How many of us have owned a Honda? Options

[BlackCelicaGT94]

I had an 88 accord LXI for my first car. Its true I started out as a Ricer.

I had 17" konigs, blue honda emblems (my red ones got jacked), blue side turn lights....luckily I was jealous of my brothers Supra and made my way over to Toyotas.

If you have have any pics or have owned a honda - FESS UP!


Heres a pic of mine - in a ditch lol! it was either hit the Mercedes or go into the ditch. Ditch sounded better. Luckily It came out with nothing wrong with it. Cop was going to cite me but told me that if i woulda hit the pole I probably woulda died so he thought that was a good enough warning! lol.

[zachattack15]

At least you put your honda where it belongs.....in the ditch.

[BlackCelicaGT94]

well now its been my bros car for 2 years cuz of his supra that got the 7mgte swap and then 2 months after it was done it got stolen. So he pimps it - lol he put a bobafett sticker on it and stuff haha! soon my celica will be the back up car in the family

[ExSane]

I use to have a 95 Accord Coupe EX VTEC. I loved it. The looks and the low-end power of a SOHC and plus the VTEC. First gear and second gear honestly was way faster than my Celicas without a doubt. But I sold the car and bought my 95 Celica ST. Honestly I felt like I've downgraded... until I get my 3S swap! Mahahahahaha!

[Jen]

my 2g integra.
reposessed from my ex.

[confucious]

I don't even need to comment on this. You know what I think of you as a driver and you are proving me more and more right with each post.

I own a 2006 Honda Civic SI - 6 speed - navigation - bought it with 2 miles on it. It's got almost 5,000 now and I love every minute of it.

[saleeka]

Had a 98 Accord LX four door for a short time... Had 14,XXX on it when it got totaled this August Nice car...

[Magic]

My first car was Honda Prelude 2.2 VTEC 1994 JDM

[soulshadow]

I crashed my '95 Civic EX into a fence and nearly lost my legs in the wreck.
A wooden fence 3 Ft long 1 Ft high broke off, came under the driver side tires, went through the firewall, and came right out of the clutch to where I was sitting. If my left foot was a little more to the right I would be on crutches now and driving an Automatic for the rest of my life. I would be a crippled.

[BlackCelicaGT94]

I don't even need to comment on this. You know what I think of you as a driver and you are proving me more and more right with each post.

LOL congratulations! i would say that any other girl I know woulda hit the Mercedes where I decided swerving off was the best idea. Plus i was 16 lol!

You have nothing good to say on this site..........

[amysmojo]

I've gone from -----> to ----->

But I have never owned a

[confucious]

LOL congratulations! i would say that any other girl I know woulda hit the Mercedes where I decided swerving off was the best idea. Plus i was 16 lol!

You have nothing good to say on this site..........

I'm sorry I'm adding a little common sense/honesty in fantasy land.

I keep my comments reasonable and fair, without breaking any rules.

[CelicaBuddy]

wasn't driven by me but it was in the family....




hahaha it was stolen three times... finally my sister just gave up with it and bought a Lexus IS300. Which was prolly the dumbest move she could possibly do cuz now she's in dept up the a$$.

I love my cheap car hahaha

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

LOL congratulations! i would say that any other girl I know woulda hit the Mercedes where I decided swerving off was the best idea. Plus i was 16 lol!

You have nothing good to say on this site..........

I'm sorry I'm adding a little common sense/honesty in fantasy land.

I keep my comments reasonable and fair, without breaking any rules.

please excuse him BlackCelicaGT94, he owns a

nuff said, its a honda thing, its in his blood.

the mother used 2 have a 90 accord DX and she said it would be mine when i get my license like 8 years ago... it wass stick too but she got rid of it coz it wass havin problems lmfao

she got the rav4 and knew she wass set 4 life lol i wouldnt drive the old DX tho cause i dont like having power nothing.

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Oct 7, 2006 - 2:43 PM

[confucious]

i own two celicas too. i guess that means i'm a half-breed.

fyi: my bone stock civic can waste ANY modded, NA celica.

also, you really owned yourself on that last one. considering your mom owned honda's and the whole vicarious learning thing.

