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post Dec 29, 2005 - 12:20 PM
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i know the GT are 6200 rpm redline i though my 94 st was also 6200 but i was searching around and saw a post about the st 5800 redline

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post Dec 29, 2005 - 12:41 PM
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You don't want to race or run anywhere above 5800 in a GT either. You lose power at 5800 RPMs.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 12:46 PM
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QUOTE(celiracer @ Dec 29, 2005 - 11:41 AM) [snapback]372488[/snapback]

You don't want to race or run anywhere above 5800 in a GT either. You lose power at 5800 RPMs.


i dont care about racing all i was woundering was the stock redline in the st celica


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 1:18 PM
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6200, atleast thats what mine goes up too.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 1:41 PM
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QUOTE(celiracer @ Dec 29, 2005 - 5:41 PM) [snapback]372488[/snapback]

You don't want to race or run anywhere above 5800 in a GT either. You lose power at 5800 RPMs.



huh, theres no significant power drop off in the 5sfe until after 6500rpm. peak is yes around 5800. but you should shift at the limiter.

if you shift at 5800rpms (~120whp) and land at 3800(~75whp) you gonna pull a slower time then if you shifted at 6200rpms (~110 rpms) and landed at 4200rpms (~100whp).



also yeah i thought both were 6200rpm rev limiters.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 1:51 PM
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When i shift at 5800 i get a better second gear reaction then i do when i shift at 6200 rpms this has ben discussed before. In a post i posted for a cavalier vs celica GT. more people will post in here and say the same thing that after 5800 rpms you lose power


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 2:04 PM
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QUOTE(celiracer @ Dec 29, 2005 - 6:51 PM) [snapback]372515[/snapback]

When i shift at 5800 i get a better second gear reaction then i do when i shift at 6200 rpms this has ben discussed before. In a post i posted for a cavalier vs celica GT. more people will post in here and say the same thing that after 5800 rpms you lose power



yeah i mean landing at 3500 rpms is going to give you more torque but not mroe horsepower and thus a fast time.

i understand that more people are gonna say that but until they look at a dyno they will think that they are right, and im sorry but theyre not.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 2:18 PM
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mine is 6800 RPM is a celica st european version not uk
if you guys now to reprogram to make more rpm post links and how to


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 3:54 PM
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recneps and celiracer. can we stay in da topic? we're talking bout redlines here.. not when to shift. now to answer you nik. i remember my ST having the same redline as my GT, so i'll say 6200rpm?


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 4:31 PM
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mine is rite at 5800. 97 st


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 4:38 PM
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i wounder are 94-95 st redline at 6200 then change 96-97 to 5800


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 4:43 PM
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that might be the case because my 97 st redlines at 5800


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 5:19 PM
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well i also seen sheets where the 94-95 have more horse to the crank than 95-97 at which date the cars changed from obd1 to obd2


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 5:28 PM
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The stock redline on the ST is 6200 and 5800... depending on what year and emissions trim you have. I don't know exactly which is which... but both of the mentioned redlines are correct. As far as fuel cut goes... the ST is something like 6500-6700 rpms.

As for the GT... it doesn't make sh!t for power after 5500 rpms and drops off as much as 40 hp and 40 ftlbs or torque by redline... so whoever says otherwise... HAHA. =/


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 6:26 PM
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my fuel cuts like at 6000-6200 rpm which is really low....


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 6:33 PM
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i have fuel cut right around 6,500 rpm.. i have a 94 and i've raced my friend 97 special edition and its conciderabely slower --- i spanked him :-/. i've driven both cars and i've noticed that the redline is lower in the 97 and his fuel cuts off pretty much right at redline as of my 94 i can go as far as the gauge can.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 6:44 PM
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Ya 94-95 has a bigger redline. on ST's i beleive. But mine on a 97 gt is 6200 but o-well i think you got your answer now lol


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 11:01 PM
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94 - 95 ST's have more horsepower, but less torque than the 96 - 97's. And yes, the 94 - 95's do have a redline at 6200 when the 96 - 97's are at 5800.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 11:05 PM
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QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 4:38 PM) [snapback]372613[/snapback]

i wounder are 94-95 st redline at 6200 then change 96-97 to 5800



QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 5:19 PM) [snapback]372640[/snapback]

well i also seen sheets where the 94-95 have more horse to the crank than 95-97 at which date the cars changed from obd1 to obd2

100% correct on all accounts.

