DYNO RESULTS, reached 1.4 bar boost Options

[tufy]

yesterday night we spent 1.5 hours on dyno. engine was running smooth and gearbox was so fine
results was like this
490.7 hp @ 179km/H 5962 at 1.1 boost pressure
419.4 awhp@ 179km/H 5962 at 1.1 boost pressure

462 hp@6623 at 0.9 bar boost
382 awhp@6623 at 0.9 bar boost
523 nm torque @5876 rpm 0.9 bar boost

324 awp @ 0.7 bar boost


we couldnt boost more because of my greedy type s bov. 5900 rpm is so early for max power. this is because of boost leak form bov. tunner said that injectors was nearly reaching max level so we need bigger ones.
i ll go dyno again next month with new mods.. mods will be; greedy type R bov. top feed 1000 cc enj with new fuel rail.
and larger exhoust.
we are planning to have max boost arround 1.5- 1.6 bar. i wish we dont have and more proplems.




This post has been edited by tufy: Mar 27, 2006 - 8:05 AM

[Jen]

awesome.

[Magic]

Tufy Results are great so far Next time lets try to have your car clean to enjoy it more Hahahaha

I dont see any photos of us around

[doGGy]

Well i almost hit the bulls EYE with my guess in another tread!

I will be sceptical - 430whp

lol, i knew one thing - what TypeS wount hold such pressure. Get HKS or Greddy Race spec one.

And good luck with new mods

[tufy]

Tufy Results are great so far Next time lets try to have your car clean to enjoy it more Hahahaha

I dont see any photos of us around

thats you that drinking coffe in last picture . btw. video is amazing i ll give them you to upload it when we meet

This post has been edited by tufy: Mar 24, 2006 - 5:50 AM

[Vacchus]

With these results and the expected after taking care of the bov, it is going to be very difficult for you to find a nice opponent to check your celi on the road..

Great work!!

[presure2]

GREAT work tufy!

[Jen]

I want to see the video!

[CelicaZR]

Very nice figures Tufy
I think you should've no problem reaching your 500hp target,
after you add those mods.
After that we need some vids of kills

[tufy]

I want to see the video!

video is nice but one thing... my car is dirty
i want to say that my car is still at work shop.. i have some fresh news from workshop. they just installed greedy type R BOV and replacing sard 255 lph fuel pump with apexi 255 fuel pump. i have 4 new greedy gouges (fuel press, exhoust temp, oil press. and boost) that installed today. so now they can see better how is fuel going. today we will have some road tunning. i hope to go higher boost's.
here is me and mottis( tunner) he is explaining me about tunning


This post has been edited by tufy: Mar 24, 2006 - 7:43 AM

[jgreening]

Congrats. Good luck the rest of the way.

[maikl]

nice... why didn't you changed your blow off in the first time? you've changed everything else.... need a gear-box? i have 2 now

[Magic]

maikl if you want to sell your 2nd gearbox to Tufy then go and take a ride his car...

YOU CAN MAKE IT MAN!!!

Hahahaha

This post has been edited by Magic: Mar 24, 2006 - 8:35 AM

[alexjb]

Impresive!

490 at the flywheel from a 2litre 4 banger! wow, very nice set up dude.

[playr158]

OH HALLELUIA

thats hot!

can't wait to see it on the 1000cc injectors
why not run the HKS blow off?

[crismillencolin]

i luv that car

[tufy]

why not run the HKS blow off?

i dont like sound of hks blow off

[95CelicaST]

Want to trade? Of course, you'll have to hand over some cash, cause mine is worth SO MUCH MORE than yours..

That is sexy.. 400+HP and it can still go higher!

more pictures!

[lagos]

great work !

[Jdog1385]

awesome tufy, great work. she's very dirty though, . lol

[Chanh55]

It's still sexy dirty.... I demand bigger pics for wallpaper!

[Kadett]

I've got a spare JDM gearbox. But dont think the gearbox will break down that quick.
What is the 4wd hearbox of a 3rd gen worth?

[snapshotgt]

very nice work...can't wait to see what happens with these newer mods!

~snapshotgt

[celicaST]

It's still sexy dirty.... I demand bigger pics for wallpaper!

oooo i like dirty, fast, sexy... cars . i second that, bigger pics!

absolutley amazing car. one drive in that and id probably have a permanent smile for life.

[hitcachi]

There's a little pic of the interior! I've never seen the interior of Tufy's car. haha. Gorgeous car with power to match. Nice work.

