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[easternpiro1]

whats up guys, im getting ready to go to the track tomorrow. any suggestions? waterbox tips? launch suggestions?

just curious what i will run been wondering for a while. wish me luck!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Mar 18, 2007 - 8:08 PM

[presure2]

whats up guys, im getting ready to go to the track tomorrow. any suggestions? waterbox tips? launch suggestions?

just curious what i will run been wondering for a while. wish me luck!

if your running street tires, go around the waterbox. if anything just spin them once around to kick the dirt and rocks off them.
just lower your air pressure in the fronts, crank up the rears, launch soft, and hit it hard!!!
(you'll just spin the tires if you really rev it before launch...you'll have to find the sweet spot for your own car.)
GOOD LUCK!!

[playr158]

just give them a little spin to clean them

run about 26-30psi in your front tires

biggest tip is learn how to slip the clutch out off a launch hard to teach via a post but, i'd probably say some where between 2k and 2,500 rpm hold at the light then slip the clutch out while giving it gas....abuses the clutch some but if you can do it right, you'll end up full boosting maintaining traction and getting good 60' times...

just remember a drag race is won and lost on the launch concentrate on getting them down really good and lowering your 60' times as much as possible...a realistic goal for your 60' foot times are like 2.2 to 2.3 seconds

[easternpiro1]

thanks! what about spin later on? i will almost certaintly spin in 2nd (got my tires 3-4 weeks ago and theyre starging to give a bit)

[jdg371]

With the change in tire pressure it should reduce the tire spin. Since you will most likely spin in 2nd, I would say slip the clutch, But there might be better ways.

[Jaws4God]

so... how did it go??? :-)

[easternpiro1]

okay im back! I did HORRIBLE on my first try. it was bad. I thought my clutch went out on me after i tried to launch off the start. i was told i had white smoke coming out of the back (BOTH have never happened before) i cant begin to know what happened with that.


then I finally got better at my reaction time (my best was a .14something) and my best quarter mile time was 14.2

i was hoping i would get at least around 13.6 It seemed that when I nailed the react time i would miss a gear later or just loose traction.

i was using my street tires (205 40 17's)


oh and i later lowered my tire pressure.

i think my axles are going bad. im feeling/hearing a light clunk in my floorboard when i am accelerating lightly and letting of the gas.

anybody know what that is?

[jdg371]

does your car shake horrible at high speeds?

what did you get for 1/8? 60ft?

[easternpiro1]

does your car shake horrible at high speeds?

what did you get for 1/8? 60ft?

no it dosent seem to shake much at a high speed.

overall in the 60ft i was getting in the mid 2s (was REALLY babying it on the line) and in the 1/8 i was always in the mid to high 9s my best 1/8 was 9.4sec

by the way my first run was a 17

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Mar 18, 2007 - 8:46 PM

[jdg371]

Your first run would still beat auto STs!

Great run overall dude. 14.2 is pretty good since you haven't really drag raced much.. did better than my expectations [no offense...] I thought you would hit mid to hi 14s

[playr158]

umm 2nd gear spin is solved with proper throttle control, you have to ease into it and not floor it

put those 14s on that i gave you and run 26psi in air pressure should help with the launch

practice more is always important, overall not a bad start i run 14.3 with a 2.1 60' in the jetta on a good run so you still beat me doing crappy...JERK!

aim for a 2.1 or 2.2 60' time and you'll see massive overall ET's improve A LOT

[jdg371]

14s in the front with 17s in the back would help with launching. Making the rear stiff to prevent it from "poping"?

[easternpiro1]

sorry plyr. i was didnt get the chance to get the tires the store was closed by thetime i got there should have went to wally world lol

but aobut that noise? what could it be?

[Negative]

Awesome Piro! If you get some experience with the track and better tire/rim situation I know you'll be hitting your goal or better.
EDIT

This post has been edited by Negative: Mar 19, 2007 - 10:18 AM

[6gc_driven]

so just for self reference..with the proper launch, he should be running mid 13's..am i right when i say that?? please correct me if im wrong..

