When the world goes to S**t, give it a read, UK problems Options

[fastgt]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...ror/index.html


oh boy...apparently some of the planes were coming here

[playr158]

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This post has been edited by playr158: Aug 10, 2006 - 10:47 AM

[fastgt]

well just go to cnn.com..or any news website....trust me its big news right now

[BlackCelicaGT94]

Yeah I heard about this. Its kinda weird like people at my work didnt hear about it. How can you live your life not knowing whats going on in the world?!

Anyways yeah its crazy but luckily it was stopped.

U.S.: Airline terror plot 'close to execution'
Security chief: Plans reminiscent of al Qaeda

Thursday, August 10, 2006; Posted: 11:46 a.m. EDT (15:46 GMT)

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Manage Alerts | What Is This? WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Terrorists were in the final stages of planning to blow up planes heading to the United States from Britain, U.S. Homeland Security Secretary Michael Chertoff said Thursday.

The plot was the "greatest terrorist threat" against the United States since 9/11, government officials are saying privately.

Information gathered after recent arrests in Pakistan convinced British investigators they had to act immediately to stop the plot, sources told CNN.

A British security official told Reuters news service the plotters could have been just days away from their attacks.

The plans were "suggestive of an al Qaeda plot," Chertoff said.

British police said they had arrested 21 suspects in the plot to blow up passenger jets flying between the United Kingdom and the United States.

The effects of the plot rippled across the globe Thursday.


The U.S. raised the terror threat level to "severe" for all flights leaving Britain for the United States. Britain raised its alert level to "critical."


The plot involved hiding liquid explosives in carry-on luggage, U.S. officials said.


Passengers at all U.S. and British airports, and those boarding U.S.-bound flights at other international airports, are banned from taking any liquids onto planes. British police are also banning passengers from carrying electronic key fobs, which have the potential to trigger bombs. (Watch what passengers must do at the world's busiest international airport -- 3:06)


A U.S. administration official said the plot targeted Continental, United, British Airways and American Airlines flights to New York, Washington and California. (Map of flight delays)


Six to 10 flights were targeted, U.S. officials said.


U.S. and British officials said some suspects could still be on the loose and their investigations were continuing.


Flights were canceled or delayed at airports across Europe and the United States as the new security measures produced massive lines at airports. (Full story)


In a sign of the heightened security, Chertoff said the U.S. was dispatching extra air marshals to Britain.


Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney ordered the National Guard to Boston's Logan Airport.

Police said they were still raiding businesses and homes, and Chertoff said it was unclear if all suspects were in custody.

Chertoff said the plotters were "getting close to the execution phase."

"There were very concrete steps under way to execute all elements of the plan," he said.

The plot was "intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale," London's Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson said. (Full story)

British investigators are telling the U.S. that terrorists planned "to get on board with liquid substances that when mixed could be turned into something that could be detonated." (

'Untold death and destruction' planned -- 2:37)

"What makes it frightening is the sophistication to turn relatively common materials into a dangerous" bomb, a U.S. intelligence official told CNN.

Passengers "were not yet sitting on an airplane," but were very close to traveling, a senior U.S. counterterrorism official told The Associated Press.

Chertoff said the plan was reminiscent of a plot by 9/11 coordinator Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, who in 1995 had envisioned detonating bombs on 11 airlines possibly traveling over the Pacific Ocean.

The plot was "as sophisticated as any we have seen in recent years as far as terrorism is concerned," Chertoff said. (Watch Chertoff detail the threat to blow up jetliners -- 7:38)

CNN terror analyst Peter Bergen said two factors pointed to the influence of al Qaeda. He said al Qaeda was "obsessed" with commercial aviation and that the timing of the plot was "very interesting."

"It's not clear when this was going to be implemented ... but we are coming up on the fifth anniversary of 9/11. They do want to make a big statement," he said on CNN's "American Morning."

Britain's threat warning level has been raised to "critical" -- meaning an attack is expected imminently.

The U.S. threat level has been raised to the highest level of "severe," or red, for commercial flights originating in the United Kingdom bound for the United States, according to the Department of Homeland Security. (Full story)

In addition, the threat level has been raised to "high," or orange for all commercial flights operating in or coming to the United States, the DHS said.

The nation's overall terror threat level has not been altered.

Thursday was the first time the DHS has raised the threat level for a specific group of flights.

