HTR FWD BUILD UP, FWD Beast Options

[HARDTARGET]

pics of my new project, which when done should run in the 9sec. zone in the 1/4 mile. And did i say this will be street driven... The motor in the car is just a dummy motor being used the do all the mark up necessary till the real beast goes in it.

[Batman722]

oh this is gonna be fun...

[Defgeph]

Can't wait to see the progress. Please be as detailed as possible.

[CilverSeliST205]

i cant wait to see this...

[ice23q]

Im gonna wish you all the luck in the world with your build. Are you gonna let us into what you are gonna build..???? Something GTE yeah?

Mmmmm.... gonna keep an eye on this one..its gonna be fun...

[HARDTARGET]

Im gonna wish you all the luck in the world with your build. Are you gonna let us into what you are gonna build..???? Something GTE yeah?

Mmmmm.... gonna keep an eye on this one..its gonna be fun...

Thanks, yeah it goona be 5s block with either 3rd gen head or 2ng gen head, don't know yet.

[6strngs]

can I have your RWD one then?

[jdg371]

Thats some project build up.. hehe Good Luck.. How much power are you expecting?

[HARDTARGET]

Thats some project build up.. hehe Good Luck.. How much power are you expecting?

Im gonna tune it for about 850 or 900 hp,

can I have your RWD one then?

If you can beat the offer i got already, it might be sold by the end of this weekend.

[Alan]

WOW man 900BHP, would like to see some of your ideas

[HARDTARGET]

WOW man 900BHP, would like to see some of your ideas

It's not really an idea, i've done it before. i'll post pics of my progress as i move along. other than local close friends you guys will be the first.

[x_itchy_b_x]

sick. 900hp on race gas right, not pump? or meth injection?
whats your part list look like

[Negative]

Just favorited this thread. I'm very interested and excited to see the progress on this. Ever think ov AWD?

[Punisher]

why in gods name would you sell the rwd track car?!?!?!

I'd punch a baby in the head for that thing.

This post has been edited by Punisher: Mar 9, 2007 - 11:42 AM

[Negative]

[Alan]

WOW man 900BHP, would like to see some of your ideas

It's not really an idea, i've done it before. i'll post pics of my progress as i move along. other than local close friends you guys will be the first.

No I meant for me

[HARDTARGET]

sick. 900hp on race gas right, not pump? or meth injection?
whats your part list look like

Meth fuel

[lagos]

so whats the story behind your rwd car? why are you building a fwd one if you already have a 9sec celica?

[celicaST]

so whats the story behind your rwd car? why are you building a fwd one if you already have a 9sec celica?

for a street car perhaps. he cant exactly take his drag car out for a cruise.

[x_itchy_b_x]

ive never seen a meth powered streetcar...

[HARDTARGET]

so whats the story behind your rwd car? why are you building a fwd one if you already have a 9sec celica?

The FWD car is the RWD car now, it's the same car. Im building the green one for the street "won't be driven every day" but will be able to run in the NHRA sport FWD class, that's why im building it. The story with the RWD is i'm in the process of building a 2007 RWD Scion TC and the RWD celica is almost sold.





This post has been edited by HARDTARGET: Mar 9, 2007 - 4:28 PM

[InfamousChappy]

How are you gonna hook up 8 or 900 FWD horsepower and be able to drive it on the street? Just curious.

[jdg371]

800BHP in a 5SGTE is crazy lol. That turbo will be size of the engine haha.

I wonder if they would permit you to run a 503E.. It's been fitted and ran in a MKII MR2.. =] Just a thought.

[HARDTARGET]

How are you gonna hook up 8 or 900 FWD horsepower and be able to drive it on the street? Just curious.

I'm not planning on street racing, it will be a waste of time. anything over 450hp on a FWD car on the street is a waste, it will never hook up. The car will be able to drive as far has the meth fuel takes it.

[HARDTARGET]

800BHP in a 5SGTE is crazy lol. That turbo will be size of the engine haha.

I wonder if they would permit you to run a 503E.. It's been fitted and ran in a MKII MR2.. =] Just a thought.

do i need to say more.

[Batman722]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

[HARDTARGET]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

[jgreening]

Just out of curiosity, can you stay below 5500 RPMs and never reach positive manifold pressure? On a WOT run, will it fall out of boost when shifting? How high will you rev it on a WOT run?

