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![]() Enthusiast ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Joined Aug 31, '02 From Philadelphia, PA Currently Offline Reputation: 8 (100%) ![]() |
just got back from the dyno. i made some really good power from the ct26 with water injection. ended up hitting 247hp and 270tq at 16psi ! thats an 18hp and 21tq gain from where i was before !
video from the dyno] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgSDcuXc2vY ![]() This post has been edited by lagos: Jan 28, 2007 - 4:22 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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nice. the water injection really helps alot. can we see a comparison from the graph before and this?
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here is the before and after. the dyno operator started to record my dyno a 4k of my WI run, but you can clearly see how it made a lot more power through the entire rpm range
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270tq...whoa. Fanstastic results.
A/F looks real good too. -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 20, 2007 - 5:06 PM) [snapback]519536[/snapback] 270tq...whoa. Fanstastic results. A/F looks real good too. for the 1st run, my a/f ratio was getting lean into the 13s (but with no knock). i had to add about 10% fuel with the safc to get it into a nice and safe 11s -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 20, 2007 - 4:09 PM) [snapback]519537[/snapback] QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 20, 2007 - 5:06 PM) [snapback]519536[/snapback] 270tq...whoa. Fanstastic results. A/F looks real good too. for the 1st run, my a/f ratio was getting lean into the 13s (but with no knock). i had to add about 10% fuel with the safc to get it into a nice and safe 11s Were the numbers higher on the first run? -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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very nice art! that WI is probably your best mod yet
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oooooh man ive been waiting for this thread for a couple weeeks now
![]() Nice numbers Art, I think Manny hooked his WI up this afternoon. I wonder what 18 psi would have given you? |
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GREAT results art, why'd you start your run so late?
now i can back up your raves about smurf piss as well! got my kit installed a little while ago...this stuff is GREAT. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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My best run was 287hp and 290ft/lb .. at 14-15psi.. but for some reason the lines are alll over the chart.. they start to smoothen out after 6K... I need to figure this out..
After my first run guy told me I did 299hp.. turns out I guess that was on STD correction tho not SAE.. bleh. Also either my AEM wideband is reading out wrong or their wideband in my muffler was reading out wrong.. They had me at near 14afr.. yet the whole time I watched my gauge and I never broke above 11... except for when I hit 19PSI then I saw 11's... yet my best power seemed to be at 14-15psi.. so I gotta figure out what is going on.. I have a few idea's already. -------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 20, 2007 - 8:13 PM) [snapback]519570[/snapback] GREAT results art, why'd you start your run so late? now i can back up your raves about smurf piss as well! got my kit installed a little while ago...this stuff is GREAT. i started the runs at like 3k to match up with my old ones, but i think the dyno operator didnt start recording till 4k for some reason. he did the same thing on punishers car. steve, after looking at your dyno again, you do run out of fuel on your 1st 19psi run. then after you turned the boost down to 14psi, you have the fuel, but you have MAJOR knock response. the cause of it is either your timing or your turbo. everyone on here and mr2oc uses STD correction. so its ok to post your numbers in that. This post has been edited by lagos: Jan 20, 2007 - 8:28 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Jan 20, 2007 - 8:18 PM) [snapback]519571[/snapback] My best run was 287hp and 290ft/lb .. at 14-15psi.. but for some reason the lines are alll over the chart.. they start to smoothen out after 6K... I need to figure this out.. After my first run guy told me I did 299hp.. turns out I guess that was on STD correction tho not SAE.. bleh. Also either my AEM wideband is reading out wrong or their wideband in my muffler was reading out wrong.. They had me at near 14afr.. yet the whole time I watched my gauge and I never broke above 11... except for when I hit 19PSI then I saw 11's... yet my best power seemed to be at 14-15psi.. so I gotta figure out what is going on.. I have a few idea's already. congrats on the great #s..post the charts i bet you get some nice response outta the 'spud too! be sure to post that on mr2oc too, they'd like to see those results as well. -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 20, 2007 - 6:33 PM) [snapback]519549[/snapback] QUOTE(lagos @ Jan 20, 2007 - 4:09 PM) [snapback]519537[/snapback] QUOTE(jgreening @ Jan 20, 2007 - 5:06 PM) [snapback]519536[/snapback] 270tq...whoa. Fanstastic results. A/F looks real good too. for the 1st run, my a/f ratio was getting lean into the 13s (but with no knock). i had to add about 10% fuel with the safc to get it into a nice and safe 11s Were the numbers higher on the first run? 1st run made 248 and 271... so about 1hp difference. id rather loose that and be safer. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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![]() I would've done better.. but something is up.. I don't know why the power is all over the damn place.. stick it up on mr2oc.. maybe they can lend some insight.. I'm gonna check some things out when I get the chance.. too tired to give a fruck right now. -------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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seems like your going lean, and hitting knock response from ~4800-6K+
are you running 550s? or the stockers? -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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I don't feel like typing everything up here so u can read the whole run down with my engine on mr2oc
http://www.mr2oc.com/showthread.php?p=2363221#post2363221 it's the stockers.. if that is the case than my wideband is lying to me.. or the fuel ain't getting burnt in the cylinders... -------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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very nice gains
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Nice numbers guys. Looks like a great dyno day.