New security restrictions
"Due to the nature of the threat revealed by this investigation, we are prohibiting any liquids, including beverages, hair gels, and lotions from being carried on the airplane," a DHS statement said.

Increased security means airline passengers around the country should show up at least two hours early for all flights, an official with the Transportation Security Administration told CNN. (Watch tips on how to get through security faster -- 1:45)

British and U.S. security agencies quickly moved to impose strict limits on carry-on items in the wake of Thursday's arrests, causing extended delays at airport security checkpoints. (Full story)

The British Airports Authority said no hand luggage would be allowed onto planes leaving British airports until further notice.

British Airways canceled all short haul flights in or out of Heathrow Airport for Thursday, and delays were stacking flights up at airports across Europe. (Full story)

This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Aug 10, 2006 - 10:59 AM

[fastgt]

I just wish the US would take a few ideas from the UK and use intelligence to stop attacks rather than allow the attack and retaliate against the wrong country later

**yea i know, i just put on my flame suit**

[Mynzeyes]

I just wish the US would take a few ideas from the UK and use intelligence to stop attacks rather than allow the attack and retaliate against the wrong country later

**yea i know, i just put on my flame suit**

i still say the US Government was behind 9/11...blah.

[fastgt]

john i agree with you completely...but like always there are people who disagree.

have you seen the loose change video?

[Mynzeyes]

john i agree with you completely...but like always there are people who disagree.

have you seen the loose change video?

yep. amazingly done. i even suspected it a loooong time before that. that just reinforces it that much more.

[fastgt]

yeah that video really puts a new perspective on our gov't

[Mynzeyes]

yeah that video really puts a new perspective on our gov't

i just like how they come out and say how there were so many people caught, and how this reinforces that we are at war with extremists, bla bla bla...but we didn't catch shxt. the british police caught them. our government couldnt' do anythintg about it, let alone our police. if it wasn't for the UK not having their heads up their asses, we'd have another one to blame on bin laden...whom we would then not even look for..........

This post has been edited by Mynzeyes: Aug 10, 2006 - 11:09 AM

[fastgt]

its funny on the video how 10 or so of those involved 9/11 are living happily in their countries.....

odd dont people die when planes crash???

Wheres Bin Laden????? Do you think a CIA trained terrorist will allow himself to get caught that easy?

seriously were all f*ed


This post has been edited by fastgt: Aug 10, 2006 - 11:21 AM

[Mynzeyes]

odd dont people die when planes crash???

not always. but hey, they told us everyone died in all the crashes, and the planes melted away. . and we aren't finding bin laden, bc we aren't looking for him, bc he had nothing to do with it bc of the state he's in. bend over everyone, so the government can blow more smoke up your asses.

[fastgt]

You know if the gov't wanted to do a better job of tricking us with crappy videos and crappy stories....they should of hired FOX...theyre good at making stuff up

[Shocker]

And to believe i used to stand so strongly behind our government...
that all went to **** since the past few years..
We need that V guy...
Just goes to show power money and greed will run all and every no matter what a country was founded on.

i hate when i hear people dis America but hell we set ourselves up for it...

and that bin laden crap...We could have found him if we reeally wanted..

but bush(i wont capitalize his name) had to make a big deal out of it and let every body know and send all these kids...my freinds.18yrs old..1 left 3 monthes after his birthday
and just had to make it all a big show..when hes proll calling bin laden on the telephone telling him he has o leave the hole he is in becuase some of the kids that are over there and want to come home..are getting to close to finding him..on their own....Sorry about my rant but this stuff is bullcrap.

i support the American people and Soldiers..not those bad people in the government (as my freind in afaganistans 4 year old little brother calls thm) yeah hes knows their idiots

it sad that it had to come to this


This post has been edited by Shocker: Aug 10, 2006 - 11:51 AM

[BlackCelicaGT94]

Yeah how come we cant seem to find Bin Laden after all this time but yet we can find fugitives who flee to other countries. I call BS on the fact we cant find some cave dweller.

America may be the best place to live in the world right now but it sure sucks to be the laughing center piece of it too!

I say we all go to Canada :-)

[bloodMoney]

at least they'll give us the ST205 up there lol

[Silver94CelicaOw...]

Yeah I read that headline this morning....its pretty disheartening. My girlfriend is going to be studying abroad in London next semester so the prospects of either her or I getting on a flight to go there is a little bit scary.

I'm not really one to trust commercial aviation in the first place, after 9/11 and witnessing everything first hand the next day it really sticks in your mind.....but its a screwed up world for sure.

