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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:27 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
so i finally decided to check what the MPG on my swap was. anyone want to take a guess? this was all "city" driving at 14psi or more with lots and lots of boosting and back road fun.
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:30 PM
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12mpg
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:36 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
9.5!
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:38 PM
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:39 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 23, '04 From Ohio Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
prolly about 20
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:45 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 3, '05 From Chicago Suburbs Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
14.5 mpg
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:47 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
so far no one guessed the exact number, but somone did come very close. keep trying!
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:48 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
8mpg, running way too rich
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:48 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 31, '05 From Southern California Currently Offline Reputation: 7 (100%) |
14?
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:49 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 9, '04 From Las Vegas USA Currently Offline Reputation: 14 (100%) |
1 dollar.... wait that's the wrong game.
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Sep 13, 2006 - 10:59 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 26, '04 From Sacramento, California Currently Offline Reputation: 4 (100%) |
13 MPG
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Sep 13, 2006 - 11:00 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 5, '05 From mattoon, IL Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
10
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Sep 13, 2006 - 11:01 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jul 19, '04 From Los Angeles, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 2 (100%) |
24mpg
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Sep 13, 2006 - 11:16 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
alright.... no one hit the exact number, but dustinkemp got the closest. the car got 19mpg of very hard driving.
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Sep 13, 2006 - 11:58 PM
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Enthusiast Joined Sep 2, '06 From Washington Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Dang... not to shabby..... 19 on hard driving.. now lets see.. if you take it easy... that could be over 20... haha
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Sep 14, 2006 - 12:05 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 8, '05 From torrance/carson, ca Currently Offline Reputation: 11 (100%) |
darn, i was only off by about 10 mpg. 19's pretty good for agressive city driving with a turbocharged car. your car just became a lil more awesomer.
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Sep 14, 2006 - 12:28 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jan 17, '04 From Illinois Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 13, 2006 - 11:16 PM) [snapback]479533[/snapback] alright.... no one hit the exact number, but dustinkemp got the closest. the car got 19mpg of very hard driving. I got 19.9 on mixed driving -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
Sep 14, 2006 - 12:37 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i just looked up the specs for the new evo9. they get 19 city and 25 highway. so im guessing i could do the same for highway milage.
i also think my mpg was worse before i recirculated the bov, but maybe its in my head. i kind of wish i checked it so that i had a before and after to comapre to. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 14, 2006 - 1:36 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 3, '04 From Hollywood, MD Currently Offline Reputation: 6 (100%) |
i got like 22 on really hard city driving at 10-12psi
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Sep 14, 2006 - 1:51 AM
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QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 14, 2006 - 12:37 AM) [snapback]479560[/snapback] i just looked up the specs for the new evo9. they get 19 city and 25 highway. so im guessing i could do the same for highway milage. i also think my mpg was worse before i recirculated the bov, but maybe its in my head. i kind of wish i checked it so that i had a before and after to comapre to. Then unrecirculate it!! haha! Actually, im sure that you actually do get a noticeable MPG increase with it recirculated. -------------------- Teh Celica sleeps for Winter '06. Suspension overhaul begins........
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Sep 14, 2006 - 3:34 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Lowest I got, City Driving + boosting, is 21,25 mpg. Highest is close to 33 mpg.
Compared to the 3S-GE not bad considering that POS did 20 City 24 Highway ( J/K on the POS part This post has been edited by Kadett: Sep 14, 2006 - 3:34 AM -------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Sep 14, 2006 - 10:23 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(Kadett @ Sep 14, 2006 - 4:34 AM) [snapback]479598[/snapback] Lowest I got, City Driving + boosting, is 21,25 mpg. Highest is close to 33 mpg. Compared to the 3S-GE not bad considering that POS did 20 City 24 Highway ( J/K on the POS part thats not bad for a motor that comes stock with 550cc injectors. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 14, 2006 - 11:25 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Nov 29, '04 Currently Offline Reputation: 5 (100%) |
Not really surprising at all. Decently modded MR2's acheive the same numbers, no reason why a celica with the same engine couldn't. And circulating your bov WILL improve gas mileage for sure.
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Sep 14, 2006 - 11:26 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 17, '05 From The Netherlands Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
Uhuh... after I drove the car back from the swap I already needed to fill it up. Then run the tank dry in 1,5 days
Highway numbers are extremly fun. But I think # 1 reason for it is the shorter F/D in the gearbox. -------------------- JDM Powerplant installed, BPU coming very soon!
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Sep 14, 2006 - 11:33 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Jun 29, '03 Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
WTH... 19MPG, with hard driving?! That's crazy... I get 15 mpg... and that's normal driving.
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Sep 14, 2006 - 3:22 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 17, '04 From St Louis, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i used to get 18 with the 5sfte when daily driving it (with alot of boost)
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Sep 14, 2006 - 5:36 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 16, '05 From Toronto, Ontario Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i only get 21mpg in pure (non-hard) city driving w/ a stock 5sfe =(
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Sep 14, 2006 - 9:59 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 9, '05 From Long Beach Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(elvasoshexai @ Sep 14, 2006 - 3:36 PM) [snapback]479804[/snapback] i only get 21mpg in pure (non-hard) city driving w/ a stock 5sfe =( me too! lol! i thought 5s's are economical! wut happened! lol i dont go past 3500 rpm anymore. and i still get around 20 mpg city This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Sep 14, 2006 - 9:59 PM -------------------- Is this good enuff 4 ya? :D
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Sep 15, 2006 - 12:07 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
if you only get 20mpg on a stock 5sfe, then there is something wrong. might need a new o2 sensor, a tune up, or your tire presure is low.
