

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Dec 25, 2005 - 7:28 PM

[Sh0gunkid8721]

One more thing...Young is playin for Mack Brown who is still coaching in a collegiate football system. Brady Quinn is playin within the same system that has won 3 Super Bowls in the last 4 yrs. Brady Quinn is playing in an NFL system, and that's why he's gonna be 100 times better than Young in the NFL.

[DamDirtyApes]

Successful scrambling quarterbacks in NFL
Roger Staubach
Micheal Vick
Randal Cunningham
Rich Gannon


just to name a few

This post has been edited by DamDirtyApes: Dec 25, 2005 - 7:32 PM

[JFrost9]

you gotta keep in mind heavy scrambling QBs is a relatively new thing.. Eventually, the QB will be half and half. Lets not forget Vince is also only a junior, hes still got another year to improve. How can you call UT over rated? the only reason the Big 12 IS so bad, is because they all goto Texas anyways...

You cant go on stats, because each team plays a different style...UTs happens to be a run heavy offense, with deep passes. its just like Techs QB... I think Young will be good in the NFL, not the same way someone like Manning is with accuracy...but still.

I also think ND is a very good team, not to mention if you look in the college rule books, reggie bush isnt allowed to push Leinart into the endzone the way he did, so ND shoulda won that... But look at Michigan and Pitts, they can easily be related to Texas' games against Ohio State and Tech... NOt the best teams, but respectable.

I THINK ALL THIS PROVES WE NEED A TOURNAMENT SYSTEM. WHAT WOULD BE BETTER THEN TONS OF THE BEST GOING AT IT EVERY WEEK?

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Successful scrambling quarterbacks in NFL
Roger Staubach
Micheal Vick
Randal Cunningham
Rich Gannon


just to name a few

Vick and Cunningham are the ONLY scrambling QB's on that list. The rest are MOBILE QB;'s. Theres a HUGE difference. Scramblers are QB's that run forward and run instinctively. Mobile QB's that run laterally to buy themselves time to throw the ball. Between Vick and Cunningham, how many post-season games have they won? How many super bowl appearances? None.

you gotta keep in mind heavy scrambling QBs is a relatively new thing.. Eventually, the QB will be half and half. Lets not forget Vince is also only a junior, hes still got another year to improve. How can you call UT over rated? the only reason the Big 12 IS so bad, is because they all goto Texas anyways...

You cant go on stats, because each team plays a different style...UTs happens to be a run heavy offense, with deep passes. its just like Techs QB... I think Young will be good in the NFL, not the same way someone like Manning is with accuracy...but still.

I also think ND is a very good team, not to mention if you look in the college rule books, reggie bush isnt allowed to push Leinart into the endzone the way he did, so ND shoulda won that... But look at Michigan and Pitts, they can easily be related to Texas' games against Ohio State and Tech... NOt the best teams, but respectable.

I THINK ALL THIS PROVES WE NEED A TOURNAMENT SYSTEM. WHAT WOULD BE BETTER THEN TONS OF THE BEST GOING AT IT EVERY WEEK?

Texas players arent that great. Great QB's make average WR's look great. i cant name a good WR on the Texas roster.

And i do agree that we need a tournament system. BCS Sucks.

This post has been edited by Sh0gunkid8721: Dec 25, 2005 - 7:38 PM

[JFrost9]

well keep in mind that there are also great WRs, like that kid from USC...the oldest WR in Texas' bunch is only like a sophomore...we have like 8, maybe thats y you cant name any, because we have a ton of good players ,not one or two excellent players...we may not be that great, but between ALL the talent, theres something to UT.

[UTSlickVic]

[quote name='Sh0gunkid8721' date='Dec 25, 2005 - 7:17 PM' post='371088']
Vince Young is a great passer??? LOL. Since when? The Big 12 is probably one of the most overrated Conferences in NCAA football this year. He's a great runner? Who cares !!! NFL Scouts are not gonna look at his scrambling ability when they're scouting him cuz it doesnt work in the NFL. Name me ONE successful scrambling QB in the NFL right now. I cant name ONE and NO. McNabb is not a scrambling QB. He's a MOBILE QB. Good QB's make WR's look good. I can't name a Texas WR that's been a stand out this year.
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Wow amazing. I do not know even where to start.

