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post Nov 6, 2006 - 7:05 AM
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I just got my car back from my paint job. I noticed there was alot of dust from the overspray and all. However, when I turned on my car, my overdrive light keeps blinking. What is that?

Second, my miles per hour arrow goes crazy. Even if I just turn on my car the miles per hour goes from 0 - 60 back down to 0 then up to 140 then back down and then it does not move at all. My odometer, the one that counts each mile is moving by itself. I know my cluster was in good working condition. It also affected my transmission. My car will rev up high and the car won't move even with the car rolling, almost like the tranny isnt catching. So i started with L then moved my way up to 2 then back to drive, then it starts moving. but it seems like my car is downshifting almost like someone is turning off my overdrive.

Do you guys think that my intake or injectors got dirty from sucking in all that dust? Can I use injector cleaner?

Overall, this is a bad experience for me especially when all these things were working before I dropped it off. Maybe the body men were messing around with my car. I just hope someone out here can assist me figure this out. I'd appreciate alot.


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post Nov 6, 2006 - 11:50 AM
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check your battery ground cables. they might have disconnected them while working on the car, and forgot to put them back on in the right spot.

injector cleaner wont help you. the problem sounds like its an electrical one.


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post Nov 6, 2006 - 11:59 AM
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ask the shop what the hell they did to your car! it does sound electrical, check connections to the transmission as well.


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post Nov 6, 2006 - 4:41 PM
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For some reason when I tried it out again this morning it was acting normal. What the hell is going on? I'm gonna try again when I get home from work.

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post Nov 6, 2006 - 5:04 PM
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damn. I'd hate to see what it would do if the people that painted did a motor swap for you.


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 10:57 PM
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Any update on what the problem was?


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post Nov 8, 2006 - 11:24 PM
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post Nov 9, 2006 - 10:31 PM
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your overdrive light is blinking because it give you a tranny code,I would look it up see what it is I think someone should have a code list. second issue sounds like a miss connection somewhere. I would have a tech look at it and then take it back to the place you paint and say my car work fine when I brought it in now it not. either make them fix the problem or have they pay your local tech to fix it.

This is a long shot your said it drive normal the next day did at any time did just not move when you press on the gas? I would check that code it could be a soloiend code that they could of unplug one or both of them. like the other person said it not injection problem. get a flashlight and look down where the tranny dipstick rod start (only name I could think of) there will be three connection down there one in the middle and two behind it the one behind are your soliend cables check to see if not unplug. Hope this help just going by what happen with my old tranny



post Nov 21, 2006 - 4:53 PM
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i started having the exact same problems this week, i've bee npainted for a week, now my odometer is not acting crazy but i am having al lthe transmission problems exactly as he stated. today for the first time i overdrive light blinked a few times,.......i about to get the transmission checked tommorrow cuz i thought it was shot. my car does try to downshift like when let of the gas, the weird thing is that when the engine heats up it drives pretty good again, i seem to having this problem majorly when the engine is cold, but i had NONE of the problems before i got painted


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post Nov 21, 2006 - 5:44 PM
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post Nov 22, 2006 - 4:27 PM
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thx trdproven, that battery reset seems to do the trick, that is still wierd whats up with that? but man i'm so relieved now


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post Nov 23, 2006 - 4:44 PM
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no biggie, I think its from all that dust.


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post Dec 2, 2006 - 8:48 AM
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Damn, the problem started again after a good number of days working. The overdrive light keeps blinking on and off. I did some research online and it says: 1. my tranny is about to give up, 2. or an electrical sensor problem. Its weird though, my technique that solved it for those good numbers of days only lasted a while but so far it still seems to be working for illneversellmycelli. Anyone?


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 6:41 AM
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might they have pressurewashed before painting and happened to spray water under the bonnet, cause shorts in the circuits?
post Dec 4, 2006 - 11:48 AM
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Yeh.... i just got my car painted... i just tried to start it and it wont even turn over... pisses me off lol


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 10:48 PM
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battery... im a dumbass


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post Dec 4, 2006 - 11:33 PM
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QUOTE(vsideboy @ Dec 4, 2006 - 6:41 AM) [snapback]507606[/snapback]

might they have pressurewashed before painting and happened to spray water under the bonnet, cause shorts in the circuits?



My friend actually painted it at his shop with two other guys, what might have happened is there was a lot of overspray dust that got on there. Every morning or the first time I turn on my car for the day it works perfect until maybe about 5-10 miles the gauge cluster goes crazy (up and down or just stays down), my overdrive light keeps blinking and my auto trans gets out of gear or it downshifts on its own. I know its not a trans problem because my car is well maintained and it was fine before I dropped it off. If my trans was going bad, I would have seen it come slowly not just bam right away. I really believe it is an electrical/computer problem because if there is something wrong if the electrical then it affects the mechanical. could be from the dust, is there a harness or wire or sensor I can clean or check?

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post Dec 5, 2006 - 3:42 AM
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This is sounding a bit dodgy, is it a common fault after having the car sprayed? Anyone else had it?

