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post Sep 27, 2006 - 12:08 PM
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Well, I'm going to need a new clutch very soon frown.gif . Do stage 2 and 3's last longer? OEMs just arent liking my driving style kindasad.gif . I drive my celica hard, apparently too hard for OEM clutches, and F putting out another $950 to have my mechanic take a week and a half to do it. I'm gonna do this one myself, but i would like to hear your opinions first. Thanks
post Sep 27, 2006 - 1:52 PM
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I like a stage 2. Stage 3 makes it just to ruff for when the girlfriend gets in the car. Stage 3's are hard on other components too. A 2 will allow an upgrade, but without the negative effects of transmission and axle breaking problems of a 3. I speak from experiance. Launch hard on a 3, and something will give. In a 2 and 1, it will be the clutch, but in the 3 it will be something possably more expensive.


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post Sep 27, 2006 - 5:35 PM
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lagos or def, any suggestions or opinions?


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post Sep 27, 2006 - 9:30 PM
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Im running an ACT clutch kit with a Street Disc. Its a full faced disk but its engagement is WAY better than stock. the clutch pedal is a little stiffer than stock but it wont kill you in traffic. I know you asked for stage2 or 3 but i just wanted to throw in another option for you smile.gif
post Sep 27, 2006 - 11:51 PM
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QUOTE(eggman40 @ Sep 27, 2006 - 10:30 PM) [snapback]484606[/snapback]

Im running an ACT clutch kit with a Street Disc. Its a full faced disk but its engagement is WAY better than stock. the clutch pedal is a little stiffer than stock but it wont kill you in traffic. I know you asked for stage2 or 3 but i just wanted to throw in another option for you smile.gif

Probably the best option. A full faced anything. When you get those star shaped ones, they just wear out fast and push super hard in my experiance. But, I haven't had a ton of cars or experiance like a couple of the guys on here who have built several cars.


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post Sep 28, 2006 - 9:07 AM
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QUOTE(eggman40 @ Sep 27, 2006 - 9:30 PM) [snapback]484606[/snapback]

Im running an ACT clutch kit with a Street Disc. Its a full faced disk but its engagement is WAY better than stock. the clutch pedal is a little stiffer than stock but it wont kill you in traffic. I know you asked for stage2 or 3 but i just wanted to throw in another option for you smile.gif

Stronger than OEM?
post Sep 29, 2006 - 8:56 AM
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post Sep 30, 2006 - 2:27 PM
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anyone kno?
post Sep 30, 2006 - 9:33 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Sep 30, 2006 - 3:27 PM) [snapback]485737[/snapback]

anyone kno?

Anyone know what? You've got your answer.


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post Sep 30, 2006 - 9:52 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Sep 28, 2006 - 9:07 AM) [snapback]484783[/snapback]

QUOTE(eggman40 @ Sep 27, 2006 - 9:30 PM) [snapback]484606[/snapback]

Im running an ACT clutch kit with a Street Disc. Its a full faced disk but its engagement is WAY better than stock. the clutch pedal is a little stiffer than stock but it wont kill you in traffic. I know you asked for stage2 or 3 but i just wanted to throw in another option for you smile.gif

Stronger than OEM?

post Oct 1, 2006 - 12:11 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Sep 28, 2006 - 7:07 AM) [snapback]484783[/snapback]

QUOTE(eggman40 @ Sep 27, 2006 - 9:30 PM) [snapback]484606[/snapback]

Im running an ACT clutch kit with a Street Disc. Its a full faced disk but its engagement is WAY better than stock. the clutch pedal is a little stiffer than stock but it wont kill you in traffic. I know you asked for stage2 or 3 but i just wanted to throw in another option for you smile.gif

Stronger than OEM?

Yes it is probably stronger than OEM. Just get a upgrade pessure plate and if that doesn't suit you then upgrade the disc. ACT or Clutchmaster have pressure plates that have more clamping power but still have an OEM style disc. Having an OEM style disc will allow the clutch to engage smoother but still give you better than OEM grip. The upgraded disc (ie a dual friction) will only wear other parts faster. In my truck I have a centerforce pressure plate with 70% more clamping power and a dual friction clutch disc and it grabs quick. Good luck with the upgrade and let us know if you have other questions. Also stay away from the clutches on Ebay. Most of them are repainted OEM units sold as performance even though they add no more performance than OEM.
post Oct 1, 2006 - 1:05 PM
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I replaced my clutch with a Stage 2 LUK full faced one. Are you mechanically inclined? 900 bucks? Good grief thats steep. I shelled out under 200 for mine and it took me and pops about a weekend to do. Make sure you tighten those engine mounts and mark the position of your steering components or you'll have to shell out 50 bucks for an allignment.
post Oct 1, 2006 - 4:21 PM
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Thanks guys, that was exactly what I was looking for.
post Oct 1, 2006 - 5:04 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Oct 1, 2006 - 4:21 PM) [snapback]486059[/snapback]

Thanks guys, that was exactly what I was looking for.

what kind of clutch would i use for the the 3sgte clutch with a 5sfe tranny?
post Oct 1, 2006 - 5:56 PM
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QUOTE(2slow2nervous @ Oct 1, 2006 - 6:04 PM) [snapback]486077[/snapback]

QUOTE(laff09 @ Oct 1, 2006 - 4:21 PM) [snapback]486059[/snapback]

Thanks guys, that was exactly what I was looking for.

what kind of clutch would i use for the the 3sgte clutch with a 5sfe tranny?