Any moron can tell you a QB that just scrambles will not make it in the NFL, its a good thing Vince is not one dimensional. I know numbers make your head hurt but LOOK AT VINCE'S PASSING NUMBERS!!! #1 in pass effiency. We cannot disscuss how Vince is a great passer without disscussing numbers or talking about each game.



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Looking at Texas's EASY schedule, i can name u 2 good teams that theyve played all year. Ohio State and Texas Tech and i dont even consider Tech a great football team. Texas got into the BCS picture by playin some of the easiest teams.
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I agree to some extent that our schedule was somewhat easy. And yes, its because the Big 12 (THIS YEAR) sucked. Not our fault. We take what we are given. PS: Never said or every have considered Tech a "great" football team.


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Notre Dame is overrated? They started off the season by knocking TWO teams out of the top 25 picture. Pittsburgh was ranked 23 and i think Michigan was ranked in the top 15. They also played the numer 1 team in the nation and shouldve beat them. USC got lucky.
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Knocking a #23 ranked team out of the top 25 is nothing to be proud of...LOL..... Well maybe for ND it is LOL.


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Put ur Texas pride aside, cuz u have the most overrated team in the nation.
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Ok putting the pride aside, we have the number #2 college football team (come Jan 4, the #1 team), ND team is not. And guess what we are going to have the number #1 ranked team in the nation next season (This is a FACT).

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[quote name='UTSlickVic' date='Dec 25, 2005 - 1:37 PM' post='371035']
[/quote]

stats in college football dont mean sh** !!!
[/quote]


Ummm ok then just look at ability then... ummm. Then yes Tech's QB is exposed. What does that make Vince Young then, A bad ass runner with great passing ablity.
[/quote]

Texas Tech QB's are exposed??? LOL. u dont know anything do u. They're what you would call "SYSTEM QUARTERBACKS". They're products of a pass happy offensive system. THey're not good at all. They're NOT exposed.
[/quote]
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YES, Texas tech QBs are exposed- meaning that they are not all they are cracked up to be, once they play a real team (ie their system sets them to get big numbers). You miss understood. PS: Do not preach to me about TexasTech's please, you will not give me anything concerning this Big 12 team, that I watch every season.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

THAT U WATCH EVERY SEASON??? Maybe u should try to watch a season without a blindfold cuz u obviously dont know what you're watching...lol

[CheesyLobster]

As a UCLA student, all i can say is F**K SC!!! I hope that texas kills them. usc has better offense, but bad defense, the longhorns are an overall better team, and i think they will win. (fingers crossed)

[snapshotgt]

Okay,

everybody just shut up about ND and Texas...this is getting nowhere.

lets just look at the facts:

UT is going to the Rose bowl, and ND is not. period.

we are talking about the rose bowl here now...ND has no place on this thread.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

Okay,

everybody just shut up about ND and Texas...this is getting nowhere.

lets just look at the facts:

UT is going to the Rose bowl, and ND is not. period.

we are talking about the rose bowl here now...ND has no place on this thread.

well it started w/ me sayin that Brady Quinn is a better QB than Leinart AND Young. Somehow the entire ND team got dragged into the conversation. ::shrugs::

[UTSlickVic]

Okay,

everybody just shut up about ND and Texas...this is getting nowhere.

lets just look at the facts:

UT is going to the Rose bowl, and ND is not. period.

we are talking about the rose bowl here now...ND has no place on this thread.

Here here snap.

I am just so p$#sed off of how ESPN is already naming USC the best college football team EVER and most of their "analyst" laugh when someone thinks Texas will win the game.

They maybe right but thats just it "MAYBE". Don't go labling USC the best / already beaten texas, when the game has not been played yet!

I dunno I do have a bias... so whatever

[JFrost9]

yea i totally agree... i saw them comparing this team to all these other "greatest NCAA teams of all time" and im sitting here thinking, they havent beaten texas yet...but i too have a biased opinion.

[snapshotgt]

Well,

USC has a REALLY good . . . so they (analysts) can just jump on the train and be "oh, usc is really good"..."maybe best of all time"...USC has a HUGE chance of winning...we all know that...more of a chance than Texas...so why not (if you're an paid analyst...) go with the favorite? Media is really wacky...in every way...