[celicaST]

There's a little pic of the interior! I've never seen the interior of Tufy's car. haha. Gorgeous car with power to match. Nice work.

here ya go tufy interior looks just as nice on the inside.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Tufy, your car really is a masterpiece.....I give you alot of credit for putting so much work and time into your project.

Good luck with the rest of the tuning. I'm pretty sure I would be scared to ride in that thing.

[recycle]

this is the time of maximun boost high peak of the whole dyno. i tried to show the smoke from the exaust but no luck. i took the picture:)

[tufy]

here is larger version of my favorite picture.
i promise to all 6gc members to post better dyno pictures with a clean and polished car
with better dyno results
can any one clean my at photoshop pls


This post has been edited by tufy: Mar 25, 2006 - 5:25 AM

[Kadett]

The upload went wrong because the lower part is all grey.

[alexjb]

Hats of to you fella, close to the 500....

What a car, a sleeper too, no rice boy about it.

hope you get over the 500 with your new mods.

[lagos]

tuffy... do you have any way you can make in car videos for us? id like to see how a gt4 with that much power feels.

[devilsden97]

DEAR LORD TUFY, in a way i was thinking others were joking about u making 500. Im like "psh yeah right, 500hp off a 2 liter, 4 banger...lol dont make me laugh"

BUT OMG 490.....WTF dude, your so close. I WANNA SEE IT!

VIDEO TOO!

ps. if it wasnt AWD id be asking for a burn out video...ill settle for some doughnuts tho. (im kinda a sucker for a burn out, and or doughnuts.)

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Mar 25, 2006 - 4:58 PM

[zachattack15]

AWD donuts are fun

[bloodrain]

atleast by all the dirt one of two things can be assumed. 1) You really put your car to its potenial and drive it how it is supposed to be driven or 2) your lazy as hell and need to wash your car. lol god i hope its #1, anywho good stuff man

[creis]

Sweet ride man, thats very impressive.

good luck with the upcoming mods!


high res photoes would be much apreciated.

[tufy]

atleast by all the dirt one of two things can be assumed. 1) You really put your car to its potenial and drive it how it is supposed to be driven or 2) your lazy as hell and need to wash your car. lol god i hope its #1, anywho good stuff man

my car is still at my engineer so i didnt have change to drive it or wash it before or after tunning

[dustin15brown]

That is amazing man, keep up the good work and I can't wait for the video

[brianforster]

i know this is what everyone says when someone posts a gt4 thread, but you seriously make me wanna move to somewhere where gt4's were sold

[BBoYRuGGeD]

damn thats sick bro...that kinda power must be awesome

DEAR LORD TUFY, in a way i was thinking others were joking about u making 500. Im like "psh yeah right, 500hp off a 2 liter, 4 banger...lol dont make me laugh"

u should visit alltrac.net and mr2oc.com

bboy

[tufy]

we just finished mapping. we reached 1.4 bar boost after installing new greedy type R bow, 255 lph apexi fuel pump and 5 bar map sensor. i think now we are so close to 500 whp now or more. i am waiting for new injectors and fuel rail to go dyno one more time.

[playr158]

very nice tuffy!
what rail are you planning to use?

[snakeloa]

Where did you get the map sensor from tufy? What is this sensor doing exactly?

This post has been edited by snakeloa: Mar 27, 2006 - 2:16 PM

[playr158]

a MAP sensor reads the pressure and converts it into OHMS...
tells the computer how much boost/vacuum is being made

[snakeloa]

and what does the "5 bar" indicate. that you can go up to 5 bar? The usual OEM Sensor how much bar can this one handle?


Is this a must?

@tufy Where did you buy it?

cheers Joerg

This post has been edited by snakeloa: Mar 27, 2006 - 6:18 PM

[playr158]

"The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor measures the changes in the intake manifold pressure which result from engine load (intake manifold vacuum) and rpm changes; and converts these into a voltage output. By monitoring the sensor output voltage, the ECU know the manifold pressure. At lower pressure output voltage will be about 1 to 2 volts at idle. While at higher pressure or at Wide Open Throttle (WOT) output voltage will be about 4 to 4.8. The MAP sensor is also used, under certain conditions, to measure barometric pressure, allowing the ECU to make adjustments for different altitudes. The ECU uses the MAP sensor to control fuel delivery and ignition timing."