I hate to say it too, but I really don't trust our government much either, theres some pretty interesting (to say the least...) things out there if you do a little research and look into the incongruencies that exist in just about everything our government has done since things have really taken a change. I'm not going to make any profound political statements on here because someone will take it out of context and get upset, but lets just say theres alot that isn't talked about that should be addressed.

[playr158]

and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane

[fastgt]

and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane

yea thats right, but if the u.s.....bush....used his monkey brain instead of having a trigger finger, terrorist attacks can be reduced

gee dumba$$ why did you cut homeland security funding knowing well we were about to get raped without lube

[playr158]

and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane

yea thats right, but if the u.s.....bush....used his monkey brain instead of having a trigger finger, terrorist attacks can be reduced

gee dumba$$ why did you cut homeland security funding knowing well we were about to get raped without lube

stop being ignorant....you realize Bush can't do anything with out CONGRESSIONAL approval
we have a 3 branch system...the PEOPLE elect all THREE....stop being an ignorant asshole and trying to point a finger....go learn how your government works then come back and talk...we are one of the LEAST terrorised countries in the WORLD...congradulations we've had 1 attack...have you looked around us..people live in fear each day hearing rockets over their houses while you sleep in sunny california in your warm ass bed...how freaking ignorant are you...if you do look around there is lots of "prevention" and upgraded security...although not the best yet...and yes the UK did detect and stop those guys that is bloody awesome and who isn't happy about that...lives have been saved...but stop your ignorant dumbass finger pointing at one person...if you wanna sit at your computer in your warm and comfy house and bitch about ****...then go freaking do something about it..oh wait californians did..they elected the terminator to eliminate all try voting for someone you think will do a better job, get people to support your cause....CHANGE sumthing instead of sitting on your ass and bitching about it

(note i'm not a bush hugger i'm simply stating the facts)
(and fast i'm really not directing this towards you, but towards the larger population)

This post has been edited by playr158: Aug 10, 2006 - 12:30 PM

[fastgt]

and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane

yea thats right, but if the u.s.....bush....used his monkey brain instead of having a trigger finger, terrorist attacks can be reduced

gee dumba$$ why did you cut homeland security funding knowing well we were about to get raped without lube

stop being ignorant....you realize Bush can't do anything with out CONGRESSIONAL approval
we have a 3 branch system...the PEOPLE elect all THREE....stop being an ignorant asshole and trying to point a finger....go learn how your government works then come back and talk...we are one of the LEAST terrorised countries in the WORLD...congradulations we've had 1 attack...have you looked around us..people live in fear each day hearing rockets over their houses while you sleep in sunny california in your warm ass bed...how freaking ignorant are you...if you do look around there is lots of "prevention" and upgraded security...although not the best yet...and yes the UK did detect and stop those guys that is bloody awesome and who isn't happy about that...lives have been saved...but stop your ignorant dumbass finger pointing at one person...if you wanna sit at your computer in your warm and comfy house and bitch about ****...then go freaking do something about it..oh wait californians did..they elected the terminator to eliminate all try voting for someone you think will do a better job, get people to support your cause....CHANGE sumthing instead of sitting on your ass and bitching about it

(note i'm not a bush hugger i'm simply stating the facts)
(and fast i'm really not directing this towards you, but towards the larger population)

First off screw you....you are nobody to call me ignorant and i know this post will probably get deleted, either way kiss my a$$

-bush knew an attack was coming and did nothing
-CIA trained bin laden
-Im not bitching, just stating facts.
-1 attack is too many
- 9/11 wasnt the first time the two towers were attacked- take a history class moron
- this isnt the first attack on U.S. soil
-we dont belong in Iraq, i support the troops not the war
-why dont YOU do something....pick up a m-16 and a few grenades and walk you a$$ to iraq...no? didnt think so
- What did our great gov't do to save out POW in Iraq?

- oh and im not finger pointing just one person, our current administration is filled with morons. They cant even get theirs stories straight.

-AND ALL I WAS FRICKEN SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME ON INTELLIGENCE RATHER THAN SENDING OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY OFF TO WAR.

learn to read and better interpret my post you ignorant bastard.

sorry everyone im just sick of this guy

AND if youre not referring to me...please dont call me ignorant

This post has been edited by fastgt: Aug 10, 2006 - 1:06 PM

[playr158]

bush knew an attack was coming and did nothing
-->ok realise bush doesn't control everything there are different departments, heads of committes and boards that decided wat threats or watever...i do agree that those people/departments miss handled the information

-CIA trained bin laden
--> and? we also gave weapons to russia?!