...but we just can't know until kick-off who is better...**hopefully ut**...USC is one of the best teams ever...winning streak alone gets them up in the raking of all-time bests...one game cannot really change the "all time best"...

...or can it...what would ut be considered as?

^^that's is the question now^^!!!!!!!!????????????

just a few thoughts...

~snap

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Dec 29, 2005 - 12:01 AM

[Sh0gunkid8721]

they have a chance at a 3-peat which has never been done in college football so OBVIOUSLY they'll get the publicity and the recognition. so stop whining..theyve earned their air-time. and NO im not a USC fan. I could care less who wins the game.

[JFrost9]

then stay outa this topic, no need to be so negative... Its something that has been noticed, and we arent whining..its not like we expect anything to be done by this, we are just pointing out that the publicity about the 3-peat is coming before they have actually gotten it, and no matter how bad you wanna say UT is, they are one of the best teams USC has played, and it will be a huge test for USC. I think if they beat UT, they can be called undoubtedly the best team of all time. (not that UT determines that, just saying)

[JFrost9]

just thought id add that one of the teams in the terrible Big-12 (Oklahoma U.) beat #6 Oregon of the Pac-10.

[snapshotgt]

man, just had to post...i just can't wait!!!

lol...

HOOK 'EM HORNS!

~snap

[UTSlickVic]

Well, Big 12 has shown up in their bowls. In less than 24 hours THE game is to be played. If anyone does not watch it we will steal your TV. All my hopes.

GO HORNS!!!

HOOK 'EM!!!!

[Sh0gunkid8721]

LOL



They're still losing after a TD that shouldnt have counted. Should be 31-20. LOL


and now games over...HOOK EM HORNS !!!....oh wait. they're losing

[Sh0gunkid8721]

LOL...that came and bit me in the a$$...hahahahahaa

[chucho]

Freakin' V. Young! Like i've been saying since the frenso state game, Bush is good but he won the heisman because of that game. Young deserved it 'cause he had more constant games than bush

[Celicav]

HORNS WIN 41-38!!!!

[djultimate]

Vince Young is the FRIKKIN man!!! That was one of the best games I've ever seen!

[JFrost9]

I dont even wanna get started on this game... Your right about that one touchdown, but those Refs just all around sucked. They were placing the ball terribly on both sides, and should never ref again. But a good game....

[celicaST]

I dont even wanna get started on this game... Your right about that one touchdown, but those Refs just all around sucked. They were placing the ball terribly on both sides, and should never ref again. But a good game....

those refs were horrible. texas shouldnt have got that one td, but texas also got robbed of an interception. not to mention many other iffy calls. great game though. vince kicked some serious ass. 200 yards on the ground!

[snapshotgt]

#1

thatzzz all i gotz to say.

~snap

[UTSlickVic]

LOL



They're still losing after a TD that shouldnt have counted. Should be 31-20. LOL


and now games over...HOOK EM HORNS !!!....oh wait. they're losing

Absolutly the funniest "foot in mouth" comment I have ever read!!!
Maybe you should wait until the game is over before your post. YOU GOT OWNED SON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS- Showgunkid: Ohio State bit you in the ass too homie. (Sorry Snap I had to bring it up, just had too)


--------------------------Done rubbing it in---------------------------------------------------
I was a great game for both teams/players. I was impressed by Pete Carroll and White. Carroll can coach and White is powerful runner. One for the Ages.

Hey Snap!
I was in Austin when it happened. I took off 2 days of work just to be there... and let me say I did not regret it at all. Did you hit the drag? It was CRAZY. Everybody seemed to know to meet at the tower

[snapshotgt]

Sh0gunkid8721 =

...lol... yeah, i was actully not in Austin when it happened ...

but man, i hope the media feels the aftermath of insultung Texas, it was outright disrespectful.... v.young called them out in his press conf. -- props to him.

always hook 'em !

