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post May 27, 2007 - 2:32 AM
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hell yeah it was a great fight, Chuck is overrated!! go head i know u guys r gonna take some shots at me for that!! but oh well Chuck was a paper champ.


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post May 27, 2007 - 4:55 AM
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I didin get to watch so did rampage beat him again?


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post May 27, 2007 - 5:26 AM
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QUOTE(illneversellmycelli @ May 27, 2007 - 9:55 AM) [snapback]561987[/snapback]

I didin get to watch so did rampage beat him again?


yeah he sure did in the first round, in under 2 min!!! one punch put him on his keester and then he finished him off.


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post May 27, 2007 - 11:39 AM
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i didnt watch it but thats always good to hear thumbsup.gif


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post May 27, 2007 - 2:29 PM
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what a joke, i didin care who wins but its typical, almost everytime a fight is hyped it sucks lol


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post May 27, 2007 - 3:18 PM
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QUOTE(illneversellmycelli @ May 27, 2007 - 7:29 PM) [snapback]562074[/snapback]

what a joke, i didin care who wins but its typical, almost everytime a fight is hyped it sucks lol


yeah it was built up pretty big, it was even shown on ESPN!


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post May 27, 2007 - 3:44 PM
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Yea the fight was quick but dam that blow looked like it hurt! frown.gif his whole body went limp! then on the floor he couldnt even defend himself. The ref had to push Rampage off of him.



Some of the fights before the main event were pretty sick though.

post May 27, 2007 - 4:34 PM
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Rampage all the way, i was rooting for a nice fight that would have lasted longer but quick KO's happen. The fight wasn't great at all (imho), liddel went down with a light punch in the perfect place. The other fights earlier in the evening were better, but it was def a nice upset.


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post May 28, 2007 - 5:29 PM
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wish liddell would have won, but rampage held it down and got a nice punch in... all i kno is its all over if fedor comes to the ufc
post May 28, 2007 - 7:43 PM
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QUOTE(SlickRick @ May 27, 2007 - 3:32 AM) [snapback]561975[/snapback]

hell yeah it was a great fight, Chuck is overrated!! go head i know u guys r gonna take some shots at me for that!! but oh well Chuck was a paper champ.


laugh.gif laugh.gif are you f*cking kidding me? please explain to me why you feel this way... Because every fight that ive seen Chuck in, is a great fight and by NO means is he overrated. If youve seen all of his fights from day one, then you know that he's is hands down one of the best fighters there ever was and will ever be. I can name MANY fights where he just showed total domination.


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QUOTE(eggman40 @ May 27, 2007 - 8:44 PM) [snapback]562082[/snapback]


Some of the fights before the main event were pretty sick though.


Yeah the karo parysian fight was off the hook...they way he flipped the dude was awesome. The other fight with jardine was cool too.

The only thing that sucked about the liddell fight was how short it was, i wanted to see these guys go at it for all five rounds!
post May 28, 2007 - 10:46 PM
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QUOTE(jcaron9gt4 @ May 29, 2007 - 12:43 AM) [snapback]562385[/snapback]

QUOTE(SlickRick @ May 27, 2007 - 3:32 AM) [snapback]561975[/snapback]

hell yeah it was a great fight, Chuck is overrated!! go head i know u guys r gonna take some shots at me for that!! but oh well Chuck was a paper champ.


laugh.gif laugh.gif are you f*cking kidding me? please explain to me why you feel this way... Because every fight that ive seen Chuck in, is a great fight and by NO means is he overrated. If youve seen all of his fights from day one, then you know that he's is hands down one of the best fighters there ever was and will ever be. I can name MANY fights where he just showed total domination.


well Chuck never fought any1 good but Randy. i mean if Chuck was the greatset of all time and Rampage annihilated him, what does that make Ramoage? i seen all chucks fights, he is one dimensional, i mean he has a great sprawl but he finally went against a good wrestler AND a powerful striker. I know chuck started as a wrestler, but he is all striking now.