[Mike]

This recurring anti-Honda sediment on this site is incredibly stupid. Honda used to make the NSX, Toyota hasn't produced a real sports car in 6 years, so stop bashing something that is potentially better than what you own.

I don't like all Honda's either, but that dosen't mean I'm going to stereotype a whole group of car owners into something that they're not.

[confucious]

This recurring anti-Honda sediment on this site is incredibly stupid. Honda used to make the NSX, Toyota hasn't produced a real sports car in 6 years, so stop bashing something that is potentially better than what you own.

I don't like all Honda's either, but that dosen't mean I'm going to stereotype a whole group of car owners into something that they're not.

Thank you.

[amysmojo]

This recurring anti-Honda sediment on this site is incredibly stupid. Honda used to make the NSX, Toyota hasn't produced a real sports car in 6 years, so stop bashing something that is potentially better than what you own.

I don't like all Honda's either, but that dosen't mean I'm going to stereotype a whole group of car owners into something that they're not.

Thank you.

yeah whats with stereo types *sheeesh*

[confucious]

This recurring anti-Honda sediment on this site is incredibly stupid. Honda used to make the NSX, Toyota hasn't produced a real sports car in 6 years, so stop bashing something that is potentially better than what you own.

I don't like all Honda's either, but that dosen't mean I'm going to stereotype a whole group of car owners into something that they're not.

Thank you.

yeah whats with stereo types *sheeesh*

hahhaha now theres a girl who knows what fun is. maybe you should learn from this one black celica

[BlackCelicaGT94]

^ lol shes one of my best friends!!


Im not talking crap about Hondas...my honda is still going strong and i put 85,000 miles on that car in one year! Im pissed that my bro got it and curbed every wheel! Its a great car just I love my celica more

[amysmojo]

^ lol shes one of my best friends!!


Im not talking crap about Hondas...my honda is still going strong and i put 85,000 miles on that car in one year! Im pissed that my bro got it and curbed every wheel! Its a great car just I love my celica more

word up black celica word UP....

curbed wheels make me sad my wheels must hate me lol

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

i own two celicas too. i guess that means i'm a half-breed.

fyi: my bone stock civic can waste ANY modded, NA celica.

also, you really owned yourself on that last one. considering your mom owned honda's and the whole vicarious learning thing.

2 letters.

S and O

did i ask if a honda could dust a celica????

i think we all know that ALREADY you dont need to point out the OBVIOUS.

stop being a show off and go play with urself and ur honda. i dont hate hondas, i just hate that people think that honda's are the greatest thing on earth. LMFAO i saw a honda rev at a porsche once down in signal hill i wass laughing.

your obviously still a child at heart

you think like a primape too, i guess evolution hasnt had its chance on you.

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Oct 7, 2006 - 9:28 PM

[3WayStunna]

ohh man, when i first got back to the states, my first car and my current car, is a 00' prelude.....i love it, and its good on gas mileage, but it pales to my old celica coupe.....everytime i have a probelm with the prelude i always say, ive never had these problems with my 12yr old celica, lol...cant wait until my current celica is up to speed though, no more slow cruisin.....




This post has been edited by 3WayStunna: Oct 8, 2006 - 1:19 AM

[DomGT]

Please tell me how you drove 85,000 miles in one year.

Also I feel the need to say that I don't think a 300hp G35 is the right car for you based on your driving habits. Some drivers go a life-time without swerving. You have to admit that you drive aggresively.

[confucious]

S and O

Huh?

did i ask if a honda could dust a celica????

i think we all know that ALREADY you dont need to point out the OBVIOUS.

stop being a show off and go play with urself and ur honda. i dont hate hondas, i just hate that people think that honda's are the greatest thing on earth. LMFAO i saw a honda rev at a porsche once down in signal hill i wass laughing.

You are putting words into my mouth. I am just reminding you of the Celica's place in the world of cars. Did I say Hondas were the greatest thing on Earth? Nope. You must have missed the part of me owning CelicaS. [note the stress on the plural] Did you see that Honda vs. Porsche when you were with your mommy?

your obviously still a child at heart

And proud of it. You're obviously still a child, literally.

you think like a primape too, i guess evolution hasnt had its chance on you.

Wait, why are you even saying this? Haven't you see the Geico commercials? About the cavemen...?

