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post Aug 28, 2006 - 9:59 AM
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I'm in the market for some new shocks. I'm looking @ KYB Gas shocks. I only know 2 kinds of shocks, KYB's & Tokico's. Are there any other good brands out there?


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post Aug 28, 2006 - 10:30 AM
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bilsteins. And koni's are awesome for performance. Im researching right now, but im not sure if they make tokico blues for 6th gens.


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post Aug 28, 2006 - 10:32 AM
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monroes but those are crap imo


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post Aug 28, 2006 - 1:59 PM
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Sweet thx! Do any of them range higher, price-wise?


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post Aug 28, 2006 - 2:15 PM
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lol, when it comes to shocks..... you get what you pay for!


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post Aug 28, 2006 - 2:34 PM
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i can do a price list:
Kyb: front shocks $50-65 each, rear struts $60-65, front struts $60-65
Monroe: front struts $50-60, rear struts $50-60
Koni: all four $650
Bilstein: front strut $73, rear struts and front shocks, $320
Tein Coilovers: $1000+


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post Aug 28, 2006 - 2:45 PM
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if your creative.. shortened strut mounts with MR2 rear struts.. 100each for Kyb AGX. 8pt adjustment
post Aug 28, 2006 - 3:31 PM
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didnt coomer try something like this and something happened?


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post Aug 28, 2006 - 11:46 PM
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ya i remember a thread while back and something happened to where it didnt actually work.


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post Aug 29, 2006 - 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(jdg371 @ Aug 28, 2006 - 7:45 PM) [snapback]473800[/snapback]

if your creative.. shortened strut mounts with MR2 rear struts.. 100each for Kyb AGX. 8pt adjustment

Didn't work. It's a common mod for the AE86 guys and we talked a bit about it possibly working on the 6gc... but Coomer tried and it turns out the MR2 inserts are too long... =[


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post Aug 30, 2006 - 2:01 PM
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Aug 29, 2006 - 11:44 AM) [snapback]474099[/snapback]

QUOTE(jdg371 @ Aug 28, 2006 - 7:45 PM) [snapback]473800[/snapback]

if your creative.. shortened strut mounts with MR2 rear struts.. 100each for Kyb AGX. 8pt adjustment

Didn't work. It's a common mod for the AE86 guys and we talked a bit about it possibly working on the 6gc... but Coomer tried and it turns out the MR2 inserts are too long... =[



Hmm Im still going to attempt something similar. Did Coom use MR2 rear strus? also didnt Punch do it and was succesful?
post Aug 30, 2006 - 3:01 PM
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http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showto...hortened+struts


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post Aug 30, 2006 - 3:52 PM
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QUOTE(hitcachi @ Aug 30, 2006 - 4:01 PM) [snapback]474528[/snapback]


well theres goes my plan.. and my welder is in Texas mad.gif
post Aug 30, 2006 - 5:34 PM
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doesn't Tanabe make coilovers for the 6g too... but i think they are non-adjustable.... not sure... anyone???

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post Aug 30, 2006 - 6:59 PM
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So I've got a quote: for roughly $600, I can get a set of all 4 KYB gas shocks/struts + install. The shop that's doing it is very reputable...if anyone's from MD they'll know...AEX Cinema. Good price? Thanks ahead of time.

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2007 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
1974 Datsun 260Z
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post Aug 31, 2006 - 10:52 AM
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QUOTE(m0dd3d1 @ Aug 30, 2006 - 6:59 PM) [snapback]474629[/snapback]

So I've got a quote: for roughly $600, I can get a set of all 4 KYB gas shocks/struts + install. The shop that's doing it is very reputable...if anyone's from MD they'll know...AEX Cinema. Good price? Thanks ahead of time.

-Tricscuit

^ confused.gif How much are they charging for install? Kyb's arent that expensive so the labor charge has to be through the roof. Dude..... if you take that money, and add 50 dollars then you have koni's. (the best) then you could install them yourself follow john's kick butt how to article. its easy. trust me.