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post May 29, 2007 - 1:08 PM
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QUOTE(SlickRick @ May 29, 2007 - 3:46 AM) [snapback]562447[/snapback]

QUOTE(jcaron9gt4 @ May 29, 2007 - 12:43 AM) [snapback]562385[/snapback]

QUOTE(SlickRick @ May 27, 2007 - 3:32 AM) [snapback]561975[/snapback]

hell yeah it was a great fight, Chuck is overrated!! go head i know u guys r gonna take some shots at me for that!! but oh well Chuck was a paper champ.


laugh.gif laugh.gif are you f*cking kidding me? please explain to me why you feel this way... Because every fight that ive seen Chuck in, is a great fight and by NO means is he overrated. If youve seen all of his fights from day one, then you know that he's is hands down one of the best fighters there ever was and will ever be. I can name MANY fights where he just showed total domination.


well Chuck never fought any1 good but Randy. i mean if Chuck was the greatset of all time and Rampage annihilated him, what does that make Ramoage? i seen all chucks fights, he is one dimensional, i mean he has a great sprawl but he finally went against a good wrestler AND a powerful striker. I know chuck started as a wrestler, but he is all striking now.

i have been through a training camp with chuck lidell. i dont like the guy but he is very talented. he strike because thats what he is good at. he has an arsenal of submissions too. dont get me worng quinton is probably the best 205lb around. when i was training with team punsihment rampage went harder then anybody else. much repect for both fighters.
post May 29, 2007 - 1:13 PM
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oh yeah i also forgot, chuck has fought tito ortiz. he is probably THE TOUGHEST GUY around. alot of people dont know what goes on behin a fighters doors. dana white is a self centered jackass. tito vs chuck part one had some messed up things going on in the training rooms. and another thing, dont judge fighters and their talents unless you are a fighter and know what it takes to be in the sport.
post May 29, 2007 - 5:26 PM
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QUOTE(SlickRick @ May 28, 2007 - 11:46 PM) [snapback]562447[/snapback]

QUOTE(jcaron9gt4 @ May 29, 2007 - 12:43 AM) [snapback]562385[/snapback]

QUOTE(SlickRick @ May 27, 2007 - 3:32 AM) [snapback]561975[/snapback]

hell yeah it was a great fight, Chuck is overrated!! go head i know u guys r gonna take some shots at me for that!! but oh well Chuck was a paper champ.


laugh.gif laugh.gif are you f*cking kidding me? please explain to me why you feel this way... Because every fight that ive seen Chuck in, is a great fight and by NO means is he overrated. If youve seen all of his fights from day one, then you know that he's is hands down one of the best fighters there ever was and will ever be. I can name MANY fights where he just showed total domination.


well Chuck never fought any1 good but Randy. i mean if Chuck was the greatset of all time and Rampage annihilated him, what does that make Ramoage? i seen all chucks fights, he is one dimensional, i mean he has a great sprawl but he finally went against a good wrestler AND a powerful striker. I know chuck started as a wrestler, but he is all striking now.


never fought anybody good? he's beatin tito, randy couture(twice), vernon white, vitor belfort. just to name a few. And those right there are some of the best in the sport.


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QUOTE(purepunishment @ May 29, 2007 - 6:13 PM) [snapback]562652[/snapback]

oh yeah i also forgot, chuck has fought tito ortiz. he is probably THE TOUGHEST GUY around. alot of people dont know what goes on behin a fighters doors. dana white is a self centered jackass. tito vs chuck part one had some messed up things going on in the training rooms. and another thing, dont judge fighters and their talents unless you are a fighter and know what it takes to be in the sport.


dont judge them inless i know what they go through? i have been a wrestler for 7 years, so i know what its like. I mean just bcuz u were in the same gym as some MMA guys dont mean u know whats its all about. I mean i am sure u have worked hard and trian hard. but wrestling and MMA were my entire life for 7 years. I mean honestly it seems like people r just starting to like UFC type stuff bcuz they think its cool or glamourous to be a part of, but I have seen and been living that grueling life since i was 16. U seem to base your knowledge on who you know or have met, and not what u have done.


