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post Apr 23, 2007 - 7:34 PM
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I bought a 90-93 accord intake like a couple people suggested on another post and i got it today....wasnt really what i was expecting..i thought it was 2 pipes but mine came in 1...so i took everything out of the box..they gave me the pipe the filter and all the clamps i needed...took out the old box..cut the pipe to fit..n these are the results:







dont know how much HP more its giving me... proably like 3-5...i do feel a nice difference though an she screams up stairs thumbsup.gif

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post Apr 23, 2007 - 9:00 PM
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post Apr 23, 2007 - 9:17 PM
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thanks man...took a little while to get everyhting situated but the end result wasnt too bad


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post Apr 24, 2007 - 8:45 AM
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what size piping is it?
post Apr 24, 2007 - 9:54 AM
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Where'd ya get it from?


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post Apr 24, 2007 - 9:32 PM
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QUOTE(DSToyo @ Apr 24, 2007 - 9:45 AM) [snapback]549951[/snapback]

what size piping is it?


it's 2.5" piping...make a big difference now that i have been driving it around..i hit like 4 grand and the vacume it creates is incrediable...jokingly i said it gave me about 1-2 HP but now that i have been drivin it it feels more like 5 or more...nice difference

QUOTE(FreddyTheOthaMeat @ Apr 24, 2007 - 10:54 AM) [snapback]549963[/snapback]

Where'd ya get it from?


ebay...30 friggin bucks...cant beat it...took me about an hour to instal and i had to cut the pipe to get it a perfect fit....im actually quite impressed

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...p;rd=1&rd=1


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post Apr 24, 2007 - 9:47 PM
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I have the EXACT same kit. But on a 2.2 L. Seems pretty good and well worth the cash, header next.


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post Apr 24, 2007 - 9:54 PM
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QUOTE(Agent21 @ Apr 24, 2007 - 10:47 PM) [snapback]550336[/snapback]

I have the EXACT same kit. But on a 2.2 L. Seems pretty good and well worth the cash, header next.


yep same here...buyin it off ebay..header to a high-flow cat...or maybe no cat at all to an HKS or borla exhaust..should help a little but dam* these things are slow...lol


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post Apr 25, 2007 - 12:20 AM
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not so sure that i would trust an ebay header, if it doesnt fit its a pain in the ass to send back if you even can send it back and to top it off you have to have some custom work done to even make the pipes long enough on most of the headers on ebay.


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post Apr 25, 2007 - 5:46 AM
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Nice find!

Maybe I'll get that one too, I've been looking for a CAI to be set up this summer.


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post Apr 25, 2007 - 1:04 PM
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QUOTE(mikeismad0408 @ Apr 25, 2007 - 1:20 AM) [snapback]550398[/snapback]

not so sure that i would trust an ebay header, if it doesnt fit its a pain in the ass to send back if you even can send it back and to top it off you have to have some custom work done to even make the pipes long enough on most of the headers on ebay.


im guessing you have had some bad experiences...or just heard it from some one else?? this is good to know because these were the 2 that i was considering on getting:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Real-Stainl...sspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Exhaust-Hea...sspagenameZWDVW


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post Apr 25, 2007 - 1:20 PM
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QUOTE(95st-celica @ Apr 25, 2007 - 1:04 PM) [snapback]550585[/snapback]

QUOTE(mikeismad0408 @ Apr 25, 2007 - 1:20 AM) [snapback]550398[/snapback]

not so sure that i would trust an ebay header, if it doesnt fit its a pain in the ass to send back if you even can send it back and to top it off you have to have some custom work done to even make the pipes long enough on most of the headers on ebay.


im guessing you have had some bad experiences...or just heard it from some one else?? this is good to know because these were the 2 that i was considering on getting:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Real-Stainl...sspagenameZWDVW

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Exhaust-Hea...sspagenameZWDVW



i have that header on my car, but i paid $70+$30 shipping. for me its a direct fit, for you guys follow the how-to. i feel like i gained ALOT of topend, lost a little lowend, but it totally changed the way the engines powerband feels. really screams from 3000 to 6000 now, for me. mine really is stainless, so i wrapped it and that helped to keep from cooking my hood and changed its sound a little, got the car to closed loop a little faster, gets the cat going a little quicker, and feels like it made a small difference in how the engine responds once its hot. thats probably due to a lower intake temp because i took alot of heat out of the engine bay.


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QUOTE(95st-celica @ Apr 24, 2007 - 12:34 AM) [snapback]549776[/snapback]

I bought a 90-93 accord intake like a couple people suggested on another post and i got it today....wasnt really what i was expecting..i thought it was 2 pipes but mine came in 1...so i took everything out of the box..they gave me the pipe the filter and all the clamps i needed...took out the old box..cut the pipe to fit..n these are the results:

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/cra...t=camaro028.jpg

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/cra...t=camaro029.jpg

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/cra...t=camaro030.jpg

dont know how much HP more its giving me... proably like 1-2 lol...i dont really feel a big difference but the sound is cool to listen to at least thumbsup.gif



hey did u have to take off the fender to install ur air filter there?


