Gt-Four vs. CBR 600RR, enjoy the video.... Options

[tufy]

http://rapidshare.de/files/25535826/celica_cbr600.wmv.html

http://www.hemenpaylas.com/download/116618...cbr600.wmv.html

ok guys here is the story of the race...
i went to this cbr guy and offered a race.
here is converisation:

tufy: do you want to race with me.
guy: which one is yours
tufy: red one
guy: (looked arround) and which bike?
tufy: not bike the red car
guy: did you ever raced with a bike? i passed many ferraries with my bike..
tufy: we will see no proplem for me if you pass me..
guy: do you have nos
tufy: nope
guy: ok then

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 18, 2006 - 9:54 AM

[playr158]

holy crap tufy that is amazing your crushing bikes....although i have to say thats crazy did the bike even know how to ride....you can't really be that fast...now can you?

[Shocker]

wowsers thatats pure speed

[94_st_hatchback]

damn..seems like he wasnt even close to you!

This post has been edited by 94_st_hatchback: Jul 18, 2006 - 2:24 AM

[lagos]

you beat a bike?!!!!?!?!?!?!?! OMFG!!!! thats amazing!!!!!

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Sick.

[j0e_p3t]

can someone please post that vid somehow so i don't have to download that thing.

[Jen]

mmmm. we should get married.

really though, very impressive.

[tufy]

mmmm. we should get married.

really though, very impressive.

me or my car

[Jen]

mmmm. we should get married.

really though, very impressive.

me or my car

BOTH. duh.

[purplegt4]

holy sh!t nice.

sounds like the bike just gave up LOL! haha

[j0e_p3t]

wow... even more powerful than a crotch rocket. i guess that guy didn't have enough power between his legs. love your car.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Jul 18, 2006 - 3:11 AM

[daazndood]

can you tell me your 0-60mph(or 100 kmph) time or your quarter mile?

quarter mile=400meters

[Predator]

i bow to thee, official celi god

[CelicaZR]

I got a special preview of this clip
You know how I feel about your car
Can't wait for the finishing touches.

[chacha]

can't see the results...won't let me go any further...oh well.

[dustinkemp]

Tufy, your car is amazing, i cant believe that it is so fast, i bow to you!

[sinner96ST]

nice kill.. you need to tell that guy on the RR to shift better!

tufy, what do you think your car can do in the 1/4 mile? have you been to the track? i just watched the video again, i could've swore the RR bounced it off the rev limiter.

This post has been edited by sinner96ST: Jul 18, 2006 - 8:39 AM

[Kadett]

WOW

But serious. Tufy's 0-60 would be about 3-4 seconds. The bike does the same. I think it would be nice if the next bike was a Suzuki GSXR 1000 or Yamaha R1/R6

[tufy]

WOW

But serious. Tufy's 0-60 would be about 3-4 seconds. The bike does the same. I think it would be nice if the next bike was a Suzuki GSXR 1000 or Yamaha R1/R6

come on guys. gsxr 1000 have a 1/4 mile time at 9's i dont have a chance.


This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 18, 2006 - 9:27 AM

[dustin15brown]

omfg

[jdg371]

omfg

x2!

And that was from a dig!

[Jeremy1210]

Yeah can someone host that video cuse I can't seem to be able to get it to open without paying for it

[tufy]

Yeah can someone host that video cuse I can't seem to be able to get it to open without paying for it

http://www.hemenpaylas.com/download/116618...cbr600.wmv.html

[Remy]

LOL nice tufy !!!!

[LewFX]

doesnt even look like it was a race but a biker following you!

[BluuFire]

WOW!!!!!!!!! That was awesome! Incredibly Amazing Car Tufy!

This post has been edited by BluuFire: Jul 19, 2006 - 10:06 AM

[Kadett]

Still it would be nice to see you up against it

What do you think your 1/4 time would be. Low 11 maybe in the 10's??

