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post Jun 22, 2006 - 7:43 PM
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I was wondering if anybody has attempted to get a company to make us projecter headlights? There is alot of interest in these and there seems to be quite a few companies that do this. If they were sold cheaper than JDM I would get some. Has any body ever tried?
post Jun 22, 2006 - 8:09 PM
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no, I don't think so...but give it a shot! I'd be interested depending on price. Maybe you could get a GB together!

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post Jun 22, 2006 - 8:14 PM
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thats the only downside to our cars, even stock headlights are RIDICULOUSLY expensive frown.gif
post Jun 22, 2006 - 9:02 PM
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no, I don't think so...but give it a shot! I'd be interested depending on price. Maybe you could get a GB together!


As much as I'd like to get some kind of GB started, I'm to busy, and it would be a complete disaster. Has anybody ever done other things similar that might, want to make some phone calls, etc.

post Jun 24, 2006 - 2:01 AM
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This seems like a pretty interesting idea, the only thing is polishing and shaping the glass is so much work, and not to mention having to aquire or make housings, it would get expensive. Just look at the ones Doggy made.


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post Jun 24, 2006 - 4:26 AM
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It'll end up just as expensive as regular JDM's.


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post Jun 24, 2006 - 8:18 AM
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i think its the fact we have 2 lows and 2 highs, and plus our cars are rare, id rather keep it at jdm, jus think if we had chrome tail lights every other celica on the road would be riced out.. keep it at jdm
post Jun 24, 2006 - 1:10 PM
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I thought it would be a better alternative than to converting our lights to neons like some other people are thinking about doing.

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This seems like a pretty interesting idea, the only thing is polishing and shaping the glass is so much work, and not to mention having to aquire or make housings, it would get expensive. Just look at the ones Doggy made.

alot of other aftermarket projector lenses are made from plastic. Some companies charge maybe 150 for a pair since we have four lights, it should possibly come to be around $300 for all four if we can find the right company.
post Jun 24, 2006 - 4:35 PM
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QUOTE(Akimbo @ Jun 24, 2006 - 5:26 AM) [snapback]448356[/snapback]

It'll end up just as expensive as regular JDM's.

this is the money shot..... I did custom projectors an they were indeed more expensive than the JDM's
But I would be glad to make a lot of phone calls to try and help everyone else, I just do not know where to begin. Point me in the right direction?


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post Jun 24, 2006 - 7:13 PM
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this is the money shot..... I did custom projectors an they were indeed more expensive than the JDM's
But I would be glad to make a lot of phone calls to try and help everyone else, I just do not know where to begin. Point me in the right direction?


I found these companies that make headlights searching under Honda civic at AndysAutoSport: Maxzone, Anzo, Matrix, TYC, ACA, and YSD these are some starts.
post Jun 25, 2006 - 10:44 AM
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The only way to curb the expenses of making all four lights would be to use plastic lenses instead of clear glass. That of course would be much less expensive to make, and probably the only way any of these companies would want to do it.

Makes me wonder how hard it would be to make a mould of the stock glass lens, and just make clear ABS plastic lens replacements for our cars. All that would be needed then is a little customization of the factory lamp internals and you'd be about done.....however you'd need something like the stock projectors or Romas' design to be a real projector.


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post Jun 25, 2006 - 12:46 PM
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on another forum we had a group buy once from a company called depot performance lighting... the headlights were made by maxzone... i think people were quite happy with it... the price was $130 a set (but it was for 2 headlights... we need 4) and they needover 30+ people for that price

it was for clear reflector headlamps though. but i'm pretty sure most of you just want the clear lense anyway

if you want cheap headlights the only way would be to make them out of plastic... but then remember after a while they will start to oxidize

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post Jun 27, 2006 - 11:40 AM
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If you buy a set of all 4 JDM projectors, take it to some company in asia. They'll look at it, copy it, and make it for you. They can pretty much copycat anything. Then you can take those, come back to the states, and sell them. Main problem is you'll have to upfront a crap load of money. This is basically what most aftermarket automotive companies do.