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post Apr 25, 2007 - 7:02 PM
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QUOTE(jdmart @ Apr 25, 2007 - 4:13 PM) [snapback]550644[/snapback]

QUOTE(95st-celica @ Apr 24, 2007 - 12:34 AM) [snapback]549776[/snapback]

I bought a 90-93 accord intake like a couple people suggested on another post and i got it today....wasnt really what i was expecting..i thought it was 2 pipes but mine came in 1...so i took everything out of the box..they gave me the pipe the filter and all the clamps i needed...took out the old box..cut the pipe to fit..n these are the results:

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/cra...t=camaro028.jpg

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/cra...t=camaro029.jpg

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s62/cra...t=camaro030.jpg

dont know how much HP more its giving me... proably like 1-2 lol...i dont really feel a big difference but the sound is cool to listen to at least thumbsup.gif



hey did u have to take off the fender to install ur air filter there?


nope....i jacked it up and took a little bit of the wheel well plastic out...just peeled it out a litte and theres a black air box that you have to take out too...once that is out and the air box under the hood is out you cut the pipe and stick the straight end with the slight curve up into the engine bay from underneath and then put the filter on...not really that difficult

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post Apr 25, 2007 - 10:28 PM
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I actually did it I guess the wrong way and have the long end in the engine bay and the short end sticking into the fender.


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post Apr 27, 2007 - 12:43 PM
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I bought a cold air intake for the 7afe celica off eBay and it didnt fit at all even after cutting it, now i have this weird set up where my filter is a little less than 2" from my headers, not good at all, SRI would have been a better choice...

Your set up looks hot tho, all you did was get a 90-93 accord intake and cut it? What is that third pic?

Thanks
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which kit did you get?


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a CAI from chromeintakes, POS
post Apr 27, 2007 - 1:47 PM
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I just followed his link up there to order one. I'll put up pics when I finish it.


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95st, you say you had to remove the wheel well plastic and you also say you bent it back. Did you just bend it or did you have to actually remove some plastic from the well permanently to get this to fit?

Nice work btw! smile.gif

good to know Redline. I was looking at those ChromeIntakes ones on ebay also. Sorry to hear it didn't work. : \

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Yea glad to help =/

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QUOTE(Redline08 @ Apr 27, 2007 - 5:43 PM) [snapback]551516[/snapback]

I bought a cold air intake for the 7afe celica off eBay and it didnt fit at all even after cutting it, now i have this weird set up where my filter is a little less than 2" from my headers, not good at all, SRI would have been a better choice...

Your set up looks hot tho, all you did was get a 90-93 accord intake and cut it? What is that third pic?

Thanks



Dunno how much it'll help, but why dont you get a heat shield from ebay to put on it the way it is? If I get my accord CAI soon and am able to fit it correctly I have a weapon R secret weapon (i think??) SRI I'll be selling.


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QUOTE(undasighted @ Apr 27, 2007 - 7:25 PM) [snapback]551582[/snapback]

QUOTE(Redline08 @ Apr 27, 2007 - 5:43 PM) [snapback]551516[/snapback]

I bought a cold air intake for the 7afe celica off eBay and it didnt fit at all even after cutting it, now i have this weird set up where my filter is a little less than 2" from my headers, not good at all, SRI would have been a better choice...

Your set up looks hot tho, all you did was get a 90-93 accord intake and cut it? What is that third pic?

Thanks



Dunno how much it'll help, but why dont you get a heat shield from ebay to put on it the way it is? If I get my accord CAI soon and am able to fit it correctly I have a weapon R secret weapon (i think??) SRI I'll be selling.



Its really not worth it, a heat shield would just be putting more money into a lost cause, you would have to see it to believe it... id much rather do this accord intake than fuss with chromeintakes ripoff,

Lemme know how the accord set up goes, pics and stuff thx
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I ordered one as well. Shipping to Canada jacks the price a bit, but $50 cdn is still damn good, and it will give me something to do when the weather clears up. smile.gif


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just double checking with ya, im probably going to get the same one you got...but anyway, the one you got from eautosource has 2.5" piping and fit with no problems. thanks
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QUOTE(Redline08 @ Apr 27, 2007 - 1:43 PM) [snapback]551516[/snapback]

I bought a cold air intake for the 7afe celica off eBay and it didnt fit at all even after cutting it, now i have this weird set up where my filter is a little less than 2" from my headers, not good at all, SRI would have been a better choice...

Your set up looks hot tho, all you did was get a 90-93 accord intake and cut it? What is that third pic?