If you want to look like a moron, keep posting. If you haven't noticed only you and a couple of others oppose what I say. I can continue posting professionally and not personally attacking you because you make it so easy to do.

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

S and O

Huh?

did i ask if a honda could dust a celica????

i think we all know that ALREADY you dont need to point out the OBVIOUS.

stop being a show off and go play with urself and ur honda. i dont hate hondas, i just hate that people think that honda's are the greatest thing on earth. LMFAO i saw a honda rev at a porsche once down in signal hill i wass laughing.

You are putting words into my mouth. I am just reminding you of the Celica's place in the world of cars. Did I say Hondas were the greatest thing on Earth? Nope. You must have missed the part of me owning CelicaS. [note the stress on the plural] Did you see that Honda vs. Porsche when you were with your mommy?

your obviously still a child at heart

And proud of it. You're obviously still a child, literally.

you think like a primape too, i guess evolution hasnt had its chance on you.

Wait, why are you even saying this? Haven't you see the Geico commercials? About the cavemen...?

If you want to look like a moron, keep posting. If you haven't noticed only you and a couple of others oppose what I say. I can continue posting professionally and not personally attacking you because you make it so easy to do.

you imply like honda wass put on earth by god.

i wass with a cousin when i saw the honda revving at a porsche by the signal hill dealers

im not a child im a TEEN!

you have nothing good 2 say so keep it 2 urself.

professionally?? there's nothing professional about you.

go do something. 6gc isint for people like you that like 2 rant and rub in other peoples mistakes and misfortunes thus making them feel worse.

6gc is like a family, and ur obviously the adopted sibling.

the apple does not fall far from the tree.

ur still a honda dude get used 2 it go on the honda forums, take ur crappy attitude somewhere else.

you might be a big fish in a small pond here but on da honda forums its the other way around huh you get punkd for having a stock civic.

and you get punkd professionally...

p.s 3.5 gpa??? with that attitude??? lol wow what a smart ass

who'd u hang out with in high school? nobody???

you get flamed xcore in real life so you come to the forums seeking a way to get away from life.

but to flame other people??? come on now. thats just pathetic. do it in person not with a keyboard.



This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Oct 8, 2006 - 3:09 PM

[confucious]

you imply like honda wass put on earth by god.
-- where? prove it.

i wass with a cousin when i saw the honda revving at a porsche by the signal hill dealers
-- was has one s. good job, you witnessed a moron.

im not a child im a TEEN!
-- one thing you are not is an ADULT.

you have nothing good 2 say so keep it 2 urself.
-- aren't you being a little hypocritical?

professionally?? there's nothing professional about you.
-- gee, you got me there mr. i can't spell/type.

go do something. 6gc isint for people like you that like 2 rant and rub in other peoples mistakes and misfortunes thus making them feel worse.
-- i do help people, just not you. i don't rub mistakes/misfortunes in people's face, i comment on idiotic mistakes/misfortunes.

6gc is like a family, and ur obviously the adopted sibling.
-- nope, parents happily married. if 6gc is a family you are obviously the black sheep. look around once at how many people comment on thinks you say such "ban that nutbag" in the other thread.

the apple does not fall far from the tree.
--- didn't i just say this to you?

ur still a honda dude get used 2 it go on the honda forums, take ur crappy attitude somewhere else.
-- i'm actually not that big into cars at all. but if you say i am, i am.

you might be a big fish in a small pond here but on da honda forums its the other way around huh you get punkd for having a stock civic.
--- i'll take that as a compliment. i don't race cars. i collect them.

and you get punkd professionally...
-- ok?

p.s 3.5 gpa??? with that attitude??? lol wow what a smart ass
--- thanks.

who'd u hang out with in high school? nobody???
--- wow, this shows your immaturity. who you hung out in high school? wow. again, wow. fyi i hung out with everyone.

you get flamed xcore in real life so you come to the forums seeking a way to get away from life.
--- i don't get flamed "xcore" in real life. never have, never will. again, your immaturity shows. this stuff ends in high school.

but to flame other people??? come on now. thats just pathetic. do it in person not with a keyboard.
--- i don't flame other people either, i have no reason to.