[lagos]

okay im back! I did HORRIBLE on my first try. it was bad. I thought my clutch went out on me after i tried to launch off the start. i was told i had white smoke coming out of the back (BOTH have never happened before) i cant begin to know what happened with that.


then I finally got better at my reaction time (my best was a .14something) and my best quarter mile time was 14.2

i was hoping i would get at least around 13.6 It seemed that when I nailed the react time i would miss a gear later or just loose traction.

i was using my street tires (205 40 17's)


oh and i later lowered my tire pressure.

i think my axles are going bad. im feeling/hearing a light clunk in my floorboard when i am accelerating lightly and letting of the gas.

anybody know what that is?

welcome to owning a 13 second car, but never being able to prove to anyone that you do! hahaha

[playr158]

its not a 13 second car if he can't drive it to 13 seconds.......

[lagos]

its not a 13 second car if he can't drive it to 13 seconds.......

right. but ask anyone who owns one and they will tell you that these cars are a lot faster on the street then what their 1/4 numbers show. 14.2 is probably what a stock WRX would do, yet we can take them out with no problem.

[playr158]

stock wrx is way slower then 14.2

but lol running around being like my car is faster then it says on the paper! doesn't help you at all....your only as fast as you can drive it street or strip....i've driven several 3sgte swapped celicas 5th and 6th gen including this car (piro) the car is no doubt capable of being faster then 14.2 BUT it isn't until actually proven....words don't mean anything without the proof..

just like making a 1500hp supra and saying this car can do 8.742 seconds in the 1/4 mile and top speed @ 215....well if every driver has only achieved a 9.16s 1/4....its only a 9.16s car.....making comments based on speculation isn't a sound comment or wise decision

oh and i would LOVE to see someone run a faster 1/4 on the street then on a prepped track..that make sense

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 20, 2007 - 11:34 PM

[zachattack15]

So why dont any of you guys who spend all this money on engine swaps buy slicks? Everyone has traction problems but no one buys slicks!

[celicaST]

oh and i would LOVE to see someone run a faster 1/4 on the street then on a prepped track..that make sense

you know what he means. hes talking about from a roll, which is what most "street racing" is

[lagos]

what i meant was... that prio has the HP for a mid 13s run. the real problem with the 3s swap is that its got way too much torque for a fwd setup. so you end up with poor results because of the traction problems.

hell, jeff did 13.9. its all about driver skill and tires.

ill give you a great example. local dyno owners have a 500hp del sol. he said they went to the track and ran in the 13s on street tires spinning in ever gear. yet on the street the car kills EVERYTHING . with a proper tire and suspension setup, it would probably be a 10sec car or close to it.

[playr158]

lol poor results from traction problems?

we're able to get 250+ whp Jettas and Golfs down the track pretty well....
SRT4 guys pwn you in torque and seam to do it pretty well too....
just have to learn how to launch and drive...and for god sakes get some drag radials at least....
i'm not saying that traction isn't a problem at all...but its not as big as you try and make it out to be...

you know what he means. hes talking about from a roll, which is what most "street racing" is

LOL yes please go tell someone you drive a 12 second car "from a 35mph roll on" stick to the context kiddo
and side note "most street racing" in the DC metro area and surrounding is from a DIG so i wouldn't try blanket comments

but this is getting off topic from the point of
"you can't say its a X second car if it hasn't been able to go X seconds so far"

racing on paper is for dummies

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 21, 2007 - 2:00 PM

[easternpiro1]

*sigh* maybe if i wasnt being a puss through 1st and 2nd gear i would have broke 13.8 but i dont think im going back to the track for a LONG time. i get the impression my car hates it there, and i dont think the track was prepped much.

i definately broke somethign though going to try to get under it tonight. its been overheating lately too idk why though...

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Mar 21, 2007 - 4:04 PM

[Negative]

Screw the 1/4 mile. That's not the only way to measure the worth of a sports car.