Thanks


The third pic is the filter that comes out right next to the grill in my bumper...i can't explain how perfect it worked out...n it made such a difference...DO NOT get the "chromeintakes" off ebay...the one i got i had to cut once but if you cut it in the right spot it works out perfect...type in 1993 honda accord intake...and then go from there..when you say your filter is like 2" from you headers then you must be doing somethin wrong or got the complete wrong pipe...mine is about 2 feet away from my headers...your best bet is to take the extra time and stick it down where your orignal factory intake is...it works the best...you cut the pipe so you have an "S" shape and another pip thats like an 80 Degree angle...the s pipe goes onto the throtle body an the other one goes straight down along side the fender...shouldnt be too hard.

QUOTE(Redline08 @ Apr 27, 2007 - 2:43 PM) [snapback]551548[/snapback]

a CAI from chromeintakes, POS


Yea from what i hear they are ****...stay away from them

QUOTE(Sinyk @ Apr 27, 2007 - 2:50 PM) [snapback]551553[/snapback]

95st, you say you had to remove the wheel well plastic and you also say you bent it back. Did you just bend it or did you have to actually remove some plastic from the well permanently to get this to fit?

Nice work btw! smile.gif

good to know Redline. I was looking at those ChromeIntakes ones on ebay also. Sorry to hear it didn't work. : \


absoutly not..i only had to peel it back to get the intake in there...everyhitng went right back together once i was done...i just needed to peel it back so i could get the old box out...theres actually 2 one underneath the car and one in the engine bay...both need to come out...once you put everyhting in then you just take the wheel well plastic and bolt it back up...or in my case it was one nut and i had to slide it back into place


QUOTE(DSToyo @ Apr 28, 2007 - 7:39 PM) [snapback]551967[/snapback]

just double checking with ya, im probably going to get the same one you got...but anyway, the one you got from eautosource has 2.5" piping and fit with no problems. thanks


yea no problems and im pretty sure it's 2.5 pipeing...if you get the same exact one i got you'll have no problems if you do it the way i did it...not to mention you'll notice a huge difference....my car when i rev it from about 4k-6k sounds like the infinit's...they got that deep roar too them..its exactly what it sounds like....its pertty cool

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1991 VDUB jetta wolfsburg Ed. 5 speed (clutch)-junkyard
1988 Dodge Aries K (sold)
1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica
1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica
1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress
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QUOTE(95st-celica @ Apr 29, 2007 - 1:45 AM) [snapback]551987[/snapback]

QUOTE(Redline08 @ Apr 27, 2007 - 1:43 PM) [snapback]551516[/snapback]

I bought a cold air intake for the 7afe celica off eBay and it didnt fit at all even after cutting it, now i have this weird set up where my filter is a little less than 2" from my headers, not good at all, SRI would have been a better choice...

Your set up looks hot tho, all you did was get a 90-93 accord intake and cut it? What is that third pic?


Thanks


The third pic is the filter that comes out right next to the grill in my bumper...i can't explain how perfect it worked out...n it made such a difference...DO NOT get the "chromeintakes" off ebay...the one i got i had to cut once but if you cut it in the right spot it works out perfect...type in 1993 honda accord intake...and then go from there..when you say your filter is like 2" from you headers then you must be doing somethin wrong or got the complete wrong pipe...mine is about 2 feet away from my headers...your best bet is to take the extra time and stick it down where your orignal factory intake is...it works the best...you cut the pipe so you have an "S" shape and another pip thats like an 80 Degree angle...the s pipe goes onto the throtle body an the other one goes straight down along side the fender...shouldnt be too hard.

QUOTE(Redline08 @ Apr 27, 2007 - 2:43 PM) [snapback]551548[/snapback]

a CAI from chromeintakes, POS


Yea from what i hear they are ****...stay away from them

QUOTE(Sinyk @ Apr 27, 2007 - 2:50 PM) [snapback]551553[/snapback]

95st, you say you had to remove the wheel well plastic and you also say you bent it back. Did you just bend it or did you have to actually remove some plastic from the well permanently to get this to fit?

Nice work btw! smile.gif

good to know Redline. I was looking at those ChromeIntakes ones on ebay also. Sorry to hear it didn't work. : \


absoutly not..i only had to peel it back to get the intake in there...everyhitng went right back together once i was done...i just needed to peel it back so i could get the old box out...theres actually 2 one underneath the car and one in the engine bay...both need to come out...once you put everyhting in then you just take the wheel well plastic and bolt it back up...or in my case it was one nut and i had to slide it back into place


QUOTE(DSToyo @ Apr 28, 2007 - 7:39 PM) [snapback]551967[/snapback]

just double checking with ya, im probably going to get the same one you got...but anyway, the one you got from eautosource has 2.5" piping and fit with no problems. thanks


yea no problems and im pretty sure it's 2.5 pipeing...if you get the same exact one i got you'll have no problems if you do it the way i did it...not to mention you'll notice a huge difference....my car when i rev it from about 4k-6k sounds like the infinit's...they got that deep roar too them..its exactly what it sounds like....its pertty cool




Yea the chromintakes one was just an extension of a short ram basically, i followed the instructions and the whole 9 yards but in the end i had to cut it then step back and gaze, i was like wtf, i just put my old short ram on and its so0oo0oOO much better than chromeintakes, thanks for your help tho, ill be installing that accord one ASAP
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I got mine in the mail yesterday. Semi long shipping and he isn't very talkative, but aside from receiving the smallest PVC hose ever with an intake, it seems like it should work great.