[bloodrain]

i love the 2nd gear chirp, raw power :-D

[tomazws]

Amazing. Pure hotness, pure speed... god damn it..

[Drew-887]

All I got to say is WOW!!!!!

[DG_Performance]

That was a cool vid but....
That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
He did not leave the line right, missed 2nd gear, and let off half way thourgh 3rd after the celica cut in the middle of the road. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better. That bike with a good rider would not loose i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike and it would not be getting the lead from the start either. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad. Tuffy did get the kill on that race, but a good bike rider would not go down like that!

This post has been edited by DG_Performance: Jul 18, 2006 - 4:20 PM

[daazndood]

hey tufy, may i drive your car?

[Yellow94GT]

That was a cool vid but....
That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600!
He did not leave the line right, missed 2nd gear, and let off half way thourgh 3rd after the celica cut in the middle of the road. It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better. That bike with a good rider would not loose i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock. I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike and it would not be getting the lead from the start either. Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad. Tuffy did get the kill on that race, but a good bike rider would not go down like that!

DG_Performance I read your post. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39330&st=20
I would like to say that the biker was not smooth or very experienced, but the Celica had too much power for that CBR600. I like bikes it’s just that that bike and that car combination even with a seasoned veteran cyclist would have not produced a win for the CBR in my opinion. I not trying to give you a hard time. I just wanted to respond to your thoughts.

1. “That biker did not know how to ride and at a quick look it looks like he weighs 300lbs on that little 600! “
Looks like around 175 - 190lbs to me.
2. “He (biker) did not leave the line right.”
We don’t get the opportunity to view pre-launch rpm for the CBR or the Celica. I agree the biker should be definitely pulling the front wheel in 1st and 2nd gear shifts. He did however, appear to leaning with his chest on the fuel tank.
3. “(biker) missed 2nd gear. “
Sounds like he didn’t let off the throttle between shifts. Not smooth.
4. “(Biker) let off half way through 3rd”.
The Celica is still pulling away from the CBR at this time.
5. “after the celica cut in the middle of the road.”
The Celica has several lengths on the CBR at that time. The Biker knew that he could even match the Celica, let alone beat it. There are trees beside the road. The move both toward the center to clear the trees. The CBR isn’t being cut off. Look more like zoom lens distortion. Most footage in zoom/ telephoto looks make vehicle looks closer than without zoom.
6. “It would be cooler to see how it would do up against a stock celica cause most of you guys would relate better.”
I think most know that a CBR 600 would absolutely kill a stock USDM Celica GT or ST or even a stock JDM Celica.
7. “That bike with a good rider would not loose.”
I respect your opinion. I don’t agree.
8. “i owned a gixxer 1000 and that bike ran high 9's stock.”
9. “I know of a 900hp supra that barely pulls on a bike “
In another thread Tufy beat a “1000bhp” Supra. There is an earlier vid. of this race also. Four wheel drive can really do surprisingly well against many higher powered vehicles. http://www.rateyourgarage.com/1050bhpSupra...0bhpGt-Four.MOV
10. “and it would not be getting the lead from the start either.”
The Celica is about 2500lbs and has 400 plus bhp four wheel drive. The Celica has the advantage.
I have ridden in a 400bhp 2400lb car and could beat all makes of 700cc bikes with only rear wheel drive. I completely think he could do this on a regular basis.
11. “Sorry if i sound anti tuffy but... on the positive side it looks like tuffy must be a good driver to make a bike with a bad rider look that bad.”
I personally don’t think you sound anti Tufy at all.
12. “Tuffy did get the kill on that race, “
Yeah and it was fun to watch.
13. “but a good bike rider would not go down like that!”
Again, I respect your opinion. I don’t agree.