-we dont belong in Iraq, i support the troops not the war
-why dont YOU do something....pick up a m-16 and a few grenades and walk you a$$ to iraq...no? didnt think so
--->wow you can contradict yourself a+
i vote plus i can't be accepted into the military otherwise i'd be airforce

- oh and im not finger pointing just one person,
-->so far all i've seen is you bitching about bush...hop on that band wagon

[playr158]

edit

This post has been edited by playr158: Aug 10, 2006 - 1:18 PM

[fastgt]

- oh and im not finger pointing just one person, our current administration is filled with morons. They cant even get theirs stories straight.<-------uhhh.k


nevermind

[BlackCelicaGT94]

I dont wanna get in this but i would like to state alot of us did vote for the better man and it didnt work! Now those jerks who did vote for Bush are kicking themselves in the butt - i wonder what bushs approval rating is at for today. -100 haha

This post has been edited by BlackCelicaGT94: Aug 10, 2006 - 1:45 PM

[jwells]

Ok, first off, the UK government relied on US intelligence and cooperation in thwarting this terrorist plot.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4778575.stm

Next, the US is stopping terrorists all the time, but I am certain that we aren't told about everything that happens, because the information gathered there may be useful later on. We don't have a right to every little piece of information out there. It is not useful to us and we do not need to know.

As far as Iraq, WMD's, etc. Read through some of the Project Harmony documents that have been translated from captured Iraqi documents. There is info there about weapons smuggled out, chemical weapons programs, and so on.

Bush is not in charge of everything. As mentioned before, President Bush is one part of the THREE branches. Bush can do NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING on his own. Congress approves everything. Have a problem? Write your Senator. Bitching online about the President helps nothing.

I love how everything is Bush's fault and how if Kerry had been elected things would have been OOHHH so much better. I don't know about you all, but paying higher taxes and paying welfare to lazy americans and supporting illegial aliens is not something I care to do.

I support the war in Iraq with my tax dollars. I am a student, and not in the service, but I plan to be after college. By the way, we are PAYING soldiers who signed up on their own will to do as our Congress sees fit. If they have a problem with being in Iraq, they should not have signed up and gotten the benefits in the first place. They are trained to be a military, not a bunch of people running around training without any use.

I could go on, but I've got **** to do.

[JonCars17]

Yeah I heard about this. Its kinda weird like people at my work didnt hear about it. How can you live your life not knowing whats going on in the world?!

I honestly wouldn't know what goes on with the attacks if my mom didn't wake up earlier than normal and cut on the tv. I don't watch tv.

I'm also not gonna get into this and show that I'm an idiot, History is my worse subject.

[Mynzeyes]

- oh and im not finger pointing just one person,
-->so far all i've seen is you bitching about bush...hop on that band wagon

hop on your mom's band wagon.

bushie is a 'tard. he's the president. he's responsible. sure, people can override his ideas, but he can veto anything. he's a radical conservative, which is such a minority group, but they are all in power bc of him and his ties. that's why the minority conservative republican ideal is so in the mainstream. no one is gonna do anything about it. it's just fun to point out how a jackass is running the united states. you have your opinion, we have ours. no matter what anyone says, i'll always think what i do, and that bush is a 'tard-bag that has no idea what he's doing.

as far as the war in iraq, the end doesn't justify the means. we aren't wanted over there. we've created chaos. sure, it'll calm down, maybe, later, but there is no plan of people coming out. they say they'll come out at some point, then change it.

i'm also kind of on the fence about "supporting the troops, but not the war". they signed up to go over there. they signed up to fight the war. i'm not making attacks at anyone in the military, if you are, good for you, go fight everyone else's war. go be the world police. that's all the US military is good for anyways. if you think they are over in iraq, fighting for our freedom, you're ignorant. until our homeland is under attack, and we are at war on our own soil, with immediate threat to our government, our freedom is going nowhere. they are fighting for "iraq's freedom". not ours'. republicans just use that as a way to attempt to make people that oppose the war feel bad about themselves. and it works, if you are uneducated. if it came down to my freedom being under attack, i'd fight, just so we're clear. sept 11, 2001 was not an attack on our freedom. it was an attack on our way of life, and ideals. they weren't trying to take control of us.