This post has been edited by confucious: Oct 8, 2006 - 4:31 PM

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

[quote name='confucious' date='Oct 7, 2006 - 4:28 AM' post='488759']
[quote name='BlackCelicaGT94' post='488562' date='Oct 6, 2006 - 5:51 PM']

[/quote]
I don't even need to comment on this. You know what I think of you as a driver and you are proving me more and more right with each post.
[/quote]

gee not flaming anybody huh??? you just OBVIOUSLY tried 2 flame natalie.

[/quote]

[quote]
im not a child im a TEEN!
-- one thing you are not is an ADULT.
[/quote]

never said i was.

[quote]
you have nothing good 2 say so keep it 2 urself.
-- aren't you being a little hypocritical?
[/quote]

ask yourself that question.

[quote]

professionally?? there's nothing professional about you.
-- gee, you got me there mr. i can't spell/type.
[/quote]

i don't care. mr. im trying to prove something about nothing.

[quote]

6gc is like a family, and ur obviously the adopted sibling.
-- nope, parents happily married. if 6gc is a family you are obviously the black sheep. look around once at how many people comment on thinks you say such "ban that nutbag" in the other thread.

[/quote]

thats just their opinions. like you said people are entitled to their opinions.

i am not the black sheep, you are.

[quote]
the apple does not fall far from the tree.
--- didn't i just say this to you?
[/quote]

nope.

[quote]
I own a 2006 Honda Civic SI - 6 speed - navigation - bought it with 2 miles on it. It's got almost 5,000 now and I love every minute of it.
[/quote]

not a car peson eh? oh and i just proved that.

[quote]
you might be a big fish in a small pond here but on da honda forums its the other way around huh you get punkd for having a stock civic.
--- i'll take that as a compliment. i don't race cars. i collect them.
[/quote]

than why the hell did you bring up that ur p.o.s civic can dust our celi's?

thank you for pointing out the obvious, captain obvious.

[quote]
and you get punkd professionally...
-- ok?
[/quote]

truth hurts don't it.

[quote]
p.s 3.5 gpa??? with that attitude??? lol wow what a smart ass
--- thanks.
[/quote]

you might have had a 3.5 but u got no proof.

and the way you act, it dosent seem to support the 3.5.

[quote]
who'd u hang out with in high school? nobody???
--- wow, this shows your immaturity. who you hung out in high school? wow. again, wow. fyi i hung out with everyone.[quote]
My "experiance" is that I could tell you I had a 4.0 and you'd have to believe me. Why? This is the internet.
[/quote]
[/quote]

yeah you could just say that and not mean it

[quote]
you get flamed xcore in real life so you come to the forums seeking a way to get away from life.
--- i don't get flamed "xcore" in real life. never have, never will. again, your immaturity shows. this stuff ends in high school.
[/quote]

what??

[quote]My "experiance" is that I could tell you I had a 4.0 and you'd have to believe me. Why? This is the internet.[/quote]

how about your job? never will again??? lmfao

oh yea but then id have to belive you cause its the "internet" huh

[quote]
but to flame other people??? come on now. thats just pathetic. do it in person not with a keyboard.
--- i don't flame other people either, i have no reason to.

[quote]QUOTE(coldbluesteel @ Oct 2, 2006 - 10:02 PM)

Ive got a NC custom plate on my 4runner and it's stamped. It says STUNNER.




ps, is that coomer in the middle?

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[/quote]

oh and there's more.

like saying natalie drives like a moron, ect. the list goes on...

I have diagnosed you with this



you absolutely CRAVE and ADORE attention.

and you get it by flaming other people.

everyone read his previous posts.

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?act=Se...mp;hl=&st=0

more than 50% of that is nothing but flaming.

does he not flame?

thank you for your time and have a nice day

oh and by the way, you are the nuttbag. your a jerk too.

dammit the quotes didnt work! lmfao!

oh well just ignore that.

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Oct 8, 2006 - 5:29 PM

[confucious]

i will. i can prove everything. i just don't have to, not to you anyways. i'm not even going to waste time answering because it seems like you are stuck on the "i know you are but what am i?" defense.

also, the one thing i will defend is the "black sheep" claim. sorry, but we don't have black sheep in my immediate family. my brother is going on for his doctorate and i just finished college.