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post May 30, 2007 - 4:24 AM
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^ then you should know that Hoyce Gracie could beat all these guys wink.gif


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post May 30, 2007 - 4:14 PM
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Im just starting to get into this stuff. Kinda fun to watch. Id love to get into fighting myself -- more so boxing then UFC type but parents wont allow it lol.

Missed the fight on Saturday cuz I was on vacation and no bar near my boy and I had the fight on

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post Jun 1, 2007 - 12:53 PM
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the ufc bought another brand called the World extreme cage fighting. my friend razor Rob McCullough is the light weight champ over there. they are debuting on the versus channel. check your local listing.
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QUOTE(jcaron9gt4 @ May 30, 2007 - 4:24 AM) [snapback]562899[/snapback]

^ then you should know that Hoyce Gracie could beat all these guys wink.gif

i did gracie ju jitsu for a year and half. hoyce himself will tell you that he isnt the fighter he used to be. he is a better teacher now and a fighter. i will agree the hoyce ruled in his time in the ufc begining.
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QUOTE(jcaron9gt4 @ May 30, 2007 - 5:24 AM) [snapback]562899[/snapback]

^ then you should know that Hoyce Gracie could beat all these guys wink.gif


Didn't Matt Hughes OWN Gracie?
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QUOTE(massbrandon @ Jun 3, 2007 - 4:11 PM) [snapback]564426[/snapback]

QUOTE(jcaron9gt4 @ May 30, 2007 - 5:24 AM) [snapback]562899[/snapback]

^ then you should know that Hoyce Gracie could beat all these guys wink.gif


Didn't Matt Hughes OWN Gracie?


but Gracie is old now, i mean he is past his prime. matt was at his peak when they fought, but yeah he did beat him.


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post Jun 4, 2007 - 2:47 AM
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The fight was alright. I wish it would have gone on longer, but when you have two of the best strikers in the light heavyweight division in the ring together than things like that will happen. The fight ended how I figured it would but not how I wanted it to....for financial reasons.

I will agree with a few of you in saying that Liddell is a talented fighter, and does really have a much broader skill set than just stand up striking. However, saying that he is the best fighter ever is a little extreme IMO. You have to figure in that for the last 3 years he has been at the top of his game but could he have beaten a younger Couture, a Ken Shamrock in his prime, Hoyce Gracie in the first UFC. Can he hang with the Fedor and Alexsander Emelianenko's in Pride FC. Granted they are in the heavyweight division as Couture is now but there is so much talent o9ut there now that to say he is the best now and the best there ever was seems a little to much for me.

Quinton Jackson is a talented fighter and hopefully in his next fight against Dan Henderson we will get to see him display those sick ass ju-jitsu skills he has, of course Henderson isn't to shabby himself on the ground with his wrestling prowess. Should be another good match-up.

Just my $0.02

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Dan henderson has a lot of hype behind him. in pride there isnt a real great middle weight class. he fights at 185lbs. he is a quick guy with great hands but he isnt good in the defense area. if quinton comes out and gets in his face it will be quinton. quinton is starting his training for this fight in about 5 weeks. i am trying to go up for his for a couple of days to train with the guys in big bear.

Oh and watch the ufc on july 7. tito is training big time for this fight. last time i heard from my buddies in huntington beach they said tito is back to his balls to the walls trainging. he hasnt see jenna in like 6weeks. rashad evans just doesnt stand a chance.
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thats what they said about Tito's fight with Liddell and he get his ass handed to him. If you ask me Tito is a lot of hype these days, who knows what happened to the Tito of days gone by but I have a feeling that if Evans can keep it standing up Tito won't win. If it goes to the ground than he will have a better chance at pulling out a victory.
post Jun 4, 2007 - 10:55 AM
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IMO...

Tito can't fight strong standup knock-out type fighters. They render him scared. Granted he did beat wanderlei silva back in the day... but that was before wanderlei became a freakin machine winning like 15-16 straight. AND... chuck isn't overrated. He's just old. The guy is like almost 40 years old (37 i think). He just got caught with a single good punch. It happens. Watch Liddell versus Guy Mezger and you'll see what sort of fighter he really is. As for rampage... he's young and in his prime. His early losses were decisions to good tactical wrestlers, ala Sakuraba. His more recent losses were to the best light heavyweights in MMA... Shogun and Wanderlei.