Best Regards
Yellow94GT

[Yellow94GT]

http://rapidshare.de/files/25535826/celica_cbr600.wmv.html

http://www.hemenpaylas.com/download/116618...cbr600.wmv.html

ok guys here is the story of the race...
i went to this cbr guy and offered a race.
here is converisation:

tufy: do you want to race with me.
guy: which one is yours
tufy: red one
guy: (looked arround) and which bike?
tufy: not bike the red car
guy: did you ever raced with a bike? i passed many ferraries with my bike..
tufy: we will see no proplem for me if you pass me..
guy: do you have nos
tufy: nope
guy: ok then

I love the pre-race conversation. I enjoyed the vid.

Yellow94GT

[Remy]

damn tufy you took out a highly modded supra too ??? Your my new HERO !!!!

[pure_dx]

damn, just look at tuffy's mod list, holy sh!t, agreed tufy is one of the faster guys on here, where is cyprus? thats in new zealand?

[WH95TE]

Amazing, I love your car lol. You're going to have a folder on my computer with all the videos.

damn tufy you took out a highly modded supra too ??? Your my new HERO !!!!

It would have been different if the Supra didnt have 1050hp. A lot of people think omfg 1000+hp Supra! But numbers that high are just that, numbers. Tons of turbo lag when you have that much power. Still a nice win though lol.

This post has been edited by WH95TE: Jul 19, 2006 - 12:58 AM

[tufy]

kadett
i dont have a track time yet... but my car should be arround low 11's with 1.4 bars boost. i am planning to boost higher at dragster next week (1.6 seems ok) after checking a/f ratio with my 850cc sards.. shame that i still dont have my hks 1000cc's.

lets say bike coulnd lunch.. and coulnt shift 2nd gear. ( its 1.5 cars behind me now)
what about. between 100-200 kmph that i passed him at least 5 cars at the end..

i heard same words after i raced with 1050bhp supra. they said guy doesnt know how to drive i am not a profesional driver at all.. but this time at bike race i had advantage of my new shift light and higher rev limit

an other guy with 900bhp m3 with nos offered me race for 1000 usd... this time i ll make a good investigation about the driver before i race

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 2:56 AM

[WH95TE]

Even if the Supra did know how to drive, its just too much power. If he had less hp it would have been more of a race lol.

Keep us updated with the m3, that would be interesting.

[neoklis]

Having seen Tufy's car on the Dyno last month, I can vouch that the car is sick. The car has an immence amount of power. Everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a 4wd car with probably one of the best 4wd transmission ever built (TORSEN from TORque SENsor)

Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.

Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.

[dustin15brown]

Even if the Supra did know how to drive, its just too much power. If he had less hp it would have been more of a race lol.

Keep us updated with the m3, that would be interesting.

how do you figure that? If it's properly tuned and so forth and he obviously knows what he is doing... i dont see him losing to many if any lower hp supras.... Good job tufy

[tufy]

Having seen Tufy's car on the Dyno last month, I can vouch that the car is sick. The car has an immence amount of power. Everybody seems to forget that we are talking about a 4wd car with probably one of the best 4wd transmission ever built (TORSEN from TORque SENsor)

Also we are taking about a CBR600 which is not the fastest out there but on general quite fast. Bikes may have a killer acceleration but having all the power in just one tyre makes impossible to compare launch of a bike with a 4wd car.

Hey Tufy I believe you should start thinking about an upgraded suspension and you should look after your transmission as I learn you drag race almost daily.

neoklis....
Don't worry man... i dont drive fast, i just fly low
i already have after market suspentions. for now transmission seems ok. i dont know whats going to be with higher boost. i have some future plans for gearbox. but its not the next step. next is brakes to stop this monster....
p.s. flying was just a joke i drive slowly and i dont push my car so much. i drag race 1-2 times a month only

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 7:46 AM

[Jeremy1210]

Nice job on toasting that bike. You're car is amazing

I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.

I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.

Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight

Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71

Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94

Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.

[tufy]

Nice job on toasting that bike. You're car is amazing

I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.

