who wants HID ?, considering a GB. Options

[Culpable04]

I'm in contact with a company that makes the HID kits, so we can get the HID conversion KIT for 140 Shipped with a minimiun of 10 sets, here is the description of the HIDs they sent me

Description
-Approval: ISO9001: 2000; E-mark certificate
-Warranty: 1 year
-Specification:
Normal Input Voltage: 12V
Allowable Input Voltage: 9V-16V
Normal Input Current: 3.5A
Ignition Voltage: 23KV
Operating temperature: -40degree ~ +105degree
Life Time: >2000 hours
Luminous flux: 3, 200 LM
Bulb Watt: 35W

Available lamp types:
H1, H3, H4, H4(hi-lo), H4(H/L),H7, H9, H11, H13, 9004, 9005, 9006, 9007, D2S, D2R(suitable for all kinds of auto, such as BMW, BENZ, AUDI)
Color Temp: 4500K, 5000K, 6000K, 8000K, 10000K, 12000K

some of the question you guys came up with were :


(ra65_22re) if we can choose what color we get then count me in for a set

yes we can choose the color of our choice and I'll be the same price.

and yes It's confirmed the price will be 140 SHIPPED please specify the temp color of your choise.

please add your name to the list below.

1. culpable04 ( 6K )
2. ra65_22re
3. Cha
4. 94celicadude

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Sep 15, 2006 - 8:15 PM

[chacha]

1. culpable04 ( 6K )
2. ra65_22re
3. Cha (low on budget)...im broke...if i get the funds in time, i will put myself back on...sorry you guys.
4. 94celicadude

[ra65_22re]

1. culpable04 ( 6K )
2. ra65_22re
3. Cha (low on budget)...im broke...if i get the funds in time, i will put myself back on...sorry you guys.
4. 94celicadude

im out as well. got to host a party for my roommate. hes leavin for iraq so its kind of important. plus the beer wont buy itself. sorry

[j0e_p3t]

hmm... i'll think about it. will the price go even lower if we get more than 10 people?

[Enrique]

1. culpable04 ( 6K )
2. Cha (low on budget)...im broke...if i get the funds in time, i will put myself back on...sorry you guys.
3. 94celicadude
4.Enrique (8k)

[coldbluesteel]

Is this for all four lights? If so I'm in if the quality is good.

[Culpable04]

^ is 140 for each set, if you want both ( highs and lows ) you can get them as well.

as far as is the price will go even lower if we get more than ten, yes ! they told me if I get more than 10 the price will go down but I don't know how much.



1. culpable04 ( 6K )
2. 94celicadude (8K )

[coldbluesteel]

I've heard it's not good to use hid in the projector lows, is that true?

[Culpable04]

someone else will help on that since I don't own projectors, but I know some members here have projectors with HIDs.

[Bitter]

if you get more than 10 and the price drops lower i would consider it. the highest i can go is $120 shipped for the set to do 2 lights.

[coldbluesteel]

I'll look into the projector hid thing. What kind of time table are we looking at to get these things? I would probably do 2 sets hi's and low's

[Culpable04]

they told me yesterday that takes ~ 10 days to get to your door.

and now that you bring this up I want people to put their bulb size preference and color choice next to their names.

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )

[coldbluesteel]

10 days shipping... ok. What about how long we are going to keep this GB open? Until we get 10 or a certain date?

[Culpable04]

I'll give it like till friday to see how many people we get.
and we'll take from there.

[LewFX]

theres a few members who have hid with their pros.

[vincent_doggy]

I've heard it's not good to use hid in the projector lows, is that true?

Don't be silly, dude, work fine with HID and you'll love it.

[chacha]

sorry to steal this thread for a bit, but for those who has the low projectors...does the jap low projector come with high tech leveling devices in the projectors...like those of the BMW, AUDI, etc....

[Zimluura]

didn't see it mentioned yet, but (from what i understand) it's the hi beams that you want to avoid hids with. because hids don't like it when you flash them.

[massbrandon]

they told me yesterday that takes ~ 10 days to get to your door.

and now that you bring this up I want people to put their bulb size preference and color choice next to their names.

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )
3. MassBrandon (H1)

[95GT]

I'd be interested in at least one set (9006, 6K).

[Supersprynt]

sorry to steal this thread for a bit, but for those who has the low projectors...does the jap low projector come with high tech leveling devices in the projectors...like those of the BMW, AUDI, etc....

no

[snapshotgt]

edit, nvm.