[Blakout16]

i dont think the turbo is big enough

[Alan]

Yeah like what is that Turbo? and how much does the motor need to rev to spool up, Do You use antilag or NOS for it to spool

[toyotacrazy]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

[HARDTARGET]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

[toyotacrazy]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

Where does it crack?

[playr158]

doesn't the 5sfe have thicker walls then a 3sgte newayz?

5s blocks are often used for stoker motors as well

[presure2]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

that would be because the 5s, and the 7a for that matter are known for having weak rod bolts.throwing a rod thru the block says nothing about the blocks intergrity.
a little research on mr2oc will net quite a few reasons people use the 5s block, besides the .2 liters that you gain with it.

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

Where does it crack?

they tend to crack between the bores.

[x_itchy_b_x]

between 2 and 3 because of the internal coolant passage.

[toyotacrazy]

This thread is very interesting. I believe the rod studs pull out of the rod. From what Ive seen anyways.

[HARDTARGET]

just a quick question...why a 5s block ?

stronger than any 3s gen 1 or 2, haven't done a 3rd gen yet.

How do you figure a 5s block is stronger than a 3s block. Ive seen dozens of 5s-fe throw a rod for no reason, on a well maintained car, being driven normally, with plenty of oil. Just curious. Not trying to criticize you.

the oiling system on factory 5s sucks your right, when i take a 3s and a 5s block and put over 40 lb of boost and run it down the 1/4 mile and crack the 3s block almost every time and "NEVER CRACK" the 5s block, that's why the 5s block is stronger for me and other reason.

Where does it crack?

they tend to pull the head stud closest to the water pump right off and so do the older 5s blocks also.

[playr158]

use L19 head studs?

[HARDTARGET]

Well guys it's been a while, but it's time to get this car done, finally got some spare time to work on the car, I'll get some updated pics but not much diff from before just got the intake manifold almost done.

[Defgeph]

glad to see this going again ? what trans are you going to be running in the fwd setup ?

[lagos]

More pics and vids would be great....

[HARDTARGET]

I still have my old tranny set up when i had my old red celica FWD, it's actually a mixed tranny with 3sge parts and mr2 turbo gear set so i could use the big axle setup,I ran 9.50's with this set up and NEVER broke an axle.

[Defgeph]

can you give me some more information about this set up. I have a 95 3sge trans. I eventually want to change transmissions. I'm thinking of going e153lsd. But im curious about your mash up.

Thanks

[HARDTARGET]

Let me dig deep into my brain, me and my dad put this tranny together 9 years ago, i'll double check with him to see if my memory is correct.

[lagos]

Who is involved in building these cars? Does your family own a shop?

This post has been edited by lagos: Jan 23, 2009 - 8:57 PM

[HARDTARGET]

Who is involved in building these cars? Does your family own a shop?

All the engine work is done by me and my dad,tunning is all me, chasiss work is all done by JC race cars in West Palm Beach,FL.

[lagos]

You are a man of few words and details..lol
How much money goes into building a 7sec car? That TC you got looks like is done right, and had a lot of money put into it.
How about some detailed pictures of the build up of these cars?

[HARDTARGET]

You are a man of few words and details..lol
How much money goes into building a 7sec car? That TC you got looks like is done right, and had a lot of money put into it.
How about some detailed pictures of the build up of these cars?

lol..
In drag racing it all comes down to "how much $ you wanna spend determines how fast you wanna go".
building a 7 sec car all depends on how u wanna build it.
i'll post some pics.

[HARDTARGET]

1980 Toyota Corolla with a 5sfe block with 3gen head

[Akimbo]

crikey. maybe ill come down to WPB and you can give me a 3s swap

[95st-celica]

wow..thats awesome man...good luck with this build
what size turbo is that?
and what kind of standalone are you using to run that?
did you have a 2 step for your FWD red one or any other goodies?

[CelicaST_CALI]

that wastegate is huge .....0.0.....

[x_itchy_b_x]

no intercooler? looks good though.

[Defgeph]

Looks really nice, I love rwd corollas.

[HARDTARGET]

wow..thats awesome man...good luck with this build
what size turbo is that?
and what kind of standalone are you using to run that?
did you have a 2 step for your FWD red one or any other goodies?

The turbo is a t76 with t4 flange.
on this car just switch from an microtech to EMS from Australia, loved the way it worked on my TC so swap over.
No two step when it was FWD but it was on methanol.

This post has been edited by HARDTARGET: Jan 24, 2009 - 12:12 PM