I'm not doubitn that your car is amazing and everything i'd like in a celica, but to beat a bike needs a person who knows how to ride a bike for it to be really impressive win.

Manufacturer Model Hp Torque Quarter Mile Wet Weight

Honda CBR600F4i ('01) 95.5 @ 12,500 42.6 @ 10,250 10.71

Honda CBR600RR ('03) 105.4 @ 13,500 43.7 @ 11,250 10.94

Unless your car can do this, it was bike rider error.

here is some times that i take from www. dragtimes.com
time------speed

10.942---125.190--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Dustin
11.339---126.540--honda CBR 600RR 2003 bryan
11.440---120.200--Honda CBR 600rr 2003 Nick

i think cbr 600rr is not that fast.. my car should be arround 11 sec.. that is so close to cbr 600.
not to be even closer to me should be cbr drivers fault. but its not his fault that he coulnt pass me..

edit: i am sorry if dustin, bryan and nick doesnt know how to drive too..

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 19, 2006 - 9:23 AM

[CilverSeliST205]

I am going to have to agree with DG on this one about the rider not knowing **** about racing on that bike. He either doesn't know how to ride or he was just following you, cause a bike is pretty freaking quick and it should beat you off the line b/c of the weight that it has compared to yours, just like how Fwd or RWD beat AWD of the line b/c of that grip issue or whatever its called.

You got that mixed up... only time 2wd has advantage on 4wd is on a roll and definitely not off the line

i dont drive fast, i just fly low

Tuffy your car is amazing and this quote goes into my signature

Just out of curiosity, IF YOU HAD TO how much would you sell your car for ?

[DG_Performance]

DG_Performance I read your post. http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39330&st=20
I would like to say that the biker was not smooth or very experienced, but the Celica had too much power for that CBR600. I like bikes it’s just that that bike and that car combination even with a seasoned veteran cyclist would have not produced a win for the CBR in my opinion. I not trying to give you a hard time. I just wanted to respond to your thoughts.

Again, I respect your opinion. I don’t agree. [/u]

Best Regards
Yellow94GT
[/quote]

I also respect your opinion and will continue to stick with my own.
I have owned 4 streetbikes and know for a fact... that car should not have beat that bike..... (especially that bad)! Even tuffy says a few post later the 600's are running high tens and he should be close to low elevens which means he is saying he is close to being as fast as those 600 bike times but he dont think he is hitting those times yet. So when he goes to the track and runs a better time than the bike times you can pm me and tell me i was wrong.
I hope i am proved wrong .... but i highly highly doubt that will happen!!

[richgt4]

The point of the fact is that the bike rider was sure he'd win as he stated to Tufy that he's beaten Ferraris before.


Bike rider thought he'd win hands down & he got beat fair & square!!!!

Well done Tufy. All bike riders are gay anyway with a fetish for wearing tight leather clothes

A lot of drag racing is driver skill. There is a member on the OC in England that can run low 12's in his GT4 & it's almost stock.

It's all in the technique. Thats what I tell the girls anyway

Rich

This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 21, 2006 - 4:35 PM

[Wolf_tm]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

[tufy]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 5:03 AM

[Kadett]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.
p.s:
i passed a few cbr 400's with my slightly modifed gt four when i first have my car.

Those numbers say alot to me. Is the GT4 of alex a Red WRC? Did he make the website www.st205.net If so a Dutch member has bought his car a few months ago!

[tufy]

nope.. this is a black gt four. i just checked his profile. he has serius modifications.. i cant say slightly modified. but its still 350 bhp. i dont know why. (magic has 320 bhp with stock turbo and stock internals)
here is link to his car
http://www.gt4oc.net/owners/owners_page.php?owner=62

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 6:22 AM

[Wolf_tm]

A car that stock runs 400m @ 14.1 seconds, cannot run in 12 low only for the driver's ability.

he said almost stock. may be he meant ''not heavily modified''..
i now a 342 bhp gt four( owned by alex knight) st 205 that is running 1/4 mile @12.55 sec . its very easy to buld a 342 bhp st205.

Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:

for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.

PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.

Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...

++++

www.st205.net was made by a great friend of mine, a really special person I met in October 2005 at the Ring.... Dan Johnson !



Bye.

[Kadett]

Well then it is Dan Jonhson who sold his car to someone here in the Netherlands.

[richgt4]

Well then it is Dan Jonhson who sold his car to someone here in the Netherlands.

He sold his car to Ibz & then Ibz sold his car to the fella in Holland

Rich

[richgt4]

Here you go. This is the midly tuned Celica I was talking about:

http://www.tengoku-racing.com/phpBB2/viewt...der=asc&start=0

Runs constant mid 12's

There is a thread on the OC forum, but I don't know how to post up the link lol

Rich

This post has been edited by richgt4: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:12 AM

[tufy]

Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:

for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.

PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.

Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...

magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 22, 2006 - 11:39 AM

[richgt4]

The thread on the GT4OC forum is in the 'Off topic discussion' section & the title is 'anyone smell a great launch'

Non members can access this section too

Enjoy the read

Rich

[Chanh55]

Wow. Very nice tufy, I wanna see you hit up some Ferraris now... haha. I'm not sure if anyone else rehosted the file yet, but I put it on youtube a lot easier to view. I just uploaded it so it may take a bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKTAxehcuhE

[Wolf_tm]

Ah ok,
it's only on what we mean:

for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp.

PS: i am talking about REAL hp because I read that in USA born a new unit of measurement...... the DYNOJET's HP !!!
And the same MR.Dinojet had to admit, on 3 american magazines, that their dynos give power numbers 20% more than real.

Please ALWAYS specify if we are talking about HP or DJ HP...

magic has 255 awhp and 320 engine power. Alex's 350 bhp st 205 probaply has less then 290 whp which you can also call it slightly modifed.
when we take our cars to a rolling dyno we like to talk about whp's because engine power is calculated and may not be accurate..
btw although st205.net is not updated for years, but still it is a great site. have great infos....

Sorry,

I need to explain better then...

Dinojet's WHEEL HP are 20% more than real.


Just reporting from an EVO forum:

" We all just need to be clear that Dynojet numbers ARE NOT ACTUAL WHP NUMBERS. If anything the numbers a Dynojet spits out are more closely related to flywheel numbers.

Before anyone opens their mouth to argue the point, the inventor, designer, originator of the Dynojet openly stated this a few months back in 3 major automotive magazines. I actually quoted what he had to say here.
__________________
David Buschur
www.buschurracing.com "

[boibleu22]

The point of the fact is that the bike rider was sure he'd win as he stated to Tufy that he's beaten Ferraris before.



Well done Tufy. All bike riders are gay anyway with a fetish for wearing tight leather clothes



Rich

you realize that the leathers are for protection, not looks?

[boibleu22]

3. “(biker) missed 2nd gear. “
Sounds like he didn’t let off the throttle between shifts. Not smooth.

obviously, you dont own a bike. anyone who has ever ridden a bike can tell from the video that 2nd gear was missed. he went from 1st gear (after a horrible start) to neutral, where all he did was rev it, then finally to 2nd. his miss into neutral is what lost him the race. yes its his fault, yes the GT4 won, but u can see how he lost it. tufy's car may be fast, but not that fast..

[Manta5x]

I wish I had some power

[tufy]

3. “(biker) missed 2nd gear. “
Sounds like he didn’t let off the throttle between shifts. Not smooth.

obviously, you dont own a bike. anyone who has ever ridden a bike can tell from the video that 2nd gear was missed. he went from 1st gear (after a horrible start) to neutral, where all he did was rev it, then finally to 2nd. his miss into neutral is what lost him the race. yes its his fault, yes the GT4 won, but u can see how he lost it. tufy's car may be fast, but not that fast..