This post has been edited by confucious: Oct 8, 2006 - 8:44 PM

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

i will. i can prove everything. i just don't have to, not to you anyways. i'm not even going to waste time answering because it seems like you are stuck on the "i know you are but what am i?" defense.

also, the one thing i will defend is the "black sheep" claim. sorry, but we don't have black sheep in my immediate family. my brother is going on for his doctorate and i just finished college.

proven, facts are against you.

case closed.

by a 15 year old.

[BLINKYxMUNKEY]

I hate to say it, but everytime I see this thread, I always think of this picture.

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

I hate to say it, but everytime I see this thread, I always think of this picture.

new thread... how many of us have owned a hummer???? lmfao

[coldbluesteel]

Hummer... never owned one but have been in one with a .50 cal machine gun. And why do I see a comment about my license plate on here? let me find out someone's talking nonsense and I'll have to go get the HUMVEE!

[Sh0gunkid8721]

i dunno whats more pathetic...the fact that u guys actually went through each one of ur quotes and had to retaliate for every word that u guys said...or the fact that confucious claims to be a mature person and spends his weekend fighting with a teen on the internet.

ive seen many nice hondas in my time so i dunno why everybody bashes em. never owned one though.

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

i dunno whats more pathetic...the fact that u guys actually went through each one of ur quotes and had to retaliate for every word that u guys said...or the fact that confucious claims to be a mature person and spends his weekend fighting with a teen on the internet.

ive seen many nice hondas in my time so i dunno why everybody bashes em. never owned one though.

hey when you gotta get ur point across, you do what u gotta do, fight fire with water.

p.s heres the original quote about ur plates, i couldnt do it right.

Ive got a NC custom plate on my 4runner and it's stamped. It says STUNNER.

\

ps, is that coomer in the middle?

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Oct 8, 2006 - 10:04 PM

[confucious]

hondas rule.

[coldbluesteel]

If I wanted a good economy car, I would drive a Civic... really.

[ImportChick95]

My first car was a '93 Honda Accord. Loved it. I now drive a Honda Civic. I wouldn't hesitate to buy another Honda. My celica now sits in the gargage next to my brother's Toyota supra and collects dust. I still love it though.

[slvr_celica_GT_8...]

before i got the celica my dad was thinking of buying me a civic but he passed it up and got me the celica, i neva had one but my two first cars were a 89 crown vic and a beat up '93 buick century

[devilsden97]

I hate to say it, but everytime I see this thread, I always think of this picture.

new thread... how many of us have owned a hummer???? lmfao

maybe the real question is, how maybe people have honestly continplated doing that to a honda?

[zachattack15]

My dad had an H2 for a while. I drove it when he was out of town on business. Too big for me. Didnt like driving a tank like that. Ill stick with my mr2.

This post has been edited by zachattack15: Oct 9, 2006 - 9:30 AM

[trd94]

i own a honda civic that i am working on a turbo for (ok its my wifes car) and i also have a nissan 240sx that will be a full race car (my other toy besibes the celica) i would say the honda has a little more up keep but takes bolt ons really well, the nissan is in a lot of parts right now as the build is going on ,and the toyota i have had to change tires and oil and that is about it (other than all the turbo goodies) i would take a toyota over a honda just because of the reliablity and low up keep , but both are awesome cars

[gt_driFFter]

fyi: my bone stock civic can waste ANY modded, NA celica.

Really? I would certainly hope it would, considering you spent 4x more what most people on here spent on their celica's.

This post has been edited by gt_driFFter: Oct 12, 2006 - 1:57 PM

[tnltracy]

1990 CRX HF. 55MPG, but top speed of about 105

[confucious]

fyi: my bone stock civic can waste ANY modded, NA celica.

Really? I would certainly hope it would, considering you spent 4x more what most people on here spent on their celica's.

Yup. I stand by my previous statement.

How did I spend 4x more than what most people spend on celicas? My civic is stock?

[gt_driFFter]

2006 Honda Civic SI - 6 speed - navigation - bought it with 2 miles on it.

Advertised Price Range for 94-99 toyota celica
$14,990 Highest price
$1,399 Lowest price
$6,511 Average price

Honda Civic Si
MSRP including selected accessories: $23,635

This post has been edited by gt_driFFter: Oct 12, 2006 - 3:32 PM

[Toyoca]

fyi: my bone stock civic can waste ANY modded, NA celica.