I'm 99% sure it's 2.5 inch piping, so no relocating the fuse box, should just go right in with no rubbing.

The filter's cheap so I'm gonna replace it with mushroom filter if it'll fit.

I'll try to do a step by step with lines drawn on where I end up cutting it, as well as pictures of removing the stock airbox and removing wheel well plastic. Mine was sent as one piece as well, but at least they sent two couplers.


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lol, I just got mine yesterday too. It actually came in Monday, but I missed the delivery. My PCV hose was really short too so I just sleeved it over the existing one for now so that it will reach.

I got it installed last night as well. I ended up having to take probably 3-4 inches off of the downpipe where the filter connects to because it was way too long. I also had a hell of a time getting the box out from inside the fender because that one screw on top of the box is really hard to get at. I had to remove my fog light and use a little wrench to get it out.

The piping looked nice on the outside, but it was kinda rough on the inside, so i ground and sanded it smooth as best i could, especially in the bends I could reach. My pipe was also one solid piece with 2 couplers so cutting was necessary.

The filter you got is probably the same one I got, cheap plastic capped filter with what looks like a stainless mesh grille.

I think I will replace the filter as well because mine does press on the fender plastic a bit (if you look, you can see that it pushes the plastic out a little in one spot). I hope once my rims get here this week (?) that there will be no rubbing, I don't think the bulge is significant.

When I installed the pipe, I had to remove the fusebox, as I assume you will have to as well, but when I went to put the fusebox back in it's place, I could only get 2 of the screws to line up. The piping was causing the fuse box to sit slightly inward, so I was unable to attach the screw that goes through the side of the fuse box, but the one to the strut tower and the one to the bottom fit just fine.

My pipe also came with a U-shaped screw bracket welded to it, which i cut and filed down, because it pressed on the fusebox as well.

I also drilled a 3/4" hole for the grommet and the mass airflow sensor to go into on the underside of the pipe after the second bend in the S.

And yeah, the car roars around 4k rpm and it sounds cool. I'm not quite used to the hiss sound from the filter while the car is idling. Would a better filter (K&N, mushroom-style) reduce this strange sound? Would a better filter really help much at all?

It was a fun little project. Glad I could finally get my hands dirty! smile.gif I'll try to get a pic or 2 up with what I did.

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I currently have a Weapon R SRI on it that was supposedly built for my car but I had to put on backwards, and it hisses like crazy. Kinda sounds cool. I don't think so much that it's the filter that determines the noise, I'm pretty sure that's just the way they sound.

I was thinking about sanding down the inner piping as well, cause the outside is ok, but yeah the inside is pretty rough. Don't know how much of a difference it'll make, but any positive change will be better than none.

I'll see if I can find a way to run the piping so that I don't have to modify or remove the fuse box while I'm working on it. Ideally I don't want to touch it. If I can I'll put up some info and pics.

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i ordered mine a few days ago...waiting for the shipping- how long did it take to get to you guys? should be a pretty easy project once i get it smile.gif
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it was about two weeks. I never bother sellers on ebay to ask where my stuff is, but they usually either provide a tracking number or it's there before you even think about it again. I ended up sending this guy a message like... uhhhh... tracking... number?

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you guys know theres a how to for this intake in the stickies for what to do with the fuse box right?

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I tried to make the cut in a spot that would make the S-shaped piece roughly uniform on either end. The 3-4 inches i took off was on the straight end where the filter would connect to. I found that the coupler at the cut doesn't line up perfectly straight, but I think that's just because of the angle of the tubing. But it's not a radical bend or anything and the coupler hides it.

I used a drum sanding bit to smooth out the pipe as best I could plus some fine sand paper. I found most of the bends had slight ridges in the inner piping and I also smoothed the edges after I made my cuts.

I'm pretty sure my piping was 2.5 inches as well because it was a good fit through the hole into the fender and was easy to work with, but not loose enough to bang around.

Also, be careful working with the pipe. It marks up very easily.


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I've seen that, but it also says that if it is 2.5" piping you shouldnt need to modify the fuse box.


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so you still have to modify it, you cant just set it back in there?
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QUOTE(DSToyo @ May 9, 2007 - 11:48 AM) [snapback]555697[/snapback]

i ordered mine a few days ago...waiting for the shipping- how long did it take to get to you guys? should be a pretty easy project once i get it smile.gif


Mine took 10 days to arrive, and I'm in Canada. Purchased on Apr 27th and it was here May 7th. I never had a tracking number or anything.


