My new Rims (updated 5/15/06, finished), Mille Miglia HT3 17x8 with 35mm+ offset Options

[devilsden97]

Yeah so i got them from tirerack.com for $99 a piece, when they originally went for $238. Close out rims. Cost me a total of $447, with shipping, no tires as of yet. (make suggestions) Here is a pic of them.

http://www.tirerack.com/images/wheels/mill...t3_cg_ci3_l.jpg i got them in that color.

(More pics when i get them mounted, and then on the car.)

(kinda having an oil leak issue, so maybe ordering rims at this time was a rash decision, but oh well.)


edit: also ordered sportline lowering springs, and the camber adjustments for both front and back.

This post has been edited by devilsden97: May 15, 2006 - 4:01 PM

[tomazws]

If you want a good warranty on your tires... search around for the cheapest cheapest price you could find online for tires, print it out, and price match with America's Tires Co. They have great warranty on tires, no worry about running a nail.

[kash1355]

If you want a good warranty on your tires... search around for the cheapest cheapest price you could find online for tires, print it out, and price match with America's Tires Co. They have great warranty on tires, no worry about running a nail.

does this apply to their online site too? the price matching that is..

[BluuFire]

Hey, nice find on rims...what size are they? Post some pictures when you get them on.

[JFrost9]

The look alot like those stock 2000+ Celica rims... the ones like snapshotgt has (which look really good) I think these are going to look really nice. You can get tires now-a-days for really cheap.

[devilsden97]

yeah i like that they look stockish, just there larger, 17" and they are darker....i wanted the "hyber carbon" but they sold out. Hyper carbon is dark dark gun metal, almost black. but i am happy.


Any suggestions on performance tires...like companies? or specific tires? (215/40/17 is the tire size i need)

[Celicav]

Hey man. I have had the same set of Mille Miglia wheels since 2000 (6 years almost) and they still look like new. Great choice!

[j0e_p3t]

looks good. now get them on and take some pics.

[bufferdan]

You really didnt need that camber kit at all

Nice wheels and good width and offset. We just put some 17x8 +35 on my g/f's 96GT and lowered it. She got 215/45/17 tires and i would recommend that size over 215/40... I think 235/40 would clear fine with +35 offset and be perfect on 8in wide rims...

This post has been edited by bufferdan: Apr 14, 2006 - 12:00 AM

[presure2]

send the camber kit back.

[CelicaZR]

Good choice on wheels

[devilsden97]

You really didnt need that camber kit at all

Nice wheels and good width and offset. We just put some 17x8 +35 on my g/f's 96GT and lowered it. She got 215/45/17 tires and i would recommend that size over 215/40... I think 235/40 would clear fine with +35 offset and be perfect on 8in wide rims...

went to a local wheel place, they say that anything larger then 215 on the 8" wheel will rub in front. Can anyone verify?

Im looking at Falkin ZIEX ze 512 in 215/40 or 45/17 i can get them for $116 a piece. Only question is, if i get the 45 will they rub??

send the camber kit back.

its on route, im not gonna bother sending it back. Ill keep it and use it or sell it to someone who wants/needs it.

[celiracer]

Sorry to take this off subject but when would our celica's need a camber kit?

Very nice rims, Can't wait to see them on your ride.

This post has been edited by celiracer: Apr 15, 2006 - 2:10 PM

[devilsden97]

Sorry to take this off subject but when would our celica's need a camber kit?

Very nice rims, Can't wait to see them on your ride.

Eibach "highly suggests" ordering 2 camber adjusters when u order there springs. Me not knowing that i wouldnt really need them, ordered them.

Update: Rims, lugs, centercaps, springs, and camber adjusters should be here on Monday! WOOT!

I'm gonna order Falken ZIEX ZE 512 tires on monday, and they should arrive in 2 or 3 days.

Looking at maybe wedneday or friday for install. So excited....i cant wait.

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Apr 15, 2006 - 10:20 PM

[TheStreetzKing]

tina needs a camber kit and shes on eibachs, so i would put it on

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Don't get a 215 tire.....thats pretty narrow for a 17x8 wheel, and unless you have a rediculous drop, which you won't probably have with the springs, you definately aren't going to rub. Trust me.

