5sfe Celica VS 5sfe Mr2 Options

[My2Celi]

I race my own Mr2 today just to see whats it made of and it wooped my celi. I felt disappointed hoping it will win. Well the mr2 only beat the celi by a car link. But still im mad now. It cant be that slow. Im so tempted to do a 3sgte swap now. I thnk it could b my bald tires on my celi. But ima do another run tomorrow and video it. hope i beat it.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

MR2's will hook up better. They are heavier though, but not by much. I'm debating a 3sgte with a lsd. It might fix the problems I thought would happen with that much power to the front wheels.

[Kwanza26]

a 5SFE MR2 will always beat a 5SFE Celica... mod for mod...

[jgreening]

MR2's will hook up better. They are heavier though, but not by much. I'm debating a 3sgte with a lsd. It might fix the problems I thought would happen with that much power to the front wheels.

I had no tire spin on my 3sgte with the stock turbo and LSD without slipping the clutch. With the GT28RS, its another story.

[jayi12-15psi]

I thought last I checked the base mr2 was a tenth of a second slower in 0-60.

[Kwanza26]

I thought last I checked the base mr2 was a tenth of a second slower in 0-60.

my MR2 can run consistant 15.7's-15.9's... stock... I would imagine more loaded models (T tops, sunroof, etc) are only a few tenths behind at the most...

You gotta drive an MR2 first... and they do feel much different...

This post has been edited by Kwanza26: Jan 24, 2006 - 12:32 AM

[jayi12-15psi]

these sites really vary so, if one site says it's a tenth of a second faster in 0-60, dosen't mean it's true.

does anyone know of a good reliable site with 0-60 times?

[presure2]

the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?

Is that with the 5sfe? I thought the 15's was with the 3sgte.

EDIT: That's sad if it's only running high 15's with a turbo set up.

This post has been edited by Bigmeanbulldog55: Jan 24, 2006 - 11:38 AM

[lagos]

an NA mr2 runs mid 15s

my buddy had one back in the day. his car was always faster then mine, back when i was still NA. the mid engine rwd setup really makes a huge difference, you really have to drive one to know how it can put your in your seat, even with a 5sfe in it.

[jayi12-15psi]

[/quote]the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?[quote]

you don't have to be like that my information was wrong, I asked if anyone knew a accurate site.

what are the 0-60 times in comparison of the models.

[jgreening]

the '2 runs mid to high 15s stock
the celi runs mid 17's...hmm i wonder which is faster?

you don't have to be like that my information was wrong, I asked if anyone knew a accurate site.

what are the 0-60 times in comparison of the models.

I find it interesting that you criticize the way Manny answered your question when you continually bash people in your posts. Thats hypocritical.

On another note, I am building a turbo V6 MR2 and aiming for 10's. It will have air conditioning and 200 ft /lbs by 3500 RPMs.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

A second and a haff difference just from engine placement? I know you guys know what your talking about, but it's just hard for me to wrap my mind around. It doesn't sound right. What is the reason for it being like this? Picks up that 1.5second on launch?

[lagos]

A second and a haff difference just from engine placement? I know you guys know what your talking about, but it's just hard for me to wrap my mind around. It doesn't sound right. What is the reason for it being like this? Picks up that 1.5second on launch?

its better to push (rwd) then the pull (fwd). the car is also a 2 seater and a lot smaller then a celica. i dont know if all the weight specs people post are correct, cause just by looking at the mr2 i would say its a lighter car, but who knows. all i can tell you is that my buddy was always able to floor in in 1st-3rd and it would throw me back in my seat, while my 5sfe was never able to do anything like that. he took his car to the track once and ran a 15.9.

[Bigmeanbulldog55]

I think a NA MR2 might be the car for me then. I know these 5sfe's are good motors. I'm going to look into this.

[bufferdan]

I think a NA MR2 might be the car for me then. I know these 5sfe's are good motors. I'm going to look into this.