Who needs a how-to! tongue.gif I didn't modify my fuse box at all, I'll take a pic later to show where mine sits now (at work right now). Only 2 of the 3 screws are connected but it's virtually in the same place. If i got a longer screw and some washers I'm sure I could reattach the fusebox on the side.

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^ thats good enough for me smile.gif
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I'm gonna hire a local hippy to take pictures the whole time I'm working on it.


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yea write up write up!!
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still trying to find a hippy. Gotta go down to the ledges or deeper into the suburbs.


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it loos great glad to c it worked out ok for the 7afe motor.

btw if u r guna run into large puddles get a bypass valve on there so u dont hydrolock.

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I highly doubt there will be sufficient enough rain here for the next couple of weeks. I'm gonna be ordering my bypass in the next week or so though.


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Looking at where mine is, I think I would have to submerge my front end to get enough water on the filter to cause problems. It's more enclosed also with the fog light in front of it.


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I got into an arguement with one of my mechanics a couple weeks ago that almost made me fire him.

He was convinced that regardless of a bypass valve the car would immediately hydrolock if it was raining hard enough or we hit a puddle. I would normally let him go on his rants but he had a kid there he was preaching to who just bought a fifth gen and seemed inspired by my plans to go ahead and put his all into his car. And he looked kinda down when Milo said a CAI was a bad idea anywhere but the track. Yeah, it may not be as safe as a SRI, but seriously the likelihood of even getting submerged that deep isnt very high. At least around here.


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BTW all, what size of box did the CAI arrive in? i have size restrictions for mail and i'm thinking about ordering one also. kindasad.gif


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it was pretty friggin big. i'd say maybe 4 feet long and about 2 wide.


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Mine was about 32"x12"x8" (guessing on the 32" because it fit perfect between my strut towers in my trunk). The pipe was wrapped in bubble wrap, the filter was in another small box and the rest was in a sealed plastic bag.

For rain to hydrolock and engine, wouldn't the rain have to almost directly be hitting the filter? I mean, it takes more than some spray or a couple drops to seize an engine doesn't it? They must have some amount of tolerance for water in the air, otherwise it would be dangerous to drive on a foggy day tongue.gif

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kinda where I went with that. he's a good mechanic with great attention to detail, and I'd rather he play it super safe than sorry.


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did you guys get the same one from eautosource on ebay?

as for the bypass valve...you probably wont need it, but its better to be safe than sorry, for example when you hydrolock and you have all those problems, your gonna wish youd spent the money for one.

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Yeah I got mine from eautosource.


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I'm still gonna be getting one. I just don't think I'm gonna need it in the next two weeks.


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Ok, I snapped a couple pics of the intake I installed.

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Close up of the filter provided.

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After it was installed.

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First S-shaped piece.

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Looking towards the fuse box.

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The Mass Air Flow Sensor installed on the underside.

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Clearance of the pipe under the fuse box.

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This is the picture with the missing screw on the fuse box. You can see the screw connected at the bottom, but you can clearly see the gap that is now present from the side of the car to the right side of the fuse box. It's very small and the fuse box doesn't rub on anything. In the 4th pic, you can see the other screw that attaches to the strut tower.

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does this intake come with a hole for the maf or do you have to drill one? basically, if i bought one, what would i have to do to make it work? just make one cut?

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The filter is located where the air box in the fender used to be. I had to remove most of the tire well panel to access the box to remove it. It's pretty well in the same location as the first post picture showed by 95ST_Celica except that i have a fog light in the bumper as well.

I can't take a pic of it without taking off the panels again kindasad.gif

I can't honestly say about the fittment on the ST, but the first post by 95ST_Celica showed pictures on the 1.8L engine and it looked just about the same.

On the pipe, I had to cut it into two pieces and i had to take about 3 inches of pipe off the end that's in the fender. As for what was stock in the car, i had to remove everything related to the intake including the airbox for the filter, the pipe to it the pipe into the fender and the airbox in the fender that connects to.


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is there a place for the maf sensor to plug into?
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No, you have to drill a hole. The stock hole is 3/4" if you want to put the grommet in as well


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**** is that necessary? what did you other guys do about the maf sensor?
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It's easy to drill and I think if you don't put it in, your check engine light will constantly be on.


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Aside from the check engine light, are there any other problems to not putting in the MAF?

I'm supposed to be installing this thing when I get out of work but I wont be able to drill the hole for the MAF till at the earliest the weekend.


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I have read many things about the MAF sensor and possible problems it can cause by not being there. "The MAF sensor is there to measure the volume of air drawn into the engine. It is used to determine the load on the engine. If the engine load isn't measured correctly, the car doesn't know how much fuel to inject, when to fire the cylinder or when to shift the transmission". (http://www.autoshop101.com/forms/h34.pdf)

Honestly, it sounds rather necessary and I wouldn't risk not having it installed IMO.