I would use at least a 225/40/17 or 225/45/17, depending on how thick of a profile tire you want. You could even go with a 235 to really get some meat on those wheels but thats about it, otherwise the tire will bulge out beyond the wheel a little.....but you won't rub just by using a healthy size tire on a relatively wide wheel.

Get the right size tires so you can enjoy the merits of a nice wide wheel like that.

[lilsteeg]

i like them, the color and the design good choice

[devilsden97]

well to be more exact, after talking to Lagos about his tire's size, and reading some posts here, ive decide to get 225/45/17 Falken ZEIX ZE 512, im way excited and totally cant wait to get these puppies on, and take pics.

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Good choice

[devilsden97]

Rims just showed up, Ups 5 day beat Fedex's 2 day. lol Rim pics:


(^crazy bed spread, and my foot, Sambas by adidas size 9-1/2, first one looks grainy cuz i forgot to turn the lights on in my room, or use the flash )


(^this one is showing how wide they are. Thats a 50 cal bullet thats infront of it. upper left hand corner u see a black leather celica seat in 3 pieces, and my hidious rug.)


Update :

Fedex delivered the springs 1 hour after ups delievered the rims.


(^sportline box)


(^springs)


(^stack of goodies )

(Didnt bother getting a picture of the camber kit yet, but there the 2 boxes on top of the rim boxes)

Soooo happy! Cant wait to get it all put in, and on.


This post has been edited by devilsden97: Apr 17, 2006 - 1:46 PM

[Drocay]

those look good man, look almost exactly like TC wheels.

[devilsden97]

those look good man, look almost exactly like TC wheels.

yeah exactly what i was going for. look like stock, but not, there not flashy, so they dont grab cops attention or ricers, but true 6gc people know what they are.

[ILuvMyCelica95]

tina needs a camber kit and shes on eibachs, so i would put it on

exactly. I have the same springs and i got the same alignment kit. had it put in this weekend. I suggested it because my camber was WAY off. This helped a lot, along with the alignment and balancing. Better safe then sorry.

Edit: they look nice

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Apr 17, 2006 - 1:45 PM

[axelrduvirage]

could someone please remind me of the difference between jealousy and envy? i don't know which i'm feeling right now !

nice friggin' wheels..not too flashy, not to trashy!

what i really envy (or am jealous of) is the Sportline springs. let us know how the install goes and the effect on the ride (too stiff, bearable or just right).

[devilsden97]

Update: Just got the rims balanced, and the tires put on.

Falken zeix ze 512's



bad picture cuz it was getting dark, and my batteries are almost dead so flash doesnt work. Sorry, just take my word, there falkens.

Glimpse into the future
(i couldnt resist)




friday i have an appointment to have the springs put in, and an alignment done. CANT WAIT!!


Edit: other fun celica related stuff i did today:

Painted my old wood grain inlays red:



Then got ripped cuz it was red, and "ghey" so i repainted them black




And my garage floor afterwards:



me: very bored:



lol

This post has been edited by devilsden97: Apr 19, 2006 - 7:14 PM

[axelrduvirage]

whhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!

i wants pretty wheels too.
and springs.


lookin' good my man.

BTW don't want to sound like a vulture circling a rotting carcass (yes i do!) but what shape are your OEM wheels in and will they be going on the auction block one day?


[applause] ladies and gentlemen the cock-of-the-walk, the BMOC, the guy everyone aspires to become one day-- devilsden97 [/applause] jk , WTG on getting the wheels, bro.

[devilsden97]

they have some curb dmg. but im keeping them for the winter for right now. they have new tires put on no longer then a year ago. so for right now im keeping them, but idk, maybe ill just get some steelies and sell them off. idk well see.

[devilsden97]

ok heres some fun news! the shop that is putting in my springs called me about a half hour ago. Some linkage between my swayarms and my struts were broken in the back, and its gonna cost me $210 in parts to fix it. Doing some math, with help from someone else (cuz i couldnt bear to type it all into the calculator) the running total thus far is $1688.25 and that doesnt include there labor charge, which i dont know what it will be yet, and a $100 alignment. I figure $2,000 in the end. all to lower the car 1.5inches all around and put some rims on it....yeah not worth it, this will be my last mod, for a while.

edit: shop called, all installed, but no alignment Cost: $480 Total so Far: $2,168.50

And I called a place that does the alignments for lowered cars....$80 per hour, and he estimates it will take 3 hours. And I couldnt get an appointment till MAY 2nd! OMG This is such a hassle.