I guess it wouldn't happen in a proper spray booth with dust extraction then? Or are these guys using a booth?

So will the dust be metallic and causing a short somewhere then?

Does it just happen on Automatic Cars or on Manual too?

Is it just happening on Celicas or all cars?

Puts me off getting it sprayed if its gonna run crap forever after.

It certainly sounds wierd to me.
post Dec 6, 2006 - 12:22 AM
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It happened to illneversellmyceli. When it works, it does work. The car was painted in a booth.


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post Dec 6, 2006 - 1:01 PM
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Lesson #1 dont let friends work on your car, because there are always problems and you dont want to be the bad guy by asking them to make it right.
post Dec 11, 2006 - 7:13 PM
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QUOTE(laff09 @ Dec 6, 2006 - 1:01 PM) [snapback]508357[/snapback]

Lesson #1 dont let friends work on your car, because there are always problems and you dont want to be the bad guy by asking them to make it right.


I know what you mean, but at the same time, the biggest concern of having your car being worked on is by someone you trust. I know he wouldn't do anything to it, it may be a bad luck of something or weird coincidence.

Anyways, my car has been working normally for the most part. yupp, for the most part. the trans still feels like it cannot shift on its own. I believe it is an electrical problem, because the body shop was working on the underhood. Not a mechanical/tranny, because when it works it does really work for a good distances. Do you guys think it may be the moisture of when they were wetsanding and prepping the hood? Thats the only explainable reason for me to believe it is maybe a wire or sensor. Could it be throttle sensor, speed sensor, tubes? still trying to figure it out but I can't cus when my car works normal, I don't know what to check. Most importantly, I can't find a consistent factor or variable when the car starts messing up, its almost random. If I could find that then I'm sure it will be solved.


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post Dec 11, 2006 - 7:25 PM
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man still having problems that sucks

well 3 choices you have

first make sure you have plenty of transmisison fluid, my friend got painted and had simiar problems like us, turned out he was really low on tranny fluid

if that aint the case, have a tranny mechanic check the tranny

3rd take the car to the dealership and have them run the OBD diags on it

i know those last two choices sucks but it can't be as bad as the condition of the car's performance, mine was almost undriveable when it was acting up

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post Dec 12, 2006 - 9:29 AM
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Update: Car still acting normal for the most part. However, some weird thing happened the last time it acted up. When it messes up, the speedometer usually drops all the way down and stays down, the last time it messed up was three days ago, the car went out gear felt like neutral as I was going and then it corrected itself. Now, the weird part is, normally when it messes up the speedometer does not move at all and stays at 0mph, but it dropped down then recorrected itself and went back up to the normal MPH. Hmmm, is the car trying to correct itself slowly?


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post Dec 14, 2006 - 12:07 PM
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my guess is a short caused by a liquid. you said it shorts when its cold normally, and then works when its warm... would the liquid be vaporizing then condensing when the engine cools? also the sign that its slowly getting better kinda says the liquid is slowly working its way out, probably when its vaporized. Def an electrical problem. I would say getting your codes scanned would be the first step if your going to bring it anywhere. i know there are some places that will do it free with their estimates (at least in my city there is).
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I would take it toyota and have a master tech look at it,they will only charge like 30 buck to run the overdrive light.other then that from what I am reading the wire harnes is the problem.Spend a little money bring it to toyota and go from there.From what you been saying everyone has said the same thing.I am going to say something wrong with the wire harnese wire was put on wrong and fry something.scan tool will only tell what code it giveing which is the first step I beat it going to say soliend 1,2,3 which leads to someone said let a tranny tech look at it.

being honest take it to a toyota master tech and explain what happen and go from there.
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I understand, but why hasn't it given me a problem for 2 weeks now.


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post Dec 18, 2006 - 9:29 PM
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I think this is hard issue everone has said what the problem could be and there all right.I think you need to go through one problem at a time.

your saying there a shift problem which can only be coming from the tranny area which mean check ever cable and wire that runs to the tranny.see if there any break in the wire.Also you said speed level does not move.there a speed sensor on the tranny that control that.Example to answer your two week ago.I put in a used tranny from japan shop it was test and warranty I install the tranny and one week later it went on me.I put another tranny from the same place no problems now.from what you say with it going in neutral I had the same problem with my oringal tranny and then one day tranny just would go in reverse.I think it sign of the tranny ready to go.check fluids and see if there enough in the tranny get the code to find you what they are.

second this could be a wire problem said by the last person where there is so many place to look where it would be hard to explain where it is.it could be the wire harnes it could be the computer it could be a fuse going off.where everything could be fine and one drop of water on a wire that is cut or broken the car will act werid.

third you have to understand this is a 10 years old car or less mean who ever paint it could have paint over a good ground connection or bend the wire and put them back in and there your problem.

To finish off take to someone who know something about car I think personnal this is something that a master toyota tech should look over the car or spend money rebuild the celica or get another one. I hope this help and but judge where you live it burea right is there a toyota place to take it to. well good luck and hope you solve the problem

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