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truth. well, I gotta find a tool to cut the hole. what did you use? Also, did you have to put your celi on a jack and take the wheel off to take out the wheel well panel?


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I didn't have a hole saw so i had to improvise. First I wrapped the pipe in electrical tape where I was drilling, just incase the drill bit decided to wander (helps prevement scratching). Then I used a small drill bit to start the hole (like 1/8" or less) and then moved up to a 3/8" bit, which was the largest I could track down in my house. After that, I had to use a reamer type of drill bit to get the hole up to 5/8" and then just kept working the hole in a circle until it was close to 3/4". Then, I slipped the grommet that came on the stock air box in the hole, stuck the MAF sensor in, and done.

I jacked up the car just to give me some more room to play and had it blocked and propped up on triangle stands (rather be safe than sorry).

I left the wheel on, I found I had plenty of room to work in there. I unbolted about half of the wheel well plastic and just pulled it down so I could work in there. It's maybe 6 screws and a bit of pulling to get it off the car. I didn't remove the whole piece, I just left it resting on the wheel.


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My mom says she has a dremel. Would that be useful in this kind of situation? The only tools I'm used to using are screwdrivers, ratches, hammers, etc. Aka noob-tools.


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You shouldn't need a hammer to do this so you can scratch that tongue.gif

Screwdriver and ratchet are necessary. The dremel tool probably will work for you. I'm not sure if it will work for drilling the hole, but once you have a hole, if you have a grinding/sanding attachment for it, you should be able to fix up the hole/make it bigger and any rough edges you make from cutting the pipe easily.

Make sure you have a 10mm metric socket. and a Phillips-head screwdriver (+). You can probably cut the pipe with the dremel as well, but i used a hacksaw.

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QUOTE(DSToyo @ May 9, 2007 - 7:36 PM) [snapback]555767[/snapback]

as for the bypass valve...you probably wont need it, but its better to be safe than sorry, for example when you hydrolock and you have all those problems, your gonna wish youd spent the money for one.


x10 - take it from someone who's been there before. 4AM shooting water out my sparkplug holes and changing my oil on the side of the road in the middle of nowhere. Stupid tow truck driver mad.gif
That plus the almost no gain is why I'm sticking with SRI.

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Out of curiosity, where would one get a bypass valve that would work on these accord intakes?


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ebay.

search aem bypass valve. you need a 2.5".


Got mine installed. No MAF hole yet and no codes. When I get back to my place I'm gonna take the part that attaches to the throttle body out and drill it. Somehow while I had it jacked up though it raised the drivers side about an inch. So now when it's back on the ground it's just a little bit higher up on the drivers side. I dunno, but I'm too tired to try to figure it out tonight.


And I found no hippy, so I only got a couple of pictures.


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I just had my new rims installed yesterday and I think while backing out of my friends drive way, the front driver side tire rubbed where the air filter was pressing on the wheel well plastic lining. It was too dark to take a look, so I'm going to have to check later. Damn bigger wheel diameter mad.gif

If it's rubbing, I may have to shrink mine to an SRI instead kindasad.gif (I also don't really notice a gain at all, just a different sound, and it looks damn cool under the hood tongue.gif


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QUOTE(Sinyk @ May 11, 2007 - 10:29 AM) [snapback]556484[/snapback]

I just had my new rims installed yesterday and I think while backing out of my friends drive way, the front driver side tire rubbed where the air filter was pressing on the wheel well plastic lining. It was too dark to take a look, so I'm going to have to check later. Damn bigger wheel diameter mad.gif

If it's rubbing, I may have to shrink mine to an SRI instead kindasad.gif (I also don't really notice a gain at all, just a different sound, and it looks damn cool under the hood tongue.gif


The tire is probably rubbing on your filter. Mine was doing that for a long time and still does it when i turn my wheels to the left. but a fairly good fix is to go to pepboys or an equal type of store and they have plastic 90 degree elbows in 3" diameter. I just attached one of those to the end of the pipe and then put my filter facing toward the front of the car. Like i said it works good, there is no rubbing except for when i turn my wheels that one direction.


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I'll have to look into that. I'll take a better look at it either tonight or tomorrow (at work atm), but I'm pretty sure it did rub.


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mine doesnt rub. but I didnt cut off the end of the s pipe. just 3 inches off the end of the L. my filter is pointed in diagnaly. it does seem to be a bit of a difference even over the sri. not a whole lot, but enough that I'm happy with it. just gotta get my bypass valve.


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I didn't cut the pipe shorter on the S piece either, I cut it at the end where the filter connects and it still pushes out the wheel well liner. I tried to angle the filter slightly, but it doesn't have a lot of give to it and still rests against the plastic.