This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Sep 16, 2006 - 3:42 PM

[115celi]

I am definitly interested in getting 2 sets, how ever I just started school last week and will be short on cash until the end of the month.

[6gsillyca]

what is company name and what kind of ballasts?

I'm in
6gsillyca (H1) (6000K)

shipping to canada?

This post has been edited by 6gsillyca: Sep 16, 2006 - 11:19 AM

[eliaz]

How about international shipping? (Norway)

[Culpable04]

let's keep track of who's in !

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )
3. MassBrandon (H1)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K)

How about international shipping? (Norway)

can be arranged but I'll email the company to have all the details, mostlikely is gonna cost a lil extra, but I'll do my best.

EDITED : the company name is united sunshine co.

the ballast specs are the following :


Normal input Voltage:12V
Allowbale input Voltage:9V-16V
Normal input Current:3.5A
Normal output Wattage:35W(T=35 C)
Ignition Voltage:23KV
Operating Temperature Range:-40 C ~105 C


and this is the color chart.



This post has been edited by Culpable04: Sep 16, 2006 - 11:59 AM

[94celicadude]

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )
3. MassBrandon (H1)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K)
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)

[Velliety]

I'm in - been waiting for a good deal on a decent set.


1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )
3. MassBrandon (H1)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K)
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)

[95GT]

How will payments be accepted for these?

[6gsillyca]

what I meant was, are the ballasts and ignitors seperate or are they combined in one unit.

is there a website for the company?

[Culpable04]

How will payments be accepted for these?

paypal or money orders

what I meant was, are the ballasts and ignitors seperate or are they combined in one unit.

is there a website for the company?

I think they come separated but I'll doble check with the company.

and we can see the website but not order from them, I think is just for JDM.

JLM co.

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Sep 17, 2006 - 2:25 AM

[chacha]

when is the payment due...if it is within 2 weeks from now...i am in for sure(i mean it)...that's when i get paid....

also...What about the BEAM PATTERN...don't want glares...these sets comes with no mods for the beam pattern correction right????

This post has been edited by chacha: Sep 17, 2006 - 2:33 AM

[Culpable04]

I'm gonna keep the list till friday to see if we get enough people to do this, so on friday I'll set the date for the payment.

[Culpable04]

when is the payment due...if it is within 2 weeks from now...i am in for sure(i mean it)...that's when i get paid....

also...What about the BEAM PATTERN...don't want glares...these sets comes with no mods for the beam pattern correction right????

no, no mods to the beam patern. I think they have options if you want to choose an specific one, but I have to doble check.

if anybody have any other question let me have know, so we all get as much info as possible before we put our money on this.

This post has been edited by Culpable04: Sep 17, 2006 - 2:39 AM

[kamax]

i am in for a pair, as long as i get the product =/ i hope it's the right bulb for the projectors

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )
3. MassBrandon (H1)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K)
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)
8. Kama (H1 , 8k)

[chacha]

let me make it clear for myself...the kit comes for both the high and the low headlights? so a total of four ballasts? or is it only two ballast?

[airfron]

Cha looks like 1 set is only 2 ballasts.. for highs and lows you'd need two sets

also looks like CDM not JDM

depending on how many other people are in on this by Fri. i might be.. got to sort out some of my money before i spend it

[chacha]

lol...your absolutely right airfron...

[6gsillyca]

Are these units shock/water proof?

[Culpable04]

^^
yes !
this is quote from their site

Safety: safety of the personnel can be guaranteed because the high-voltage line is disconnected by the sensor circuit in the system in the event of accidents.

[massbrandon]

just wanted to add that I want the 10000k

[6gsillyca]

i am in for a pair, as long as i get the product =/ i hope it's the right bulb for the projectors

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )
3. MassBrandon (H1)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K)
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)
8. Kama (H1 , 8k)

Yes H1 bulb is for JDM low beam projectors.

[Culpable04]

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K )
3. MassBrandon (H1 10k)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K) canada
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)
8. Kama (H1 , 8k)

anybody that is getting two sets please post it next to your name, and if you are somewhere outside US post it too so I can have all the info and together.



This post has been edited by Culpable04: Sep 17, 2006 - 5:25 PM

[chacha]

Culpable04.... Why don't you talk to this seller... it will still be the same price, if not, better...

EBAY HID KIT...OSRAM >>>BRAND THATS UP WITH PHILLIPS & HELLA...