2 bar = 14.7 psi (oem i think)
3 bar = 29.4 psi
4 bar = 44.1 psi
5 bar = 58.8 psi

[doGGy]

"The Manifold Absolute Pressure (MAP) sensor measures the changes in the intake manifold pressure which result from engine load (intake manifold vacuum) and rpm changes; and converts these into a voltage output. By monitoring the sensor output voltage, the ECU know the manifold pressure. At lower pressure output voltage will be about 1 to 2 volts at idle. While at higher pressure or at Wide Open Throttle (WOT) output voltage will be about 4 to 4.8. The MAP sensor is also used, under certain conditions, to measure barometric pressure, allowing the ECU to make adjustments for different altitudes. The ECU uses the MAP sensor to control fuel delivery and ignition timing."

2 bar = 14.7 psi (oem i think)
3 bar = 29.4 psi
4 bar = 44.1 psi
5 bar = 58.8 psi

Ehm ehm...... Dan:

1 bar = 14.5037738 pounds per square inch

2 bar = 14.7 psi (oem i think)
3 bar = 29.4 psi
4 bar = 44.1 psi
5 bar = 58.8 psi

Next time - please check before posting

[playr158]

lol sorry i was out by .2
3 bar is now 29psi
4 bar 43.5psi
5 bar 58psi

i got the orignal #s off a quick yahoo scan
"1 Bar MAP sensors are used on NA(naturally asperated) vehicles.
2 Bar MAP Sensors are used on forced induction vehicles(Turbo & Supercharged). They can measure up to 2x the apmospheric pressure(29.4psi), so that means it can measure up to 14.7psi boost(the atmosphere is 14.7psi + 14.7psi from the turbo/supercharger).
3 Bar MAP sensors can measure up to 44.1psi, which translates to 29.7psi boost from a Turbo/supercharger."
http://www.rmsirace.com/emanage/GM_MAP_sen...tification.html

thanks for catching that

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 28, 2006 - 1:06 AM

[doGGy]

now its better lol

[tufy]

very nice tuffy!
what rail are you planning to use?

Where did you get the map sensor from tufy? What is this sensor doing exactly?

i am planning to use HKS fuel rail. but still i dont have prices to decide.
my tunner installed this map sensor. thanks doogy and playr 158 for info.
btw. i drived my car yesterday night. it was awsome. power is at little bit high rpms but once turbo spoools its very fast. its hard to drive. i have to made some more practice to improve my driving skills.

This post has been edited by tufy: Mar 28, 2006 - 3:47 AM

[urbandork]

wow i want one

[snakeloa]

@playr158 Thank you for your explanation

Ok then i willl have to get one as well. Where can i get such a 5 Bar Map Sensor?

@tufy what ECU are you running? Power FC?

[tufy]

@playr158 Thank you for your explanation

Ok then i willl have to get one as well. Where can i get such a 5 Bar Map Sensor?

@tufy what ECU are you running? Power FC?

yes i have power fc. ecu.
i just checked my old sensor. it writes ''sensor assy. turbo pressure'' brand is denso. 5 bar map sensor is also denso.

[snakeloa]

Thank you tufy!

Tell me do you use the datalogit or what did your tuner use to get the maps set right.

cheers Joerg

[recycle]

lol sorry i was out by .2
3 bar is now 29psi
4 bar 43.5psi
5 bar 58psi

this is so wrong

2 bar is 29psi
4 bar is 58psi

[afroman]

i think what he is tring to say is that a 3 bar map sensor can read 29 psi of boost ans so on.
-Aaron-

[playr158]

lol sorry i was out by .2
3 bar is now 29psi
4 bar 43.5psi
5 bar 58psi

this is so wrong

2 bar is 29psi
4 bar is 58psi

actually we are both right...your talking atmospheric pressure....mine is in turbo/supercharger boost pressure

"2 bar map = They can measure up to 2x the atmospheric pressure(29.4psi), so that means it can measure up to 14.7psi boost(the atmosphere is 14.7psi + 14.7psi from the turbo/supercharger)."
you have to remember turbo pressure is ABOVE atmosphere...so 0 boost = 14.7 atmosphere so when you read 14.7 on your gauge thats really 29psi...
make sense now?

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 28, 2006 - 2:29 PM

[tufy]

Thank you tufy!

Tell me do you use the datalogit or what did your tuner use to get the maps set right.

cheers Joerg

he used his laptop to tune my car as seen in photos...

[snakeloa]

That is for sure But which program did he run on it "Datalogit" the "Excel" or any other Software?

[tufy]

That is for sure But which program did he run on it "Datalogit" the "Excel" or any other Software?

ohh. he was using datalogit.

[snakeloa]

just a short question again where can i buy such a 5 Bar Map Sensor? Any idea?

[playr158]

http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.a...15&autoview=sku

[snakeloa]

is it a universal one which is nearly plug and play?

[CeLiKaoS]

cool !