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hmm... I wonder if mine doesnt do it just cause it's angled. Maybe one of those long but thin K&N filters would be your best bet. These filters are garbage anyway.


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QUOTE(Sinyk @ May 10, 2007 - 12:13 PM) [snapback]556165[/snapback]

I didn't have a hole saw so i had to improvise. First I wrapped the pipe in electrical tape where I was drilling, just incase the drill bit decided to wander (helps prevement scratching). Then I used a small drill bit to start the hole (like 1/8" or less) and then moved up to a 3/8" bit, which was the largest I could track down in my house. After that, I had to use a reamer type of drill bit to get the hole up to 5/8" and then just kept working the hole in a circle until it was close to 3/4". Then, I slipped the grommet that came on the stock air box in the hole, stuck the MAF sensor in, and done.

I jacked up the car just to give me some more room to play and had it blocked and propped up on triangle stands (rather be safe than sorry).

I left the wheel on, I found I had plenty of room to work in there. I unbolted about half of the wheel well plastic and just pulled it down so I could work in there. It's maybe 6 screws and a bit of pulling to get it off the car. I didn't remove the whole piece, I just left it resting on the wheel.

just for future refrence, the sensor in your intake piping is an Intake Air Temp sensor. (or IAT sensor for short)
our cars do not have a "Mass Airflow Sensor" the 3sgte does, commonly known as the AFM


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Good to know.

Upon further investigation, I don't think my tire rubbed. I think I had a rock in my brakes and it made a groaning sound (at least that's all i can think it could be?)

I tested out my car maxing out my turning radius in both directions and had no problems.


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QUOTE(presure2 @ May 12, 2007 - 6:42 PM) [snapback]556862[/snapback]

QUOTE(Sinyk @ May 10, 2007 - 12:13 PM) [snapback]556165[/snapback]

I didn't have a hole saw so i had to improvise. First I wrapped the pipe in electrical tape where I was drilling, just incase the drill bit decided to wander (helps prevement scratching). Then I used a small drill bit to start the hole (like 1/8" or less) and then moved up to a 3/8" bit, which was the largest I could track down in my house. After that, I had to use a reamer type of drill bit to get the hole up to 5/8" and then just kept working the hole in a circle until it was close to 3/4". Then, I slipped the grommet that came on the stock air box in the hole, stuck the MAF sensor in, and done.

I jacked up the car just to give me some more room to play and had it blocked and propped up on triangle stands (rather be safe than sorry).

I left the wheel on, I found I had plenty of room to work in there. I unbolted about half of the wheel well plastic and just pulled it down so I could work in there. It's maybe 6 screws and a bit of pulling to get it off the car. I didn't remove the whole piece, I just left it resting on the wheel.

just for future refrence, the sensor in your intake piping is an Intake Air Temp sensor. (or IAT sensor for short)
our cars do not have a "Mass Airflow Sensor" the 3sgte does, commonly known as the AFM


I was gonna say that but I figured w/e - they'll figure it out eventually. laugh.gif


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derp.

lol.



I'm still learning. This is my first project and I'd never done more than install an SRI before this car.


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QUOTE(undasighted @ May 9, 2007 - 3:45 PM) [snapback]555769[/snapback]

Yeah I got mine from eautosource.

Do they have a phone number?

i sent my payment and they confirmed it on may 6, i emailed them yesterday and they replied today with the DHL tracking no. i looked it up and i think its saying that its still in cali??? i guess i'll send them another email, but i would like to talk to someone over there.
Way yours sent through DHL? How long did it take to get to you, from the time you sent the payment?

Thank you, i dont know if it should be here or not (it should tho, right)
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stock medium cai is the best


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post May 18, 2007 - 2:57 PM
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It took about two weeks or so to get here. It said it was taking forever then too.


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post May 18, 2007 - 3:19 PM
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Mine was shipped DHL from eautosource.

You get yours installed yet? (Turns out the rubbing i had was my passenger tire on the back side of the wheel well when the wheel is maxed and it's so minor it's hardly noticeable).


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post May 18, 2007 - 4:12 PM
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ebay is your best bet for gettin these intakes...35 shipped maybe?? i mean its really cheap..there no drilling holes for the maf and it works great..only thing you really have to do is cut the tube where the S bend is so that it will fit under the fuse box...noooo need to reloacte it what so ever..mine fit perfectly...mine also had the whole pre-drilled for the MAF....if anyone has any other questions or pictures just let me know and ill see what i can do...took me about 30 minutes to put it in


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post May 18, 2007 - 4:26 PM
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So isn't it kind of a pain to get the filter out and in to clean from that location?