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post Jun 27, 2006 - 1:00 PM
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SOMEONE TRY THIS OUT! biggrin.gif

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post Jun 27, 2006 - 2:06 PM
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Okay, I just sent a few emails to ask if they were interested. I emailed Maxzone, Anzo, TYC, and a few other places. Lets see what they say. Here's the email I sent them:

Dear ____________,
My name is Anh-Tuan Tran, I am a member of a 6th generation Celica forum known as www.6gc.net. I am writing to you guys because I am trying to find a manufacturer that can produce projector headlamp sets for the 1994-1999 (6th generation) Celicas. The 6th generation Celica comes with 4 headlamps, and there are currently no aftermarket company that produces aftermarket headlamps for these cars. Toyota, however; does make a JDM set of projector headlamps for the low beams and diamond clear headlamps for the high beams. They are very expensive, costing over $800 for the set. They take forever to get and not always easy to come by.
The main complaint with all 6th gen Celica owners is that their stock headlamps are ugly because the lamps are not clear and have ridges on the inside for “better light reflection.” All Celica owners hate the way it looks. Almost everyone who owns a 6th gen Celica have tried looking for cheaper alternatives to a better looking headlamp set that doesn’t cost them over $800. Most have fail, and those who succeeded end up spending over $800 to achieve better looking headlamps.
The main reason that I am writing to you guys is to ask if you have the capability of producing headlamps for the 6th gen Celicas. The design exist already, everybody loves the way the JDM Toyota headlamps look and consider it to be one of the best looking modifications to their car. You can take this design and make your own version out of it.
If you guys have the capability to produce these headlamps, let me know what all you need me to do in order to help you guys produce them. I can provide you with a lot of buyers, just let me know the minimum you need, and I’ll get that many.
Also, please let me know if you guys can produce them much cheaper than the JDM headlamps and give me an estimate of how much they will cost. I am thinking a price range of $300- $450 for all 4 headlamps will be reasonable for both the seller and buyer. You can sell the low beam and high beam headlamp sets separately too for around $250 each. There are a lot of Celica owners, I can guarantee 100% that you will make profit from producing these.
I can write up a formal proposal if you need or get you a list of names to prove to you guys that there are plenty of interests in having these made. The interest is worldwide, pretty much every Celica owner in the world wants them. If you can pitch this idea to whoever is in charge at _________, that would be most helpful. Thank you very much for your time.

Regards,
Anh-Tuan Tran


PS: here are some pictures for reference.
Stock Celica headlamps:
http://i2.ebayimg.com/02/i/07/64/dc/bd_1.JPG
http://web.comhem.se/~u31449127/images/Toy...d_framifran.jpg

JDM Projector Celica headlamps:
http://www.toyotaworld.com/accessories/cel...projector_2.jpg
http://www.toyotaworld.com/accessories/cel...ojector_3sm.jpg
http://www.toyotaworld.com/accessories/cel...projector_1.jpg


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That actually sounds very good CelicaSTX02. What did they say? lol


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QUOTE(WH95TE @ Jun 28, 2006 - 8:09 PM) [snapback]450198[/snapback]

That actually sounds very good CelicaSTX02. What did they say? lol


Well, Depo forwarded it to their Research Development department. They're going to see what kind of market there is for this product, and if they like what they see....they'll probably produce them. I told them to contact me or have me contact them so I can get together a petition or something to prove to them there is a good market for it.


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Well, Depo forwarded it to their Research Development department. They're going to see what kind of market there is for this product, and if they like what they see....they'll probably produce them. I told them to contact me or have me contact them so I can get together a petition or something to prove to them there is a good market for it.


Have you gotten any word back for the headlights.
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the legallity (dot approval) is the main thing keeping me away from jdm lenses and hid lights.

if the company making these could get dot approval on them then i'm sooo in.
post Jul 4, 2006 - 9:35 PM
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^^ well, that's something hard to do and if a company actually goes for it it's gonna pump up the price of those projectors so your best change still is on the JDM side


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QUOTE(Zimluura @ Jul 4, 2006 - 7:41 PM) [snapback]452044[/snapback]

the legallity (dot approval) is the main thing keeping me away from jdm lenses and hid lights.

if the company making these could get dot approval on them then i'm sooo in.

No one will ever comment on the legality of your lights as long as you modify them for LHD


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^^ true unless the cop is a celica lover and knows about it, and if that's the case you can still get away with it biggrin.gif


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It would OEM, no one but us would know. tongue.gif

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post Jul 18, 2006 - 12:35 AM
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QUOTE(CelicaSTX02 @ Jun 29, 2006 - 9:56 AM) [snapback]450320[/snapback]

QUOTE(WH95TE @ Jun 28, 2006 - 8:09 PM) [snapback]450198[/snapback]

That actually sounds very good CelicaSTX02. What did they say? lol


Well, Depo forwarded it to their Research Development department. They're going to see what kind of market there is for this product, and if they like what they see....they'll probably produce them. I told them to contact me or have me contact them so I can get together a petition or something to prove to them there is a good market for it.