I'd still love to see Liddell versus Wanderlei Silva...


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QUOTE(basementdweller @ Jun 4, 2007 - 7:47 AM) [snapback]564633[/snapback]

Can he hang with the Fedor and Alexsander Emelianenko's in Pride FC. Granted they are in the heavyweight division as Couture is now but there is so much talent o9ut there now that to say he is the best now and the best there ever was seems a little to much for me.

Aleksander and Fedor are both too big. I don't think ANYONE can hang with Fedor right now. They guy is too good all-around. He's a fricken beast.


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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jun 4, 2007 - 4:49 PM) [snapback]564888[/snapback]

IMO...

Tito can't fight strong standup knock-out type fighters. They render him scared. Granted he did beat wanderlei silva back in the day... but that was before wanderlei became a freakin machine winning like 15-16 straight. AND... chuck isn't overrated. He's just old. The guy is like almost 40 years old (37 i think). He just got caught with a single good punch. It happens. Watch Liddell versus Guy Mezger and you'll see what sort of fighter he really is. As for rampage... he's young and in his prime. His early losses were decisions to good tactical wrestlers, ala Sakuraba. His more recent losses were to the best light heavyweights in MMA... Shogun and Wanderlei.

I'd still love to see Liddell versus Wanderlei Silva...


i will admit that tito doesnt have the stongest chin. i will give you that. BUT.... his kick boxing is is getting extremely crisp and strong. Rashad is a wreslter. i dont take anything from him. but he is going to go against the BEST ground and pound guy around. there has only been one guy to dominate tito on the ground and that was randy courture. randy is unstopable on the ground. Oh and please dont play the age card for chuck. chuck is in his best shape of his life. he will even say that.
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QUOTE(Kwanza26 @ Jun 4, 2007 - 4:55 PM) [snapback]564894[/snapback]

QUOTE(basementdweller @ Jun 4, 2007 - 7:47 AM) [snapback]564633[/snapback]

Can he hang with the Fedor and Alexsander Emelianenko's in Pride FC. Granted they are in the heavyweight division as Couture is now but there is so much talent o9ut there now that to say he is the best now and the best there ever was seems a little to much for me.

Aleksander and Fedor are both too big. I don't think ANYONE can hang with Fedor right now. They guy is too good all-around. He's a fricken beast.


now on to fedor. he is a great fighter but put him against gabriel gonzonga or randy courture and you will see him crumble. fedor depends alot on his brut strength to get him where he wants to be. you also have to remember that the ufc has alot unorthodox fighters. thats another thing fedor isnt used to. i bet you within the next 12mnths you will see fedor in the ufc. dana white said he is determined to get him.

did anybody watch the WEC event on sunday?
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All I have to say about the Ortiz vs. Evans fight is I am putting my money on Rashad simply for the fact that he is newer in UFC and has a little more to prove still.

No I didn't get to watch the WEC on sunday cause I was to busy hanging out with my awesome girlfriend *wink wink*
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QUOTE(basementdweller @ Jun 5, 2007 - 8:02 PM) [snapback]565384[/snapback]

All I have to say about the Ortiz vs. Evans fight is I am putting my money on Rashad simply for the fact that he is newer in UFC and has a little more to prove still.

No I didn't get to watch the WEC on sunday cause I was to busy hanging out with my awesome girlfriend *wink wink*



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the WEC is on the versus channel again. my friend razor rob is defending hid title tonight.
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Thats on tonight? hmmm babe (aka basementdweller) its on channel 34 here in my city. Looks like ur city doesnt have Versus. Reason # 3554 why you should come out here tonight :-)

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Congrats to Rob McCullough as he successfully defended his title tonight against Kit Cope. It is unfortunate that Kit got injured that badly but it is all part of the sport right.

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