[Culpable04]

I can get those from the supplier, not from him but the manufacturer. if you see they cost 140 on ebay mostlike the cost per unit is somewhere around 75-80 dollars, you can always go to the cheapest ( specailly on ebay ) but I don't do that. I sell all kind of stuff from sneakers, ipods , etc. I know where they get all that stuff on ebay. this kit I'm planning to get goes for 200 dollars on ebay, I'm not making any profit from this, but after this group buy is over I'll start selling this kit on ebay but for at least 175, if everyone agrees that would be better to order those you show I can get them for all of you and I'm sure won't be more than 100 shipped but to me it's not worthy; but it's up to all of you.

I was in the susp. tech sway bar GB and I was glad that I got that for that price, then there was a GB for JDM tails, I wasn't because of money issues so, I though that I doesn't take me too much effort to do this and I wanted to cooperated with the site.

[coldbluesteel]

So if we are going to keep this open till Friday, how much lower will it go if we have say 15 or 20 on order? I ask because I'm looking for 1 to 3 sets. (Celica and 4runner)

[Culpable04]

I already email the company about it, we should get discount since I'll be ordering at least 5 sets for myself so I hope we can get in the 20s range.

[Bitter]

if you can get to around 120 shipped or lower i'll be in.

[Enrique]

I’m thinking of getting 2nd set if the price goes lower......

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K, 9006 )
3. MassBrandon (H1 10k)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K) canada
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)
8. Kama (H1 , 8k)

[kamax]

do you know how good the quality of the HID kit is? if it's good quality, i could always get a friend to get a set also, for a mazda6 i believe... not sure what bulb those use

[Akira_g4]

do you know how good the quality of the HID kit is? if it's good quality, i could always get a friend to get a set also, for a mazda6 i believe... not sure what bulb those use

I think the mazda 6's have H1 bulbs...but i could be wrong

[Culpable04]

I could choose diferent manufactures, we all agree that this are not the best HIDs on the market and we all know how much those cost, but these are the best for the money' plus the 1 year warranty really works not since we are getting these from the manufacturer and not from a reseller so we know where to send this if something goes wrong.
I did check the defect rate of this manufacturer and it was 0.04 % which I think is acceptable.

[QuintinGT]

one of my headlights has a rock chip (hole) in it. would that cause the HID to burn out faster, or cause any other problem since it is not sealed and can get wet?

[coldbluesteel]

Yeah I would say that any moisture is bad when dealing with lights, which light is broken?

[Shigexile]

since most of us don't have projectors wouldn't that make the light spread out more and scatter the light?
just wondering since someone told me about this from a different site.

[QuintinGT]

actually both of my lows have chips

[coldbluesteel]

actually both of my lows have chips

If they both get condensation, then personally I would seal them before I put HID's in.
Option 1- buy some projectors.
Option 2- buy some used lights.
Option 3- seal them, different methods depending where the leak is.
Option 4- put some HID's in there and take your chances.

This post has been edited by coldbluesteel: Sep 18, 2006 - 2:57 PM

[95GT]

I'll be getting two sets, one for my Civic also.

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K, 9006 )
3. MassBrandon (H1, 10k)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
. (9003, 10K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K) canada
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)
8. Kama (H1 , 8k)

This post has been edited by 95GT: Sep 18, 2006 - 7:47 PM

[CelicaSTX02]

I did an HID group buy a while back, and I have to say that this is an excellent price. If you don't already have HIDs...definately hit this up!!

[6gsillyca]

Anyone know when these pipe dreams get any closer to becoming a reality? ie official GB thread in B/S forum??

[Culpable04]

Just waiting for Coomer's approval. he's a little busy so people be patient.

[AudioFreak]

Put me down for two sets 9006/5k

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K, 9006 )
3. MassBrandon (H1, 10k)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
. (9003, 10K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K) canada
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)
8. Kama (H1 , 8k)
9. Audiofreak (9006, 5K) x2

[Daftboy]

There is no 3000k being offered that is correct ?

[QuintinGT]

Ill take a set.

1. culpable04 ( 6K, 9006 )
2. Enrique (8K, 9006 )
3. MassBrandon (H1, 10k)
4. 95GT (9006, 6K)
. (9003, 10K)
5. 6gsillyca (H1 6000K) canada
6. 94celicadude (6K, 9006)
7. Velliety (9006, 8K)
8. Kama (H1 , 8k)
9. Audiofreak (9006, 5K) x2
10.QuintinGT (9006, 5k)

[Kasper]

I might be able to work something out if I can get them for 120 or so.