[bloodrain]

alot of what everybody has to realize is Bush is not perfect, but he is doing what he thinks is best for our nations. While I do not support Bush, I am also not against him. I also do not think our own gov't create 9/11, you can twist movies and facts however you want them to put the spin on it so it goes for whatever your arguing against or for. Anyone who has ever taken debate knows this. American doesnt need to stop playing world police because the fact is, we need it.

p.s. i'll finish my statement later, somethin came up, bah ****

This post has been edited by bloodrain: Aug 10, 2006 - 9:34 PM

[Yellow94GT]

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe...ror/index.html


oh boy...apparently some of the planes were coming here

My spouse is scheduled to make a flight to the UK next week.

Yellow94GT

[playr158]

well safe travels for your wife mate...

my girl friend is in switzerland transfering in london on saturday
and my good friend is going to UK and germany in a week or two

[celi_gt_racer]

my .02 - loose change was awesome and had very good points, but every1 i talk to about it has 2 argue w/ me... so i've stopped talking about it. even my college chem. professor says that both the twin towers went down because of plane impacts , and i thought she knew the melting point of steel

[Shocker]

bluntly....boom to the world...it willl happen..soon or later.unfortunatly for any body in the time period that it does happen will suffer greatly....and will then want to take it all back and be peacful but as much as you want to argue nobody is looking far enuogh ahead into the future of our precious world...point taken..let all get along...drive eco freindly vehichle recylce..yada yada yada..

Dont be worried about aliens...if they are mean they will let us blow ourselves up..so have no fear of them..and if there nice why in the hell would they want to visit us and come on a planet where it may insure certain death.. point taken they dont want any thing to do with us.cept watch us in really cool flying thingys.....sorry watching some sci fi stuff on the history channel and starting thinking about green people

[Benevolence]

I dont like bush but this story has nothing to do with his incompetence.

[fastgt]

shocker......what the hell are you talking about....yes its 630 in the morning...its probably why your post made no sense to me

[presure2]

and yet commercial plane travel is STILL the #1 safest way to travel woot!

you have more chances of getting shot in a car jacking the being on a terrorist plane

yea thats right, but if the u.s.....bush....used his monkey brain instead of having a trigger finger, terrorist attacks can be reduced

gee dumba$$ why did you cut homeland security funding knowing well we were about to get raped without lube

stop being ignorant....you realize Bush can't do anything with out CONGRESSIONAL approval
we have a 3 branch system...the PEOPLE elect all THREE....stop being an ignorant asshole and trying to point a finger....go learn how your government works then come back and talk...we are one of the LEAST terrorised countries in the WORLD...congradulations we've had 1 attack...have you looked around us..people live in fear each day hearing rockets over their houses while you sleep in sunny california in your warm ass bed...how freaking ignorant are you...if you do look around there is lots of "prevention" and upgraded security...although not the best yet...and yes the UK did detect and stop those guys that is bloody awesome and who isn't happy about that...lives have been saved...but stop your ignorant dumbass finger pointing at one person...if you wanna sit at your computer in your warm and comfy house and bitch about ****...then go freaking do something about it..oh wait californians did..they elected the terminator to eliminate all try voting for someone you think will do a better job, get people to support your cause....CHANGE sumthing instead of sitting on your ass and bitching about it

(note i'm not a bush hugger i'm simply stating the facts)
(and fast i'm really not directing this towards you, but towards the larger population)

First off screw you....you are nobody to call me ignorant and i know this post will probably get deleted, either way kiss my a$$

-bush knew an attack was coming and did nothing
-CIA trained bin laden
-Im not bitching, just stating facts.
-1 attack is too many
- 9/11 wasnt the first time the two towers were attacked- take a history class moron
- this isnt the first attack on U.S. soil
-we dont belong in Iraq, i support the troops not the war
-why dont YOU do something....pick up a m-16 and a few grenades and walk you a$$ to iraq...no? didnt think so
- What did our great gov't do to save out POW in Iraq?

- oh and im not finger pointing just one person, our current administration is filled with morons. They cant even get theirs stories straight.

-AND ALL I WAS FRICKEN SAYING IS THAT WE SHOULD SPEND MORE TIME ON INTELLIGENCE RATHER THAN SENDING OUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY OFF TO WAR.

learn to read and better interpret my post you ignorant bastard.

sorry everyone im just sick of this guy

AND if youre not referring to me...please dont call me ignorant

yea...this has gone far enough
closed.