OK GUYS.... i know that i dont have fastest car in world...
but..
how can you know about my car? lets say that you now from video. how can you know that i drived my car with no mistake...

This post has been edited by tufy: Jul 25, 2006 - 1:06 AM

[neoklis]

Hey guys, I really cant understand what te fuss is about. Yea the CBR is fast. So did the 1000 hp Supra. The fact is that they both underestimated the Celi and they pay for it. They have been killed on the road by that red celi and the whole world now knows about it. I dont care if the have a million reasons for getting beaten. The fact is that Tufy remains unbeaten.!!!!!

This is why i dont race with just anyone. Any car has the potential to become really fast.

[TomPoz]

...for me "almost stock" is an ebc/dp/full exhaust for about 280/290 REAL fw hp...

A bit off-top but is it possible to get to 350 hp on wheels with ebc, piggyback, 3" dp plus exhaust, upgrade fuel pump, fuel pressure regulator?

[Kadett]

Nope

[richgt4]

The point of the fact is that the bike rider was sure he'd win as he stated to Tufy that he's beaten Ferraris before.



Well done Tufy. All bike riders are gay anyway with a fetish for wearing tight leather clothes



Rich

you realize that the leathers are for protection, not looks?

Well F**k me sideways if your not as bright as Einstein! Not much gets past you does it?

<Talking in really, really sarcastic voice now>

The leathers are for protection & not looks????? I learn something new every day

Richypoos

[richgt4]

& it doesn't matter if the biker got a bad start or missed a gear or changed up too early, blah, blah, balh!

The biker was certain that he would whoop Tufy's ass as he said to Tufy,

"You know I've beaten ferraris right?"

aaaaaaand, your point is Mr. tight leather pants wearing man?

Big deal, so he's beaten the odd Itallion Stallion now & then.

Fact is Tufy threw down the gauntlet there & then & the biker got beat.

Everyone knows that cars are faster around race tracks anyway. It was proven on Top Gear

Rich

[Insanity-74]

I race bikes all the time...very rarely win, but the gap isnt that far.....with a bit more power than I have it would be possible to win a few more races. Bikes cant use all there power off the line which is why AWD cars stand a chance..no matter how slim it may be. The biker had his chance and blew it, Tufy took his chance and won....well done to you Tufy...dont listen to the nay sayers...when it came to it, you won...end of story...nuf said.

[maikl]

nice race !!! how about racing my bike? 156whp and 167kg (dry)?????? my first gear goes up to 160km/h ha ha ha!!!!!

This post has been edited by maikl: Jul 27, 2006 - 2:22 PM

[Kadett]

Yamaha R1?

[maikl]

kawasaki ninja zx-10r..............

[Driveby]

Nice win tufy, way to rep the 4
Just for your info, Alex sold his 4 a few months ago to raise funds for a house purchase.

[richgt4]

Here is the link with Tufy racing the Supra

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hvv5qGRbEA...ch=celica%20gt4

Rich

[TomPoz]

Nope

So the guy I know who has just finished 800 hp Supra, upgrades 380 hp Almera and works on his own 5gc 4WD to get 300 hp and 400 Nm (with very similar setup to one I described) is wrong?

Getting back to the subject - looking at the video with Subaru and Supra for me it is obvious that whoever has a good start on this particular road you are racing on, wins the race. There is no chance to make up for the late start due to the small width and trees getting in the way. Which does not change the fact that Tufy is impressive fighter using very impressive weapon. Respect.

This post has been edited by TomPoz: Jul 27, 2006 - 6:03 PM

[CelicaGT04]

give the man some credit... regardless of how the race went his car beat a freaking bike. I dont know many cars that can say that much less a CELICA!!! PROPS man..

GT04

[Taylor]

Props to you man. Good stuff.