[Daftboy]

3000k anyone ? =[

[Culpable04]

3000k anyone ? =[

the lowest temp available is 4500 I think the 3000 k is what they call a halogen booster ( not an HID )
but I could be wrong.

[kamax]

what we waiting for on this group buy?

[Culpable04]

Just waiting for Coomer's approval. he's a little busy so people be patient.

be patient, we all know he has a lot to do.

[coldbluesteel]

So how many more sets do we need to get a better discount?

[Culpable04]

I did get a better price, just hold on for the official G/B and all the details will be clear for everyone.

[princemb]

3000k anyone ? =[

the lowest temp available is 4500 I think the 3000 k is what they call a halogen booster ( not an HID )
but I could be wrong.

3000K is totally yellow, perfect for fog light!!

btw, culpable04, i´m from Venezuela and i want to know how can i do for talk whit that store!! i want to sell them (HID) here in my country... can you give me some number phone?? some contact'?? if you want, send me a pm please...

[Daftboy]

yea i have HID low beams and would like to complete the look with HID foglights. I know they have them but it appears that this seller does not I guess =/

http://www.xenondepot.com/product.php?product_id=114

This post has been edited by Daftboy: Sep 23, 2006 - 7:30 AM

[celica47]

wow this strange xenondepot offers 6000K and looks just as blue as 10000K how can that be?

[Culpable04]

LOOK AT B/S SECTION !!
Now is official !

[Akimbo]

i dont know which is best to get...I want it to be noticeably HID, but emit a lot of light too. its important because i drive from work all the time at night in the country too.

Also, will there be glare issues with USDM headlights? I want a nicely cut beam...

[elvasoshexai]

i dont know which is best to get...I want it to be noticeably HID, but emit a lot of light too. its important because i drive from work all the time at night in the country too.

Also, will there be glare issues with USDM headlights? I want a nicely cut beam...

is it foggy in the country? i know when i drive outside of the city it gets noticeably foggier... if yes... bright lights are a big nono and i suggest you should get some fog lights as well...

but to answer ur question... yes there will be glare issues with usdm headlights, no it wouldn't have a nice cut off beam

[richee3]

So 4500K is a very usable HID? I want the brightest light I can possibly get, but I know that the higher the Kelvin rating, the dimmer the bulb will actually be. So is 4500K brighter than standard halogens? Because I have a 9005 bulb in my 9006 low beam and that helped a lot but not as much as I would like.

[GriffGirl]

So 4500K is a very usable HID? I want the brightest light I can possibly get, but I know that the higher the Kelvin rating, the dimmer the bulb will actually be. So is 4500K brighter than standard halogens? Because I have a 9005 bulb in my 9006 low beam and that helped a lot but not as much as I would like.

Wow, talk about bringing a thread back from the dead

HIDs are brighter than halogens by nature. It's sort of like comparing the difference of a flashlight to a candle - it's the source itself that makes it bright. The temperature color doesn't actually make the light dimmer per se, it's more a matter of how far that particular light wave in the spectrum is able to travel. Yellow enhanced depth perception, blue can fatigue the eyes. A lot of people chose blue as an aesthetic choice though, but personally I wouldn't recommend it for long drives like road trips or anything.

4500k would be a very good quality white light that leans towards a warmer white which is best for depth perception - as opposed to 5000k which is also very white but is a cooler white that leans comparatively toward a bluish cast.

See my sig for the link to the HID group buy; page 1 has a lot of good info.

[richee3]

So 4500K is a very usable HID? I want the brightest light I can possibly get, but I know that the higher the Kelvin rating, the dimmer the bulb will actually be. So is 4500K brighter than standard halogens? Because I have a 9005 bulb in my 9006 low beam and that helped a lot but not as much as I would like.

Wow, talk about bringing a thread back from the dead

HIDs are brighter than halogens by nature. It's sort of like comparing the difference of a flashlight to a candle - it's the source itself that makes it bright. The temperature color doesn't actually make the light dimmer per se, it's more a matter of how far that particular light wave in the spectrum is able to travel. Yellow enhanced depth perception, blue can fatigue the eyes. A lot of people chose blue as an aesthetic choice though, but personally I wouldn't recommend it for long drives like road trips or anything.

4500k would be a very good quality white light that leans towards a warmer white which is best for depth perception - as opposed to 5000k which is also very white but is a cooler white that leans comparatively toward a bluish cast.

See my sig for the link to the HID group buy; page 1 has a lot of good info.