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post Aug 31, 2006 - 2:35 PM
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gr2s are like 60bux a piece.. grab a case of beer.. a couple friends and get it done in a day
post Aug 31, 2006 - 2:50 PM
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kybs are as low as 50 now, 200 and some shipping, 300+ for labor is horrid


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post Sep 2, 2006 - 10:35 AM
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$281.60 for the kby's, & $320.00 for the install, which is nuts. Now (i don't really know much about suspension mind you) the way it was explained to me, was the shocks/struts are kyb which will replace the whole rear susp, and the shocks will replace the front ones and i'll keep my eibach springs on the front? What's the difference between shocks, struts, sways, springs (are self explanitory). Does anyone have like, a picture of an entire setup so I can tell what's what? I'm not really trying to jack my own thread, but it is along the same lines because i'm looking at susp for the celli! Thanks guys.

-Triscuit


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1998 Toyota Celica GT
2007 Subaru Impreza WRX STi
2007 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
1974 Datsun 260Z
1997 Subaru Legacy L Wagon

Kind of missin' my Celica GT! Hit me up if you're ever in my area. I'm always down for a meet.
post Sep 2, 2006 - 1:06 PM
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QUOTE(m0dd3d1 @ Sep 2, 2006 - 8:35 AM) [snapback]475425[/snapback]

$281.60 for the kby's, & $320.00 for the install, which is nuts. Now (i don't really know much about suspension mind you) the way it was explained to me, was the shocks/struts are kyb which will replace the whole rear susp, and the shocks will replace the front ones and i'll keep my eibach springs on the front? What's the difference between shocks, struts, sways, springs (are self explanitory). Does anyone have like, a picture of an entire setup so I can tell what's what? I'm not really trying to jack my own thread, but it is along the same lines because i'm looking at susp for the celli! Thanks guys.

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320 labor is crazy. your local dealer should be cheaper than that. find another local member willing to help install and throw them some cash for help or doing it. if your willing to drive to PA i would even change them for ya for less than half of that shops price. im sure theres a member relatively close to you willing to help for a small fee
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QUOTE(m0dd3d1 @ Sep 2, 2006 - 10:35 AM) [snapback]475425[/snapback]

$281.60 for the kby's, & $320.00 for the install, which is nuts. Now (i don't really know much about suspension mind you) the way it was explained to me, was the shocks/struts are kyb which will replace the whole rear susp, and the shocks will replace the front ones and i'll keep my eibach springs on the front? What's the difference between shocks, struts, sways, springs (are self explanitory). Does anyone have like, a picture of an entire setup so I can tell what's what? I'm not really trying to jack my own thread, but it is along the same lines because i'm looking at susp for the celli! Thanks guys.

-Triscuit

Struts- They house the shocks and springs
Shock- They are inserted inside the strut housing. Play a major role in ride quality
Springs- They go over the shock and sit on the lower strut plate and top strut plate.
Sways- a front and rear bar that is connected to the strut by endlinks. They are designed to stop body roll when cornering.
Strut Bars- Bars that connect to the top strut monut bolts on each side of the car. They allow for less body twisting during driving.


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post Sep 2, 2006 - 8:37 PM
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The shocks, or shock dampeners, control the movement of the car and the springs -- they smooth the ride and keep the tires on the ground. Springs are what your car actually rides on -- sort of floats on top of the springs. The shocks keep the springs from responding too violently to the road, which is why you need to match the responsiveness of the shocks to the strength of the springs.
post Sep 2, 2006 - 10:14 PM
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QUOTE(zipstrips @ Sep 2, 2006 - 1:06 PM) [snapback]475474[/snapback]

QUOTE(m0dd3d1 @ Sep 2, 2006 - 8:35 AM) [snapback]475425[/snapback]

$281.60 for the kby's, & $320.00 for the install, which is nuts. Now (i don't really know much about suspension mind you) the way it was explained to me, was the shocks/struts are kyb which will replace the whole rear susp, and the shocks will replace the front ones and i'll keep my eibach springs on the front? What's the difference between shocks, struts, sways, springs (are self explanitory). Does anyone have like, a picture of an entire setup so I can tell what's what? I'm not really trying to jack my own thread, but it is along the same lines because i'm looking at susp for the celli! Thanks guys.

-Triscuit



320 labor is crazy. your local dealer should be cheaper than that. find another local member willing to help install and throw them some cash for help or doing it. if your willing to drive to PA i would even change them for ya for less than half of that shops price. im sure theres a member relatively close to you willing to help for a small fee



KYB shocks and struts suck. As soon as I finish engine rebuild, they will be gone. The didn't last for more than three months. (Could probably be cause I got them off of ebay) I am going to try out the supper street tein coilover.

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