sil-eighty Options

[DeathWing]

i found this car, since my celi engine is damaged as it seems and the sil-eighty is really cheap im considerating the idea on buying one, and upgrading it with the rest of the money, ive searched but im not with much info, so any opinions would be good

[block]

aren't sileighty the hatch version with the long headlights? if so they are so damn ugly.......fix the celica!

[DeathWing]

this is how i pretend it to look like, but im mainly concerned about preformance, since the car is really cheap

This post has been edited by DeathWing: Aug 25, 2006 - 11:41 AM

[Valo666]

CA18DET = awsome motor. Its actually an RB block, minus 2 cylinders. My buddy has a 180sx and its rediculusly nice. I say yes, but shouldnt this be in the off topic section?

Personaly though..go silvia or 180..sileights are kinda strange lookin

[trdproven]

Just for information. The history of the sil-eighties are this. When racers use to drift or race their 180SX, they would damage the front end, and they found it cheaper to run the S-13 front end (Sivia front) instead because the flip light front was expensive to replace. So people started creating a new style called the Sil-Eighty. Silvia/180 put together. In time, Nissan found it popular among racers and finally manufactured their own Sil-eighty for sale. Overall, these are good cars to have for style and drift. I always wanted one. Theres maybe only 4-5 sileighties where I'm at.

[DeathWing]

ya ive read , the engine is actually a CA18DET confirmed it has like 68k miles on it, i think they removed the turbo, if so im installing another again, i havent directly seen the car yet, but it will be on the weekend well ty for the feedback guys im waiting for more ^^

This post has been edited by DeathWing: Aug 23, 2006 - 10:30 PM

[team_omega]

Just for information. The history of the sil-eighties are this. When racers use to drift or race their 180SX, they would damage the front end, and they found it cheaper to run the S-13 front end (Sivia front) instead because the flip light front was expensive to replace. So people started creating a new style called the Sil-Eighty. Silvia/180 put together. In time, Nissan found it popular among racers and finally manufactured their own Sil-eighty for sale. Overall, these are good cars to have for style and drift. I always wanted one. Theres maybe only 4-5 sileighties where I'm at.

^^^ perfect....i seen many sileightys hea...not the real ones though...180sx converted to sileighty.....they look sexy..wouldn't mind having one...

[94_st_hatchback]

Just for information. The history of the sil-eighties are this. When racers use to drift or race their 180SX, they would damage the front end, and they found it cheaper to run the S-13 front end (Sivia front) instead because the flip light front was expensive to replace. So people started creating a new style called the Sil-Eighty. Silvia/180 put together. In time, Nissan found it popular among racers and finally manufactured their own Sil-eighty for sale. Overall, these are good cars to have for style and drift. I always wanted one. Theres maybe only 4-5 sileighties where I'm at.

yeah, what he said..and IMO, i would rather get a sil-80 then fixing the celica..you could use it as a daily driver then a weekend drift monster..

[95celgt]

sil-eighty is AWESOME, i want:P

go for it, just keep an eye on the old electrical system, alot of my friends usdm 240's have funky wiring issues and shorts.

[BLADDER_MASTER]

In time, Nissan found it popular among racers and finally manufactured their own Sil-eighty for sale.

Not true. And the only thing that sucks about the CA18DET is the lack of aftermarket support compared to the SR20DET.

[celicurr]

here are a couple sil-eighties for ya

http://forums.vitalmotion.net/showthread.php?t=30378

the white one belongs to one of my best friends... she also owns a WRX and is tuning it for power

[trdproven]

Actually, bladder master, it is true, this was a mod originally done in the streets because of damaged front ends. The reason for the swap was because it was cheaper and lighter to do for replacement. To get more detailed, the Japanese shop called Kids Heart, made about 500 of them and sold them through Nissan dealerships. In that case, I guess Nissan really didn't make them at all but took the credit for it. and really, its whatever engine came with a 180SX matched with Silvia front which made the car a sileighty. The point of this mod was more exterior than engine really. The type of engine it had did not make it called the sileighty. Who agrees with me?

[DeathWing]

ya those are nice but arent they sil40?

[celicurr]

^^ nope, the 'eighty' is from the 180SX, which was a lighter and more well-balanced car, hence better for drifting... a SILvia front end instead of the pop-up headlights that was stock on the 180.