As long as you dont need to carry anything around

They are GREAT cars though... very low maintence and good power band. Lasting 200k+ miles with few problems usually is the best part

[OrbitalGT95]

RWD>FWD...

[boosted_K2]

MR2s ARE in fact on average heavier than a celica.
I find the maintence is very dependant on who owned the car before you, and of couse, what you are planning on doing with it.
and since the question was posed and no answer was given, a stock MR2 turbo can run a mid 14 if in good health.

[jayi12-15psi]

I find it interesting that you criticize the way Manny answered your question when you continually bash people in your posts. Thats hypocritical.

Is this about the kid wanting to buy a stolen car? I usually only "bash" when it's really stupid conversation, and that conversation yesterday was by far the most extreme occasion where I have bashed.

That kid's question deserved to be bashed, it's common knowledge that what he was trying to do with his buddy is illegal. The question of the mr-2s 0-60 or quarter mile times, is not common knowledge because it's difficult to sometimes find accurate 0-60 times. I admitted that my info was inaccurate and asked for an accurate site for 0-60 times. I just feel some things are stupid questions, I answer questions like these sometimes in a mean way and if my question was stupid, I would have no problem with Manny giving me a reply typically reserved for n00bs.

[jayi12-15psi]

1994 Toyota Celica GT 8.4 16.4

1990 Toyota MR2 Turbo 6.2 14.7
1991 Toyota MR2 8.5 16.3
1993 Toyota MR2 Turbo 6.1 14.7
1994 Toyota MR2 6.2 14.8

I simply went by these numbers and I was only looking at the 0-60. and I got it from a quick yahoo search.

http://www.albeedigital.com/supercoupe/art.../0-60times.html
They even claim themselves that they aren't accurate, but these numbers are far off from ours. Anyone know of a list like this? Sometimes it's a pain in the ass if you're trying to research and compare 0-60 times.

[boosted_K2]

because over .5 seconds can be EASILY gained or lost depending on driver, track conditions, track, and any given run... thats the whole reason drag racing is even a sport. all that rating stuff is just baseline, benchmark stuff... imo if two cars are within .75 seconds they are comparible on any given day with amature drivers

[jayi12-15psi]

I understand that, but I was hoping for a compilation of factory specs. When a car comes from the factory, they usually say "buy our car, because it does 0-60 in 5 seconds.

[Agent21]

0-60 yes the mr2 will win, probably even 1/4 mile....top speed however is where the mr2's crappy airo package screws it up so bad that toyota put a limit in the celica ecu to make it slower.

[jgreening]

I find it interesting that you criticize the way Manny answered your question when you continually bash people in your posts. Thats hypocritical.

Is this about the kid wanting to buy a stolen car? I usually only "bash" when it's really stupid conversation, and that conversation yesterday was by far the most extreme occasion where I have bashed.

That kid's question deserved to be bashed, it's common knowledge that what he was trying to do with his buddy is illegal. The question of the mr-2s 0-60 or quarter mile times, is not common knowledge because it's difficult to sometimes find accurate 0-60 times. I admitted that my info was inaccurate and asked for an accurate site for 0-60 times. I just feel some things are stupid questions, I answer questions like these sometimes in a mean way and if my question was stupid, I would have no problem with Manny giving me a reply typically reserved for n00bs.

Yea, that one. And, the one about Orville hitting the wall and suing his landlord. Also, the one about me posting an update that I was taking my car to get the front end done. There are a number of times where you are simply mean spirited. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should have to sugar coat things or refrain from telling people about the search feature when a question is asked that is easily answerable by searching. Its best to just say: "Search on the word '_____' in the '_______' forum", rather than: "You are a freaking idiot for asking this question. Let me get this straight, you don't know what a 3sgte is????"

Now, I have said time and time again that people should not get their feelings hurt because something some a$$hole says to them over the internet, however, there would be less of that whining if people like you would just go a little easier when people ask something that YOU think is stupid. Manny (presure2) obviously thought your post was stupid but he didn't resort to namecalling or demeaning behavior. Perhaps his post may have brought home how stupid your question was and thats why it bothered you.