[undasighted]

it's all about the cuuuuuurves.

[lagos]

if this fwd car ....



did this... (right lane)



then why cant we.

[Negative]

Jeff wasn't that far off. Someone on here will hit it. How many of us have 300+ HP and post their times?

[playr158]

LOL jeff was a good bit off....

.4 seconds faster is a good amount of car lengths + mph...that takes a good bit more to get to from 13.9

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 21, 2007 - 7:49 PM

[illneversellmyce...]

also on every run but one piro had someone in the car, including me for one(which was fu##ing awesome) How much does 150-180 ext lbs affect, prob not that much, but yeah i thought he did well, only thing i saw was the traction, i cant wait to get mine on the track i'll have my swap done and complete by start summer or mid summer.

oh yeah piro won 4 races i know, mustang, crx, integra, damn maybe it was threee dont remember the last car

great start for your first time keep ya head up matt, got more balls then most people do with their cars

[MrBill]

lol poor results from traction problems?

SRT4 guys pwn you in torque and seam [dip****, its seem] to do it pretty well too....
just have to learn how to launch and drive...and for god sakes get some drag radials at least....
i'm not saying that traction isn't a problem at all...but its not as big as you try and make it out to be...

huh? The "claimed" srt-4 1/4mile time is 13.50 with slicks, ive never personally seen a stock srt-4 break a 13 without slicks on their cars. all fwd cars have traction issues. If you see none of those fast cars at the track are fwd, cause they blow asshole. Traction issues are issues in any car that makes over like 150hp (thats not your car)

So when is your celica gonna stop looking like the turd i rolled out of my ass last night?
And when is it actually going to be fast?
kthx

[Defgeph]

LOL jeff was a good bit off....

.4 seconds faster is a good amount of car lengths + mph...that takes a good bit more to get to from 13.9

Well Dan. Since you like to speak so much for me. If you look above at that time slip it states a trap speed of 102 MPH. I have trapped in my car 104 MPH while still running in the 14's. What you are to narrow minded to realize is that I ran my car at Island Dragway. With cheap tires and at only 12 psi.

Island dragway is a little hole in the wall track with no major sponsors. The Staging area in a mess, ruts, holes, uneven pavment. Not to mention they spray that track with VHT one time a year. We run there because we dont have to wait for 3,000 other cars to run.

The times at this track are much slower than if we would run at englishtown. I'm dieing to get some runs there. Without a doubt I'd hit 13's everytime on street tires. But time and other responsibilities are holding me back from running there. I am setting aside time this year to run there. If I can get my new tires it will be on street tires, if not then the slicks will come out.

Anyone that has actually ran at Island can chime in here on the conditions of the staging area.


To sum up, a number of different factors come into play when looking at a time slip. We will never take off as well as a RWD car. But we certainly can run in the 13's with our setups. With out any doubt in my mind. Dan you may have driven a swapped celi a couple of times, wait till you own one.

Please don't mention my name in your discussion. I can speak for myself.
Thanks

[playr158]

LOL jeff was a good bit off....

.4 seconds faster is a good amount of car lengths + mph...that takes a good bit more to get to from 13.9

What you are to narrow minded to realize is that I ran my car at Island Dragway. With cheap tires and at only 12 psi.

like i said it would take you a bit more....better tires, different track, more boost?!
whats your excuse going to be next time?.... and my point was that .4 sec on the other side of 14.0 is a considerable amount of time and track space....i don't give a **** about your car nor did i say anything about it mr panty bunch at least i gave u the credit of a 13.9

oh and MR. BIll
if you've never seen a SRT4 without slicks break into the 13s...how come i know a guy with an SRT4 who runs lower 13s on street tires?!

This post has been edited by playr158: Mar 22, 2007 - 8:40 AM

[lagos]

you friends srt4 is probably not stock.

[MrBill]

you friends srt4 is probably not stock.

took the words out of my mouth.

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