Search the Forced induction section for answers. It's been covered before. I dont' know the answer or I wouuld tell you, but I know I've seen it before.


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post Oct 1, 2006 - 8:14 PM
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QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Sep 27, 2006 - 1:52 PM) [snapback]484465[/snapback]

I like a stage 2. Stage 3 makes it just to ruff for when the girlfriend gets in the car. Stage 3's are hard on other components too. A 2 will allow an upgrade, but without the negative effects of transmission and axle breaking problems of a 3. I speak from experiance. Launch hard on a 3, and something will give. In a 2 and 1, it will be the clutch, but in the 3 it will be something possably more expensive.


Stage 2, 3, 4 etc. doesnt really tell you much without a manufacturer because they very from brand to brand. For instance, stage 1-3 on clutchmasters, the engagement feels exactly like stock. The primary difference between stages within a brand is how much torque the clutch can take and how much travel is in the clutch for engagement purposes. Typically, the higher the number, the more torque and less travel. While a higher stage generally means the clutch is beefier and may take more of a beating, riding the clutch will make it wear out faster than the same clutch that is driven more gingerly.


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i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this.
post Oct 1, 2006 - 9:53 PM
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Oct 1, 2006 - 9:14 PM) [snapback]486155[/snapback]

QUOTE(Bigmeanbulldog55 @ Sep 27, 2006 - 1:52 PM) [snapback]484465[/snapback]

I like a stage 2. Stage 3 makes it just to ruff for when the girlfriend gets in the car. Stage 3's are hard on other components too. A 2 will allow an upgrade, but without the negative effects of transmission and axle breaking problems of a 3. I speak from experiance. Launch hard on a 3, and something will give. In a 2 and 1, it will be the clutch, but in the 3 it will be something possably more expensive.


Stage 2, 3, 4 etc. doesnt really tell you much without a manufacturer because they very from brand to brand. For instance, stage 1-3 on clutchmasters, the engagement feels exactly like stock. The primary difference between stages within a brand is how much torque the clutch can take and how much travel is in the clutch for engagement purposes. Typically, the higher the number, the more torque and less travel. While a higher stage generally means the clutch is beefier and may take more of a beating, riding the clutch will make it wear out faster than the same clutch that is driven more gingerly.

You very well could be right. I only speak from my experiance with clutches I've had in my cars. I would go more on what Jay says that what I say on this subject.


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post Oct 1, 2006 - 9:55 PM
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I heard that you can actually go and get yourself a Kevlar clutch using your OEM clutch. THe cost is around $100-200. Basically they rebuild your old one with a new kevlar surfacing. It is able to hold up to 500HP. I suggest you go and find someone who could do this and save some $$.
post Oct 2, 2006 - 10:48 PM
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QUOTE(soulshadow @ Oct 1, 2006 - 9:55 PM) [snapback]486207[/snapback]

I heard that you can actually go and get yourself a Kevlar clutch using your OEM clutch. THe cost is around $100-200. Basically they rebuild your old one with a new kevlar surfacing. It is able to hold up to 500HP. I suggest you go and find someone who could do this and save some $$.

http://www.clutchmasters.com/shop/?page=sh...&AppID=4102

Anyone use this? or heard any positive/negative feedback on this? Seems like this is what I am looking for
post Oct 3, 2006 - 10:25 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Oct 2, 2006 - 11:48 PM) [snapback]486742[/snapback]

QUOTE(soulshadow @ Oct 1, 2006 - 9:55 PM) [snapback]486207[/snapback]

I heard that you can actually go and get yourself a Kevlar clutch using your OEM clutch. THe cost is around $100-200. Basically they rebuild your old one with a new kevlar surfacing. It is able to hold up to 500HP. I suggest you go and find someone who could do this and save some $$.

http://www.clutchmasters.com/shop/?page=sh...&AppID=4102

Anyone use this? or heard any positive/negative feedback on this? Seems like this is what I am looking for

That's so much money. I wouldn't mess with it unless I needed it. I would just use that ACT kit, check some other reviews on it.


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post Oct 4, 2006 - 1:22 AM
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OEM is around 350 iirc, and I neeeed something that won't go out on me in 8-9 months.
post Oct 4, 2006 - 8:32 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Oct 4, 2006 - 2:22 AM) [snapback]487304[/snapback]

OEM is around 350 iirc, and I neeeed something that won't go out on me in 8-9 months.

From your list of mods, I would say you just need to learn to drive it a little better. Sorry man, but stock clutches don't just burn out in these things that quick unless you can't drive with them right.


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