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video from that run added to 1st post
defgephs camera mount was used (sticking out the window) This post has been edited by lagos: Jan 20, 2007 - 11:43 PM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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QUOTE(presure2 @ Jan 20, 2007 - 7:52 PM) [snapback]519580[/snapback] seems like your going lean, and hitting knock response from ~4800-6K+ are you running 550s? or the stockers? classic knock response whether the a/f is correct or not. This post has been edited by jgreening: Jan 21, 2007 - 12:24 AM -------------------- QUOTE(lagos @ Jul 10, 2006 - 1:55 PM) [snapback]454118[/snapback] i know your trying to do the right thing for your motor, but this is one of those times where you should just trust the guys who have had their swaps for a while and have done a ton of research into this. |
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I wonder why it didn't show on the knock LEDs then...
-------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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http://dv.mistertam.com/4.htm
Check it out.. looks a lot like my dyno graph huh? Turns out I put the diverter valve in backwards.. I seem to have an issue with installing things backwards huh? Honest mistake seeing as the valve didn't come with instructions and on Forges website they have instructions for installing on a vehicle that comes with a factory bosch recirc valve.. so no help there. I installed it in the most logical way I thought.. but anyway what is happening is the valve was opening and then closing.. which is why my boost/horsepower was fluctuating so greatly.. -------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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2nd video . lots of different cars
http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...6B1A16E4E11779E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rgSDcuXc2vY This post has been edited by lagos: Jan 21, 2007 - 3:14 AM -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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Next time will be better.. I shall slay thyne dyno!! or blow my **** up in the process.. either way it'll be a grand time for all!
-------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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LAGOS you r the man! congrads!
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QUOTE(easternpiro1 @ Jan 21, 2007 - 3:32 AM) [snapback]519662[/snapback] LAGOS you r the man! congrads! LOL.. GIVE ME YOUR 4TH GEN!!! -------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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Great results guys. Now I need to dyno my stock by summer just to have a baseline for possible future mods.
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hey, you guys need to add your charts to the dyno registry!!!
http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=39452 -------------------- Former Team 5SFTE pro member ;)
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I'll add my next chart.. this one is horrible cuz of the boost issue.. I flopped that recirc valve around today and she boosts hella quicker.. more responsive.. I'll get back to the dyno in a week or two.
-------------------- 87 4runner DLX 22re, 5spd, 4.30gr, 4" lift, 30" tires, HID w/ Projectors, 6spkr + sub, custom exhaust, 94 celica leather seats, SR5 gauge cluster and clinometer. Future engine swap... possibly a 2jzge.
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QUOTE(Punisher @ Jan 21, 2007 - 7:16 AM) [snapback]519639[/snapback] http://dv.mistertam.com/4.htm Check it out.. looks a lot like my dyno graph huh? Turns out I put the diverter valve in backwards.. I seem to have an issue with installing things backwards huh? Honest mistake seeing as the valve didn't come with instructions and on Forges website they have instructions for installing on a vehicle that comes with a factory bosch recirc valve.. so no help there. I installed it in the most logical way I thought.. but anyway what is happening is the valve was opening and then closing.. which is why my boost/horsepower was fluctuating so greatly.. the forge website says that you can install it either way, and also, from the link that you just posted "The function and sole job of the dv is to maintain an air-tight seal during acceleration, and remain open at all other intervals. It's as simple as that. No matter which way you install it, there is pressure that's going to try to open up the spring and release air." |
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i dont see how a bov could work both ways. inside of there is going to be a spring and a valve. if you installed it one way, the spring would push against the boost to try to keep it shut, but the amount of boost it would hold would depend on the springs tension. after a certain psi, they would leak boost.
if you install it the other way, then the boost would help seal the valve and it could hold any amount of boost. the spring would be there to help assist it keeping it closed under minor changes in vac or at idle. i would install it the 2nd way myself, unless you know exactly how much boost that bov was designed to hold. -------------------- 15PSI - 30MPG - Megasquirt Tuned
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