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Sep 15, 2006 - 10:06 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() Joined Sep 19, '05 Currently Offline Reputation: 3 (100%) |
It certainly is possible to get very high 20's with a 5s.
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Sep 15, 2006 - 11:02 AM
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Enthusiast ![]() Joined Oct 17, '04 From St Louis, MO Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
I've seen 32mpg highway with my 5sfe...
when i obught it i was getting 190miles to the tank... soon after i did a tune up and started getting average 5sfe milage a k&n filter in the airbox will give you 1-2mpg (on the benz i went from average 8.2litres/100km to 7.8litres/100km after the K&N ) so that's going from 30.48mpg to 32.05mpg ... talking mostly highway here...but there you see ... k&n drop in cone filter is 1.5mpg+ -nuke -------------------- 2005 MB C200 Kompressor- K&N, Apexi WS2 Catback, DIY Voltage stabilizer, Intrax Springs, H&R RR swaybar, VDO Boost Gauge @ 6psi, Greddy L7 plugs, +0 Rear tires
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Sep 15, 2006 - 1:53 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
I get about 22mpg in mixed semi-aggressive driving (full throttle at least once every time I drive) with my 3rd-gen 3s swapped Camry. I was hoping for closer to 25 (I got 28-30 with my turbo'd 3s-fe and over 30 with my old non-turbo Camry). I'm pretty sure most of the difference is the final drive ratio - I'm using the MR2 final drive wich puts my car at almost 3500rpm at 80mph (if I remember correctly, I haven't driven the car in a month or so). I cruise around 75mph on the freeway most of the time.
The Celica is heavier, but has better aerodynamics, so you guys should expect similar results... -Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
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Sep 15, 2006 - 2:19 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE The Celica is heavier, but has better aerodynamics, so you guys should expect similar results... you think so? i would think a 4 door camry would weigh more then a 6th gen. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 15, 2006 - 7:42 PM
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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined May 16, '05 From Toronto, Ontario Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
i think my gas mileage sux cuz basically 90% of my driving is rush hour city driving... and when i do go on the highway... i cruise @ 4krpm...
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Sep 15, 2006 - 9:46 PM
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RPM is the 900-lb gorilla of fuel economy (quote stolen from an old Car and Driver, I think).
That's why to get 37 mpg out of my 7a I shift at 2k almost all the time, with gradual and smooth throttle inputs, and I read traffic to minimize stopping and roll lights. I actually thought about putting up a video of my driving style just to be informative, but it probably wouldn't come across well. -------------------- |
Sep 15, 2006 - 10:26 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
so it seems that my MPG is probably better then i though. i just checked the tire presure in my car for the first time in a while. all 3 tires were at 28psi and one of them was down to about 12psi ! needless to say, this would definetly have an impact on performance and mpg. ill have to recheck it again after my next fill up.
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Sep 15, 2006 - 11:02 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Mar 11, '06 From Way South Chicago Currently Offline Reputation: 0 (0%) |
i feel bad for you guys, my car doing 80mph is turning at about 2700 rpm, 85mph is 3000 rpm.
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Sep 16, 2006 - 8:42 AM
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My biggest beef with the tranny is the gap from 4th-5th is all of 300 rpm.
Also, I'd like a true OD for the highway, turning 2000 or so at 70. Where's my six speed? -------------------- |
Sep 17, 2006 - 2:06 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 15, 2006 - 12:19 PM) [snapback]480137[/snapback] QUOTE The Celica is heavier, but has better aerodynamics, so you guys should expect similar results... you think so? i would think a 4 door camry would weigh more then a 6th gen. Damn. I just checked MSN autos - the GT 5-speed is lighter than my Camry by 130lbs (2560 GT manual vs. 2690 manual base). Hmph. I generally assume that newer cars are heavier than older cars... -Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
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Sep 17, 2006 - 2:15 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
QUOTE(phattyduck @ Sep 17, 2006 - 3:06 PM) [snapback]480731[/snapback] QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 15, 2006 - 12:19 PM) [snapback]480137[/snapback] QUOTE The Celica is heavier, but has better aerodynamics, so you guys should expect similar results... you think so? i would think a 4 door camry would weigh more then a 6th gen. Damn. I just checked MSN autos - the GT 5-speed is lighter than my Camry by 130lbs (2560 GT manual vs. 2690 manual base). Hmph. I generally assume that newer cars are heavier than older cars... -Charlie isint your camry also awd or maybe im not thinking of the same car? -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Sep 17, 2006 - 2:36 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Dec 5, '05 From LA, CA Currently Offline Reputation: 1 (100%) |
QUOTE(lagos @ Sep 17, 2006 - 12:15 PM) [snapback]480733[/snapback] isint your camry also awd or maybe im not thinking of the same car? -Charlie -------------------- 2003 Subaru WRX Wagon
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Sep 17, 2006 - 2:37 PM
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Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) |
ah ok ... i was thinking of the other guy then
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