I couldn't help it

I actually found this thread through your signature lol.

Like I said, I want the brightest possible light I can get, something very usable. I had blue headlights when I had my truck and I might as well have been using a flashlight. They SUCKED. So I don't ever want blue headlights again. Practicality before cosmetics. Besides, blue headlights wouldn't look good on my car anyway. The reason I want a bright light is because I live WAYYY out in the country. I totalled one Celica out, I've wrecked this one, and the other day, I just about wrecked it again, all on deer. So I need a bright light for night driving so I can see the deer when they are a little further away lol. Like I said, I modified my 9005 bulbs to fit my 9006 low beams, and that helped a lot, but it's still not enough. So now I'm seriously considering spending the money for HID's, since I hear so much about them. But only if they'll actually help me out.

[GriffGirl]

I can guarantee that the HIDs will be brighter than your halogens, even though you're running 9005s in your low beams. As to whether they're bright enough, that's gonna be for you to determine of course. When I first moved to Oregon, I moved to the country. I went from living in NYC with approximately 11 million other people to living in a small town that had a population of 2400 in the "city" limits. I did not live in "city" limits - so I know what you're saying when you say you live way out in the country and need brighter headlights. My girlfriend is from the same very small town outside of Portland, and we go out there regularly to see her parents, who also live outside of city limits (and thus beyond any reach of actual street lights on some of the roads). My HIDs kick ass for the drive. Windy country roads lined by woods on each side, except the north side of the highway where there's a big ass river on the other side of those woods, about 100 yards through.

Personally, I say try them out. I really don't think you'll be disappointed. Worst case scenario is that you feel like you've not gotten your money's worth; I don't think I can accept returns but let me confirm that. If I can't for some reason, I'm willing to bet you can resell them on here with no problem at all. Actually, scrap that. Return them to me and I'll give you your money back. I'll take the chance with them and if I can't get my money back on them, I'll keep them.

For your purposes I would recommend 4300k for the yellowish as opposed to bluish tint, to maximize your depth perception. What you experienced with the blue lights is the EXACT SAME THING I experienced when I had blue lights on my '87 Pathfinder when I lived out in BFE. I HATED the blue. It looked cool but I couldn't see worth a sh1t, and they were even worse in the rain which here in the PNW, is a BIG problem.

If you really don't want yellow, I'd go 5000k for the cooler white. I've got 5000k on my car now and the trips out to BFE are just fine, even in the rain. I wouldn't have minded having the 4300k too though and if I were to do it again, I might go with that.

[Supersprynt]

Kelvin is color.
Lumens is brightness.

You want 4500-6000k.

And maybe an airhorn to scare deer.

This post has been edited by Supersprynt: Nov 25, 2008 - 1:32 PM

[richee3]

Well, alright then! As soon as I get some money, I'll put myself on the list for the next GB. I still live out in BFE and probably will for a while, and I'm getting sick of slamming on my brakes for deer, so I'm trying to "deer-proof" my car, starting with visibility. I figure the first step is seeing the deer. After this, I'm going with all new brakes, but that's later.

I'm not a huge fan of super blue headlights, so I'll just stick with yellow.

As far as the airhorn goes, I'll take anything! Lol.

[trdproven]

8000k is the best ones I've seen, I've also had 5000k, not so white.

[richee3]

8000k is the best ones I've seen, I've also had 5000k, not so white.

Really? You think 8000K is better than 5000K as far as visibility goes? I'm not concerned about color as long as it isn't super blue. I want literally the most light output I can get. Does anyone have any pictures of the actual light output of their HID's or would I just have to see them in person?

[elvasoshexai]

there must b a reason 4300K is OEM rite? so i would stick with 4300K

it rly isn't that yellow... 3000K is yellow (generally used for foglights)

8000K is too high. the further away you move from around 4300-5000k the worse visibility will get. 4500K or so is around what sunlight is @ noon. 8000K might be bright, but it won't project a lot of light to the ground... and as griff mentioned, it will suck in wet weather because the beam gets lost in the rain

pic in my avatar is 4300K... but then i got HID projectors...

This post has been edited by elvasoshexai: Nov 30, 2008 - 6:10 PM

[richee3]

Ah, ok. I'll just stick with 4300K then. I honestly don't understand a lot about lights as I'm sure you can easily tell by now. Thanks for all the help! You guys are awesome. I'm working on saving up some money so I can get some HID's. Hopefully I won't be too late for any of the GB's