This post has been edited by devilsden97: Apr 21, 2006 - 3:47 PM

[95CelicaST]

ok heres some fun news! the shop that is putting in my springs called me about a half hour ago. Some linkage between my swayarms and my struts were broken in the back, and its gonna cost me $210 in parts to fix it. Doing some math, with help from someone else (cuz i couldnt bear to type it all into the calculator) the running total thus far is $1688.25 and that doesnt include there labor charge, which i dont know what it will be yet, and a $100 alignment. I figure $2,000 in the end. all to lower the car 1.5inches all around and put some rims on it....yeah not worth it, this will be my last mod, for a while.

edit: shop called, all installed, but no alignment Cost: $480 Total so Far: $2,168.50

And I called a place that does the alignments for lowered cars....$80 per hour, and he estimates it will take 3 hours. And I couldnt get an appointment till MAY 2nd! OMG This is such a hassle.

That sucks! so you are to drive about without an alignment?

I know how that whole money bit goes. I already have... umm.. -opens the calculator- about 1700 sunk into Suspension.

[bufferdan]

Its the sway bar end links...they dont go bad or break. But they do get jacked up when you try to take them off... Im willing to bet that THEY messed them up trying to get them off because they do get rusted and you have to work them off very slowly. Those endlinks costs 50$ each and there is one on each side in the rear. This is one reason why i do all the work myself. You can do a spring install in about 4hrs with normal tools...and if you messed up the endlinks doing it then oh well at least you learned something.

[devilsden97]

well got everything installed on saturday. Had a wake on sunday, and a funeral monday, so no pics yet. I think i have to bring the car back to the people who balance my tires and scream, cuz between 60 and 65mph the steering wheel jiggles back and forth really fast. (i figure that the tires werent balanced correctly) Im fairly annoyed by this, but still in good spirits, hopefully some pictures soon.

[bufferdan]

PIcs?

[devilsden97]

PIcs?

yeah sorry, im gonna try and get some nice pics like with a hot back round and stuff, been really busy. Lots went on last week. uh...also question, when i go over 60mph, my wheel shakes/vibrates. Its either the balane of the rims, or the alignment. But which would u say it is? Suggestions? Take it back to the same place and tell them that they did it wrong, and have they redo it, or bring it some where else and have them rebalance the rims, and see if it was that, or the alignment.


oh and for the pics, im thinking of going to a bank near me, it has a pretty open parking lot, and there is an IBM complex in back and when the suns going down, it looks way cool. Ill see if i can get into the complex and take pics, idk cant wait!

[bufferdan]

Wheels have to be off balance..take it back and tell them it shakes now and to rebalance them. Did you get hubcentric rings? If you dont have them that could be the problem also.

[devilsden97]

Wheels have to be off balance..take it back and tell them it shakes now and to rebalance them. Did you get hubcentric rings? If you dont have them that could be the problem also.

well ill do that, but they came with a ring in them, but there was a sticker that says "this whell is supplied with an installed centering ring., the centering ring may not be retained in this wheel if you change wheels. If this wheel is remoed you must also rmove the centerin rin from the ehicle bub befor instaling your spare tire or any different wheel." Then thers more with a phone number and blah blah ...the people at the place took them out/off, and gave me them and the C-clips that hooked them in....could that be the problem?

Good thing im a pack rat, cuz most people probally woulda tossed thos out.

[bufferdan]

Well you need those hubcentric rings... Thats probably the problem.

[devilsden97]

Well you need those hubcentric rings... Thats probably the problem.

your kidding? im gonna kill them! WTF ive been tearing up my tires (ok not that much) for a week bcause there morons and took those out? omg!

[bufferdan]

Well you need those hubcentric rings... Thats probably the problem.

your kidding? im gonna kill them! WTF ive been tearing up my tires (ok not that much) for a week bcause there morons and took those out? omg!