Texas = #1

~snap

[Sh0gunkid8721]

LOL



They're still losing after a TD that shouldnt have counted. Should be 31-20. LOL


and now games over...HOOK EM HORNS !!!....oh wait. they're losing

Absolutly the funniest "foot in mouth" comment I have ever read!!!
Maybe you should wait until the game is over before your post. YOU GOT OWNED SON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

PS- Showgunkid: Ohio State bit you in the ass too homie. (Sorry Snap I had to bring it up, just had too)


--------------------------Done rubbing it in---------------------------------------------------
I was a great game for both teams/players. I was impressed by Pete Carroll and White. Carroll can coach and White is powerful runner. One for the Ages.

Hey Snap!
I was in Austin when it happened. I took off 2 days of work just to be there... and let me say I did not regret it at all. Did you hit the drag? It was CRAZY. Everybody seemed to know to meet at the tower

Notice that i never said that i was a Notre Dame fan...so i dont know why ur posting that picture. I dont care about that Notre Dame game. All i said was that Brady Quinn will be a better pro than Young and Leinart and u make me out to be a huge Irish Fan. And yea that was a foot in the mouth, but notice that i fessed up to it after i said it, so theres no need to be a d*ck about it...it was a good game, but Young is not gonna be a good NFL player. Options and running like that doesnt work in the NFL and Young NEVER takes the ball from under the center which is NEVER a good thing, and he also has an unorthodox sidearmed throwing motion which wont bode well in the NFL either. Young will only be a good college QB and nothin more. Like Charlie Ward, Gino Torretta, Ken Dorsey, and Danny Weurffel.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

WHERE YOUNG AT NOW?? Just as i predicted...a coward thats crying cuz he got booed cuz he sucks and was overrated. CANT believe he even graced the cover of Madden.

LIKE I SAID...THE GAME OF OVERRATED QBS...i know what im talkin about and dont deny me. i predicted this 3 YRS AGO !!!!

YES !!!!! The game of the overrate QB's !!! I cant wait to see which one flops in the NFL first.

Leinart = Next Pennington
Young = Poor man's Mike Vick.

If u wanna see a REAL QB in action. take a look at Brady Quinn. THE NEXT BIG THING. I was right when i saw Ben Roethlisberger in his sophomore year in college. And im gonna say the same about Quinn, who i saw when he was a freshman 2 yrs ago.

Well, Leinart will be going to the NFL next year b/c he's a senior . . . and, well, young has said he's staying for his last year . . . meaning it . . .

Quinn is not bad i have to admit, BUT i HATE ND football, if you want to talk about overrated football...ND is an perfect example. period.

...i don't quite get your "poor man's Vick" comment, but i take it you don't really like him...these QB's are not overrated, they might have a lot of hype surrounding them, but does not mean they are overrated...

and to prove it, just look at the stats...they speak for themselves.

~snap

(edit): lets not start getting into an argument...it will not accomplish anything but getting this thread shut down.

Young is a run first, pass second QB and those QB's NEVER work out in the NFL. I'll be surprised if he even plays QB at the next level.

Well, this year he has ran for one-thousand yards, and BASICALLY PASSED FOR ONE-THOUSAND . . . that gives me 2 thing to think about:

1: He is a great runner
2: He is a GREAT PASSER TOO.

. . . . and about him "not playing at the next level" . . . . well all i gotz to ask is "what have you been smoking"?

lol...it's all good, but to say he's not going to make it at the next level...well, that is just FLAT OUT WRONG.

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great passer?? LOL....let me know when he has a season where he throws more TDs than INTs

Sh0gunkid8721 =

...lol... yeah, i was actully not in Austin when it happened ...

but man, i hope the media feels the aftermath of insultung Texas, it was outright disrespectful.... v.young called them out in his press conf. -- props to him.

always hook 'em !

Texas = #1

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WHO'S OWNED NOW??? GO YOUNG !!!

[UTSlickVic]

wow glad to see you've gotten over that.... LOL

glad to see you havn't been gitting any sleep at night since you got owned.

lol... get some sleep dude and spend less time on the internet, go outside please.

[Sh0gunkid8721]

wow glad to see you've gotten over that.... LOL

glad to see you havn't been gitting any sleep at night since you got owned.

lol... get some sleep dude and spend less time on the internet, go outside please.

Get outside? I havent been on this site nor posted on t his site in about a month or so...i dont have the time of day to play on toy cars anymore.

Dont be bitter cuz ur college hero ended up being a dud like i said he would.