94-95 110hp OBDI 6200

96-97 105hp OBDII 5800


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 11:13 PM
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Yeh i noticed myself that if we shift over 5500 my car is slower, and this is from trials racing against my friends repeativly.
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post Dec 29, 2005 - 11:17 PM
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Well my 97 celica redlines at 6200 And its a gt.


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post Dec 29, 2005 - 11:31 PM
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my 97 st auto hits fuel cut at 6050
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post Dec 30, 2005 - 3:02 PM
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100% correct on all accounts.

94-95 110hp OBDI 6200

96-97 105hp OBDII 5800

mine is 94 and have 115hp


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post Dec 30, 2005 - 4:35 PM
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mine is a 94 and have cut at 5800.........but it has a 97 motor in it..ST btw, my gt is 6200..

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QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 5:46 PM) [snapback]372490[/snapback]

QUOTE(celiracer @ Dec 29, 2005 - 11:41 AM) [snapback]372488[/snapback]

You don't want to race or run anywhere above 5800 in a GT either. You lose power at 5800 RPMs.


i dont care about racing all i was woundering was the stock redline in the st celica


My thoughts are: If you don't care about racing, then you shouldn't worry about where the car redlines.
post Jan 1, 2006 - 10:21 AM
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Mine is European GT version with 175HP.

It redlines at 7.000rpm and limiter is at some 7.300rpm roughly.. can't be sure on 100% as after 5000rpm it runs up like hell... ;-)

According to GPS 0-60mph in 7.6sec


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post Jan 3, 2006 - 11:00 AM
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QUOTE(pokemeintheeye @ Dec 31, 2005 - 10:02 AM) [snapback]373253[/snapback]

QUOTE(nik @ Dec 29, 2005 - 5:46 PM) [snapback]372490[/snapback]

QUOTE(celiracer @ Dec 29, 2005 - 11:41 AM) [snapback]372488[/snapback]

You don't want to race or run anywhere above 5800 in a GT either. You lose power at 5800 RPMs.


i dont care about racing all i was woundering was the stock redline in the st celica


My thoughts are: If you don't care about racing, then you shouldn't worry about where the car redlines.


wow i guess i didnt make my self clear i want to know the 94-99 celica redline in the GT and ST models also we found out that the st in 96-97 changed why would i care what the stock redline is when im running 7agte that revs to 8500. Shin and I were just talking about it so i though i would post a topic. NOW THIS QUESTION HAS BEEN ANSWERED AND IT WAS NEVER ABOUT RACING


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set em straight nik >;D


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the 1/4 doesnt have patience for a ST.... so we make them ST-T's so atleast we'll sound good going slow.
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QUOTE(Blakout16 @ Jan 3, 2006 - 10:35 PM) [snapback]374189[/snapback]

set em straight nik >;D


That comment is just begging for retaliation.

Back to the subject though. The question was answered, but you know. My point was, if the car is just used for daily driving. It wouldn't matter where the car redlines. If you're autocrossing or something of that nature, then I'd understand the question. Asking where it redlines wasn't a stupid question and if you guys thought I was trying to be smart I wasn't. I was just adding my comment. And you know, thats great nik has a 7agte. Mad props. But you know, I just hope people aren't shifting at redline at a daily basis. Then again, what you do with you car is your own business.
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QUOTE(pokemeintheeye @ Jan 4, 2006 - 3:00 AM) [snapback]374277[/snapback]

Then again, what you do with you car is your own business.

EXACTLY...


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QUOTE(Dub @ Jan 1, 2006 - 10:21 AM) [snapback]373439[/snapback]

Mine is European GT version with 175HP.

It redlines at 7.000rpm and limiter is at some 7.300rpm roughly.. can't be sure on 100% as after 5000rpm it runs up like hell... ;-)

According to GPS 0-60mph in 7.6sec


also got the 3sge, the fun starts at approx 4500 and up to redline biggrin.gif


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