Update please?

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yes def an update cuz in two weeks i'm buying them form toyota world, and i would much much much rather spend round 400 then 800, plus i still have to get a hid kit lol


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yes def an update cuz in two weeks i'm buying them form toyota world, and i would much much much rather spend round 400 then 800, plus i still have to get a hid kit lol


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no updates???


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what did happen to this...i was looking forward to this!!
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Well I sent an email to In Pro Car Wear, and got an email back just like CelicaSTX02 got, "they would forward it to the Research Development.."
I'm thinking were going to have to have someone with a bigger name do it like boosted6g, since he has more of a reputation and say with body styling. But I'll keep trying.
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this thread dropped off for better part of a month? Does this mean it's a lost cause? For some reason I get the idea that "forwarding it on to our research dept." is a form of saying "we'll do lunch" or "we'll keep in touch" but I hope I'm wrong.

No new news?


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yeah, wasn't really expecting much. good thing i didn't get my hopes up.


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Im ordering mine from england and all 4jdm's are going to cost me 500 euros shipped. Its not bad cos theres four lights on our cars insted of almost every other cars only have two lights so the price is almost the same exept that we have to buy two sets. Lows for 250 and hi's 250. Its just that you can't get four lights in the price of just one pair.

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Ok please don't blame me for the size or the quality of the pic... I just don't have photoshop on my new PC. I still have to install it....

Well but i found this pic of a ST202c in the 2nd edition of the japanese hyper rev Celica Edition Magazine.

For me it looks like an aftermarket headlight kit... Others might say they are just smoked JDM... Well why is there a 3letter long label on it???

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those three letters probably say GTO which is a headlight cover


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QUOTE(Shocker @ Aug 27, 2006 - 3:55 AM) [snapback]473331[/snapback]

those three letters probably say GTO which is a headlight cover


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Haha, i guess nothing happened with this? Any replied emails? tongue.gif


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DOT means nothing...at least not in NJ or at the Rte 46 and Secaucus stations. Last inspection, my headlights failed cuz my DOT approved Sylvania Silverstars failed. Supposedly had a bluish/rainbowish color to them up close but they didnt say anything about my JDM tails which arent DOT aproved. Go figure.


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If you're getting a sign up list together of people that would buy if they were made, count me in. That or if anybody custom makes em, shoot me a pm with pricing.


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I'm working on a set now.. clear lows with acura tsx projectors and clear high beam lenses.. affordable as well. It's coming along quite well.. should have a finished set next week.


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update on with some pics at least of the progress...no matter how the condition and case is...i think we all wanna see how it will turn out later....some us some teaser...
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i paid toyota world almost 200 for 2 standard high beam lesnses if i could pay a little more and get 4 projectors i'd be on that quicker than a fly on ****


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I'll put up a teaser soon.. There are a lot of things to be considered in designing them .. so they look good and function better.


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QUOTE(Punisher @ Mar 3, 2007 - 11:19 PM) [snapback]532595[/snapback]

I'll put up a teaser soon.. There are a lot of things to be considered in designing them .. so they look good and function better.


hahaha.,. just take a pic of whatever you got and post it up...i just want to see what parts your using and starting with...despite what you mention, just picture it out for all of us! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Mar 4, 2007 - 12:19 AM) [snapback]532595[/snapback]

I'll put up a teaser soon.. There are a lot of things to be considered in designing them .. so they look good and function better.

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It is worthless.. but I have school.. a gf.. and other obligations.. I'm working on this as fast as I can. This stuff doesn't just happen over night.. If I wanted to turn some crap ass lookin product out.. then sure I'll ship monday.


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QUOTE(Punisher @ Mar 10, 2007 - 4:18 AM) [snapback]534952[/snapback]

It is worthless.. but I have school.. a gf.. and other obligations.. I'm working on this as fast as I can. This stuff doesn't just happen over night.. If I wanted to turn some crap ass lookin product out.. then sure I'll ship monday.

it's ok, sorry smile.gif

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just wanted to give you guys an update.. I have everything figured out on paper to mount the projectors in the stock low beam housings..

Now I'm just working on making a mold of the glass lens so I can make clear plastic lenses... This project hasn't died.. just been busy.. I'm doing a 3sgte swap on a 4th gen soon.. so I want to get a set of these done before I start that job.


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87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
post Mar 29, 2007 - 4:08 PM
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Awesome, depending on the finished product you can probably count me in as well.


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