Really? I would certainly hope it would, considering you spent 4x more what most people on here spent on their celica's.

Yup. I stand by my previous statement.

How did I spend 4x more than what most people spend on celicas? My civic is stock?

who cares? its a civic. any1 ever go up to you and say "nice car." doubtful lol. no offense

[Ryu3x16]

I don't know about you..but I've gone up to a civic and say "hey nice car!".. after i smoked him with my s2k of course. kinda stupid bragging about racing a ex ciovc though,huh?. LOL .. I love hondas I don't why everyone here is so against it

This post has been edited by Ryu3x16: Oct 12, 2006 - 5:04 PM

[devilsden97]

I don't know about you..but I've gone up to a civic and say "hey nice car!".. after i smoked him with my s2k of course. kinda stupid bragging about racing a ex ciovc though,huh?. LOL .. I love hondas I don't why everyone here is so against it

on a side note, did u get your cf hood on your s2k fixed?

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

2006 Honda Civic SI - 6 speed - navigation - bought it with 2 miles on it.

Advertised Price Range for 94-99 toyota celica
$14,990 Highest price
$1,399 Lowest price
$6,511 Average price

Honda Civic Si
MSRP including selected accessories: $23,635

lmao confucious. proven wrong once again

thats 4 in a row!

[spolski07]

i almost bougt a integra
but on the way home from the dealership to get the money
we saw the guy selling his (now mine) celica
and i jumped on it
never actually owned a honda
but a 1985 mazda RX7 12A top speed of like 90.....
that thing was a POS
lol
thank you lord for the celica!!!

PS: cant we all just get along? family isnt susposed to fight, we all have at least 1 thing in common...
WE LOVE 6GC'S!!
lets keep it that way

This post has been edited by spolski07: Oct 12, 2006 - 5:26 PM

[ExSane]

fyi: my bone stock civic can waste ANY modded, NA celica.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA! YEAH RIGHT! I smoked so many modded Civics on the road! laugh: I go street racing every weekened and it got to the point where all them Civic ricers don't even want to race me anymore. The only ones that actually beat me are the hatchback Type-R swaps or faster. GSRs can kiss my tails goodbye. Besides that, Turbo'ed cars wanna race me for warmups. Civics are a freakin joke unless you are doing a JDM or KA20 swap. But my whole point being is that they are made for only one purpose... saving gas and daily driven to last. If you plan on doing anything to those car to make it fast, you gotta do more than just bolt ons becuz those stock engines don't have any power potential at all even with the extra 300 rpm VTEC.

This post has been edited by ExSane: Oct 12, 2006 - 5:48 PM

[presure2]

this has gone far enough.
closed.

[confucious]

Onto the cost issue: I paid new. I'm sure if you had money, you might have done the same.... 10 years ago.

People tell me nice car all the time

And for those who don't know,

Check out the specs of the new civics. You might be surprised

If you were real "car enthusiasts" you'd know some specs.

This post has been edited by confucious: Oct 12, 2006 - 5:58 PM

[XS4lv1Truch0x]

Onto the cost issue: I paid new. I'm sure if you had money, you might have done the same.... 10 years ago.

People tell me nice car all the time

And for those who don't know,

Check out the specs of the new civics. You might be surprised

If you were real "car enthusiasts" you'd know some specs.

like yourself???

lol i thought u werent into cars. what happened?

your statements contradict theirselves. get ur facts straight.

People tell me nice car all the time

we would have 2 belive you cause its the internet huh??

oh and fyi, we don't care about your opinions about what you think, i belive you have already expressed that enough.

new celica's were worth more than your new honda.

oh and p.s i bet your "stock" honda cant dust a stock gt four ever

This post has been edited by XS4lv1Truch0x: Oct 12, 2006 - 6:07 PM

[ExSane]

If you were real "car enthusiasts" you'd know some specs.

Yes, I know the specs on the new ones and they don't surprise me. The Si did a tiny bit but not even enough to say, "Hmmm." More like an "Oh..."