[BLADDER_MASTER]

Actually, bladder master, it is true, this was a mod originally done in the streets because of damaged front ends. The reason for the swap was because it was cheaper and lighter to do for replacement. To get more detailed, the Japanese shop called Kids Heart, made about 500 of them and sold them through Nissan dealerships. In that case, I guess Nissan really didn't make them at all but took the credit for it. and really, its whatever engine came with a 180SX matched with Silvia front which made the car a sileighty. The point of this mod was more exterior than engine really. The type of engine it had did not make it called the sileighty. Who agrees with me?

Your statement about Nissan manufacturing Sil80's is not true. Everything else is true.

[trdproven]

Actually, like what I said was Kids Heart was the company that manufactured it for Nissan and Nissan took the credit for it.

[DeathWing]

im catually confused between these


and these

both show as 180sx

its different tail light stile or different car?

This post has been edited by DeathWing: Aug 24, 2006 - 6:54 PM

[trdproven]

I did not see the first pic, but the circular design ones are JDM. Actually both appeared in the Japan market but its kinda like our celicas. Theres an older JDM version and a newer one.

[Kwanza26]

Nissan did produce a limited edition of the SilEighty which had an SR20DET and was sold in the late 90's I think.

The older chopped up SilEighties were as mentioned here... 180sx's with Silvia fronts and the stock 180's ran the ca18...

[Consynx]

if i remember right, the tail lights in the first pic were for the sileightys that kwanza just mentioned...or "type x" iunno the whole nissan deal, there too much weirdness

but yea, US 240 hatchbacks come with the tails of the 2nd pic, (except they say 240sx), and you can get 180's or the "kouki"(easier to call it this for me...guessing it's what it is in essence(first pic)) online.

[DeathWing]

actual pics...this is gonna need some exterior work yay






im also concerned about the turbo, the guy told me that "it looks like" the turbo was taken away (the guy is noob at cars and stuff), so im seeing if a skyline turbo can fit it well

This post has been edited by DeathWing: Aug 25, 2006 - 11:45 AM

[Valo666]

ya ive read , the engine is actually a CA18DET confirmed it has like 68k miles on it, i think they removed the turbo, if so im installing another again, i havent directly seen the car yet, but it will be on the weekend well ty for the feedback guys im waiting for more ^^

If you need to replace the turbo or the turbo manifold, any SR20DET manifold will work, aswell as any stock sr turbo. You can pickup decent SR manifolds and DP's on ebay for like $300. If you decide to go that way, go out and get them ceramic coated right away.

im catually confused between these


and these

both show as 180sx

its different tail light stile or different car?

thouse tail lights are the kouki tail lights, offered on 94+ models of the s13 platform. If you decide to go with thouse tail lights, you have to use a new wiring harness witch you have to cut and splice into the original one, the center peice has to be replaced along with the lock. So you will have 1 key for the igntion and doors and a seperate one for the hatch. easy install to do, i did a set on my buddys 180sx a few weeks ago.

actual pics...this is gonna need some exterior work yay






im also concerned about the turbo, the guy told me that "it looks like" the turbo was taken away (the guy is noob at cars and stuff), so im seeing if a skyline turbo can fit it well

a turbo off a RB26, can bolt up to an OEM manifold, but wont produce too much boost. My buddy tryed it on his KA24DET project. better option is either stock SR20 turbo or a T3. CA18s arent ment to produce big boost as is. They will handel it, but they struggel to make it. If you are just gonna run OEM internals, you probably wouldnt be able to spool any thing bigger than a t3.

[BEEFSTEW800]

its different tail light stile or different car?

The 180sx (s13 hatcback) has 2 different sets of tail lights. The ones that looks the the UDM (the second pic) were made from 1989-1995. Starting in 1996, they switched to the tails in the first pic. As far as which motor came in the 180sx, in 1989-90 there was the CA18DET making ~175HP and then in 91 the put the SR20DET redtop making ~205HP. The 96 and newer 180SX came with the SR20DET blacktop which still made the same HP.

[Shigexile]

sil80 are so nice. I have like 2 or 3 sil80 built in my car game.

i say go with the sil80. I'll probably have more fun with that car and it also has good aftermarket support too.