Also, I think its worse to be harsh to a noob than it is to a more senior member. The other day Dr. Tweak said something to me like "better do your research boy" when we were debating something. Was it offensive? You can decide that but it didn't bother me because (1) I have been around and know how people are on here and let the stuff role off my back; and (2) I knew he was wrong so it didn't matter (j/k Tweak).

Anyway, thats my $.02. Take it for what its worth - admittedly, not much.

- J

[SlowCelica94]

I took a stock n/a MR2 from a 50mph-100 roll, back in the day

[My2Celi]

well we ran again today and this time i was driving the mr2. i like the feel of it, i did try to video it but my v3 black phone fail to saved it. i ran it behind Fry's, my work place. The security guys told me to stop and go home. O well i have both my dream cars.

This post has been edited by My2Celi: Jan 24, 2006 - 8:12 PM

[jayi12-15psi]

Ok, your post was months ago, and it was you telling us you were going to do your project. I can't remember what I said, but if it was offensive enough for you to keep it pent up like this, I apologize.

Orvillescelica RAN HIS CAR INTO A WALL!!! I like the guy, he's a great member, but you should still be able to know where you can and squeeze your car. If I can't park between two cars, I don't park there. He should have told his landlord. "hey, that spot looks to small."

The guy last night wanted to buy a stolen car!!!

I never tell people they're idiots for questions such as What's a 3sgte. Two instances where I've bashed people

one of them ran into a wall, the other tried to buy a car his friend was gonna steal.

Sorry Orville, I don't mean to re-open this, and I'm sorry if I insulted you by telling you "you were the tard in the situation."

[Kwanza26]

People are stupid... just be tactful about your approach... like me sometimes...

[jgreening]

no apology necessary. I didn't cry about it and it didn't hurt my feelings. I believe in being direct and in some ways, I find your posts refreshing because you say what is on your mind. However, its easy to be direct without being a d1ck.

Isn't it ironic that I am taking this side of the debate when so many people have said I was being a d1ck when I answered a question directly? Oh well - just a friendly suggestion. Take it or ignore it - no big deal. I don't feel too sorry for the cry babies.

[jayi12-15psi]

I like what you said kwanza, because I used to think you were a dick, but I can level with you on most things now.

Guys like us tend to get really pissed off at people not using common sense. Sometimes I feel like this board is way to nice about some things, I understand that it's a family board and I try to respect it, but sometimes I can't control myself.

Sorry, I just think I fit into this community as the asshole that keeps everyone from going into la la land.

If anyone is ever bothered by my posts, pm me, and even if I don't agree with you there's a good chance I'll apologize.

[boosted_K2]

0-60 yes the mr2 will win, probably even 1/4 mile....top speed however is where the mr2's crappy airo package screws it up so bad that toyota put a limit in the celica ecu to make it slower.

what are you talking about?!?!?! the MR2 has an extremely low drag coefficient... it was one of the selling points in the advertising they were doing for the vehicle, it was comparable to the F355 ferraris which was one of the reasons the MR2 was coined the "baby ferrari".


and to everyone else quit bitching, stay on the thread topic, start a new one in OT, or take it off the forums.

[blu94gt]

0-60 yes the mr2 will win, probably even 1/4 mile....top speed however is where the mr2's crappy airo package screws it up so bad that toyota put a limit in the celica ecu to make it slower.

what are you talking about?!?!?! the MR2 has an extremely low drag coefficient... it was one of the selling points in the advertising they were doing for the vehicle, it was comparable to the F355 ferraris which was one of the reasons the MR2 was coined the "baby ferrari".


and to everyone else quit bitching, stay on the thread topic, start a new one in OT, or take it off the forums.

yeah really he made it sound like the MR2 is like driving a brick wall. And limiter in the Celica? My car goes its fastest at redline in 5th gear, if that's electronic limiting then my car must be capable of higher RPMs. A 5sfe MR2 would be close to the same top speed because it's the same engine and if I remember correctly the NA had the same gearing.