It wont tear your tires up... but you will get vibration alotta times without them because the wheel doesnt center on the hub properly.

[devilsden97]

Well you need those hubcentric rings... Thats probably the problem.

your kidding? im gonna kill them! WTF ive been tearing up my tires (ok not that much) for a week bcause there morons and took those out? omg!

It wont tear your tires up... but you will get vibration alotta times without them because the wheel doesnt center on the hub properly.

ok here is my question....can i just take the rims off, and put that ring in, and then put them back on, and they will be all good, and no shakes? or should i take it back and be like install it right!

This post has been edited by devilsden97: May 1, 2006 - 2:58 PM

[bufferdan]

You can do it yourself if you want by removing them and putting the rings on and torqueing the lugs down even

[devilsden97]

You can do it yourself if you want by removing them and putting the rings on and torqueing the lugs down even

yeah...star pattern to torque them down.....it pretty easy...im just wondering if the car will still be off balance. They can just be put in, without the clip that held them in right? or should i put in the clip tooo?

[devilsden97]

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...=0&#entry428806


some pics from the night.....u can see my new rims.

[devilsden97]

Well you need those hubcentric rings... Thats probably the problem.

after this post, and talking to manny (presure2) i decided that it would be worth a shot to install the rings myself...............2 hours later...done! took it for a drive, hit some back roads...60 then 70 no shake...so i pushed it further 80....90 no shake....i hit 100 no shake..then got off the gas let go of the wheel and coasted....no shake...all better.

Thanks guys for all the help. Pics are in GD under Hudson River Shoot.

Edit: Right after posting this, i went to work, and it shook bad! Angry.

This post has been edited by devilsden97: May 16, 2006 - 10:49 AM

[devilsden97]

ok so finally everything is done, the car drives like a dream, i had to take it to another place and get the rims balance. Now i have to go yell at sears for my $50 back that they charged me to balance them.

But i love it, sooo nice. Ill get some more pics of just my car as soon as i can.

Edit:

Mille Miglia HT3 Rims x 4 = $447 on atm card
Falken Zeix ze 512 tires x 4 (with stems and balancing) = $611 on atm card
Sportline Springs = $300 on atm card
Various labor charges = $1000+ (est) half on atm card, half cash
Taking it for a test drive and having to get the tires rebalanced somewhere else = $39 cash
Finally having this tire and rim ordeal over, a month after it started = Priceless

Somethings money can't buy, for everything else, charge it and worry about the payments till later



This post has been edited by devilsden97: May 15, 2006 - 4:00 PM

[zachattack15]

For mounting tires and balancing and installing springs you payed over $1000. Sucks to be you.

[devilsden97]

For mounting tires and balancing and installing springs you payed over $1000. Sucks to be you.

It does, doesnt it.


I forgot that in that labor was 2 pieces that connects the swaybars to the struts, they cost me $105 each

[zachattack15]

Makes me happy I know how to install my own suspension.

[devilsden97]

Makes me happy I know how to install my own suspension.

tried to get it done b4 csp...big mistake, and i ran into issues and stuff. oh well im happy now

[zachattack15]

You post pics yet???

[devilsden97]

You post pics yet???

no newer up to date ones, but heres ones from a while back, when i had them on, and it still shook.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=36750&st=0

[Speedy2k]

What size tires are you running? How are you liking the ZIEX 512?

[devilsden97]

What size tires are you running? How are you liking the ZIEX 512?

225/45/17's and i love them....my old stockers i could break the tires loose from the roadway...these 8" wide ones are hard to do....actually impossible to. (thats a lie, i did it last night, but the road was wet, and i stomped the gas from a dead stop to see if i could brake them loose, and i did, but only for a second, then they grabbed hard.)

(again i only have a stock 5sfe)

This post has been edited by devilsden97: May 18, 2006 - 12:06 PM

[ILuvMyCelica95]

you forgot to mention that if you listened to me in the first place you would have saved a lot of time, money and headaches... but no one pays attention to what i say hmmmmm Miggy Muffin?

[devilsden97]

yes yes tina was right, shoulda gone to her guy from the start. She knows all blah blah blah. lol