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post May 18, 2007 - 4:29 PM
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so it took 2 weeks from the time you sent the payment...i guess i'll wait a few more days frown.gif
post May 18, 2007 - 4:55 PM
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I sent him an angry message the day before I got it like "seriously, I havent heard from you at all. Please send me a tracking number."

the next day i went to check the tracking number from work and it had been delivered.

mine didnt have the air temp sensor hole predrilled. I still havent put it in even. Just got my bypass filter yesterday. Dont know if it's the right size though now that I look at it. Might be too small. I bought a 2.5" bypass valve for the 2.5" piping. Prolly shoulda gotten 2.75"


The intake has been installed and I didnt notice a big difference at first but I def do now. Also, those couplers they sent with the piping suck. Tighten em up till your hand hurts from trying to turn the screws, then do it some more. And check back on em for at least a week. It sounded wierd when I revved the other day so I popped my hood and the intake had come unattached from the manifold.


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post May 18, 2007 - 9:18 PM
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QUOTE(GTS13 @ May 18, 2007 - 5:26 PM) [snapback]559341[/snapback]

So isn't it kind of a pain to get the filter out and in to clean from that location?


i havent had to clean it yet...these larger cone filters really dont need to be cleaned that often...maybe once every 2 months...thats when i do mine but it hasnt been 2 months since i installed it so i wouldnt really worry about it..but to answer your question..no its not that hard...jack it up a little and go under the car..shouldnt be too difficult


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post May 20, 2007 - 8:15 PM
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could this fit a GT?


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could this fit a GT?


yep
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QUOTE(undasighted @ May 18, 2007 - 5:55 PM) [snapback]559349[/snapback]

I sent him an angry message the day before I got it like "seriously, I havent heard from you at all. Please send me a tracking number."

the next day i went to check the tracking number from work and it had been delivered.

mine didnt have the air temp sensor hole predrilled. I still havent put it in even. Just got my bypass filter yesterday. Dont know if it's the right size though now that I look at it. Might be too small. I bought a 2.5" bypass valve for the 2.5" piping. Prolly shoulda gotten 2.75"


The intake has been installed and I didnt notice a big difference at first but I def do now. Also, those couplers they sent with the piping suck. Tighten em up till your hand hurts from trying to turn the screws, then do it some more. And check back on em for at least a week. It sounded wierd when I revved the other day so I popped my hood and the intake had come unattached from the manifold.


yea...im tellin you guys your best bet is to go with the 90-93 accord intake off ebay..couldnt be more pleased


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1988 Dodge Aries K (sold)
1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica
1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica
1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress
1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale
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post May 21, 2007 - 4:24 PM
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I'm happy with it. I still have been too lazy to put on the bypass filter.


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QUOTE(undasighted @ May 21, 2007 - 5:24 PM) [snapback]560117[/snapback]

I'm happy with it. I still have been too lazy to put on the bypass filter.


i wouldnt even worry about it...if its in the same post as mine you dont even really need it....i dont have one and its more restriction on the air flow...if its behind the plastic it should be all good thumbsup.gif


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1969 Chevy El camino - Traded for celica
1991 Dodge Daytona-Traded for Celica
1988 Chevy Camaro-Work in Progress
1989 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 - For Sale
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post May 22, 2007 - 6:30 AM
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mine finally came in yesterday, and its not quite like yours, its still 2.5", but its 2 pieces, its polished and the filter actually looks decent!. my only problem is the two connections on the "S" pipe...one of them is broken (the little one) kindasad.gif i cant see any pics right now but do i need that connection anyway?
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just cap that sucka off. lol.

I wouldn't listen to me.


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post May 22, 2007 - 8:49 AM
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^do you need it?, i got two hose connections and the little one is broken, i think you only need one however.

what hose do you connect anyway?

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You only need the one, the bigger one. It connects to the hose coming out of the side of your valve cover.


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I couldn't find a hose coming out of my valve cover. I found a capped port on the back on the air intake manifold, but nothing on the side of the valve cover. I ended up throwing a breather on it and havent had any issues, but I'd like it to be correct. could you get a picture of exactly where the port is on the VC for my car-illiterate arse?


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I don't have one because I installed mine on a GT, but you can somewhat see the hose in the second picture of the first post in this thread. Not sure where it's going to. You should have had a hose similar to what you are trying to install attached to your stock airbox.


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QUOTE(Sinyk @ May 22, 2007 - 2:45 PM) [snapback]560475[/snapback]

You only need the one, the bigger one. It connects to the hose coming out of the side of your valve cover.

thank you that sounds like good news!

QUOTE(Sinyk @ May 22, 2007 - 2:49 PM) [snapback]560478[/snapback]

I don't have one because I installed mine on a GT, but you can somewhat see the hose in the second picture of the first post in this thread. Not sure where it's going to. You should have had a hose similar to what you are trying to install attached to your stock airbox.

you dont have the pic or you dont have the hose?...hook me up with a pic if you got one of the hose (gt) (i havn't started on putting it in but id like to know)

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I'd link you to the one I already posted on page 3 of this thread, but it appears imageshack is busy taking a dump. I can't get it to show any of my pics when I click on the links kindasad.gif


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