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[wannabealilfaste...]

hey guys im new here obviously and i have been on these forums as well as many others researching FI for my 99 Celi GT So far its only been a headache. I have recently bought my car more out of looks then researching the engine first so when i bought it it was in my mind going to be more of a hobby for me considering ive never owned a tuner type car before my previous car being a 95 Lincoln town car.To my enormous displeasure ive found that most turbo kits and even possibly the only supercharger to come out for the 5sfe engine are no longer in circulation ive seriously been considering nitrous oxide lately or even an electric supercharger but the overall response on these forums has been a resounding "not a good idea" i eventually want to get another car but seeing as how this is my daily driver and i do like to go to the track at the race legal program they have here i know that if im to participate and actually be successful im going to have to seriously do something.So my question is to you my fellow 6g owners where can i get a full turbo kit for my car fuel pump injectors and everything...or a supercharger which i know must be a near impossibility and lastly should i just leave nitrous oxide out of the question completely? I really don't have the resources or time to hunt down all the parts and build the kit myself nor can i simply do an engine swap i need my car and i don't have the downtime but a weekend on installing a turbo kit don't sound to bad Oh and on top of that my car is an automatic i know thats bad but is there any hope for me at all???? any help would be greatly appreciated thanks

[95CelicaST]

There aren't any bolt-on turbo kits for the Celica. Every single 5S-FTE guy (with the exception of one or two) put a turbo kit together themself.

Look up presure2 and look at his profile. Inside is a list of basically every component in his turbo kit.

[wannabealilfaste...]

There aren't any bolt-on turbo kits for the Celica. Every single 5S-FTE guy (with the exception of one or two) put a turbo kit together themself.

Look up presure2 and look at his profile. Inside is a list of basically every component in his turbo kit.

hmm i see would it be possible if at a later time someone could collect these parts and i could purchase a whole "custom" kit from them for a bit higher then what they payed for the whole thing?

[95CelicaST]

I don't think someone is going to do that without the money up front... because what happens when someone spends the 1700-ish dollars and you flake out?

[99GT]

Motor Swap

[95CelicaST]

Motor Swap

I really don't have the resources or time to hunt down all the parts and build the kit myself nor can i simply do an engine swap i need my car andi don't have the downtime but a weekend on installing a turbo kit don't sound to bad Oh and on top of that my car is an automatic i know thats bad but is there any hope for me at all???? any help would be greatly appreciated thanks

[1bwilson]

Gather your parts and learn the install intimatly. I spent well over a year reading about the install and then another year+ ordering parts and preparing. You can easly do the install over a weekend if you take the time to iron out the details ahead of time. Ive spent the past month+ under my car working on my kit and making sure everything was placed as best as possible. If I had tried I could have done 1 project at a time and kept the car driveable over the course of that month with the final install of the turbo.

Installing a turbo doesnt require "alot" of work. Its simply swaping a exhaust manifold for a turbo+manifold+DP with the oil and coolent lines already set, swaping the oil pan, taping for coolent and oil lines, relocating your oil filter, installing and running IC piping and swapping in larger injectors and 2 bar map. 3/4 of the work if fitment testing and prep work with alot of puting things on and taking them back off anyway.

[wannabealilfaste...]

Gather your parts and learn the install intimatly. I spent well over a year reading about the install and then another year+ ordering parts and preparing. You can easly do the install over a weekend if you take the time to iron out the details ahead of time. Ive spent the past month+ under my car working on my kit and making sure everything was placed as best as possible. If I had tried I could have done 1 project at a time and kept the car driveable over the course of that month with the final install of the turbo.

Installing a turbo doesnt require "alot" of work. Its simply swaping a exhaust manifold for a turbo+manifold+DP with the oil and coolent lines already set, swaping the oil pan, taping for coolent and oil lines, relocating your oil filter, installing and running IC piping and swapping in larger injectors and 2 bar map. 3/4 of the work if fitment testing and prep work with alot of puting things on and taking them back off anyway.

that sounds like a really good idea we have a store over here called elite image and i asked them could the hunt the parts out and do the install for me and i started naming things i needed like the fuel pump the oil pan supra fuel injectors and he said yeah no prob and they could do the install too and that they had just gotten done doing the 3s swap into a camry now my question to you guys is it will definitly most likely cost more money than for me to collect the parts on my own but is this for the money really a "worth it" mod it would be nice to have the only turbo celi at the track but for that money should i get another car? because i know the HP gain cant be that great

[1bwilson]

A 5sfTe is a totaly different thing, something you have to see/feel to understand. Youll double your stock hp #'s you put to the wheels. There is alot of work involved into being ready for buying parts and installing them. I see you joined today but Im not sure how long youve been reading the boards. Id recomend reading, alot! There are tons of very recent posts about the 5sfTe you can read over and learn sooooo very much about the settup and how its evolved from my first post to what it is today.

[wannabealilfaste...]

yeah i actually became discouraged sometime back after exausting all resources while learining about the 5sfe and its primary weaknesses being that it is a economy engine and that parts are scarce the head is its main weakness and i just wanna be a worthy opponent to thoes at the track not just drop in a turbo "for the sound" also is this possible with an automatic? i unfortunatly have one

[Bricy]

have you thought about doing a auto to manual swap? I know a few people have done it and it doesnt seem to be too hard. If you got the tranny and cables you could do it over a weekend and that part would be out of the way.

[wannabealilfaste...]

sure i would love to do it i just need the manual tranny ima look into that next

[wannabealilfaste...]

what about nitrous oxide???? should i just drop the idea right now?

[lagos]

Gather your parts and learn the install intimatly. I spent well over a year reading about the install and then another year+ ordering parts and preparing. You can easly do the install over a weekend if you take the time to iron out the details ahead of time. Ive spent the past month+ under my car working on my kit and making sure everything was placed as best as possible. If I had tried I could have done 1 project at a time and kept the car driveable over the course of that month with the final install of the turbo.

Installing a turbo doesnt require "alot" of work. Its simply swaping a exhaust manifold for a turbo+manifold+DP with the oil and coolent lines already set, swaping the oil pan, taping for coolent and oil lines, relocating your oil filter, installing and running IC piping and swapping in larger injectors and 2 bar map. 3/4 of the work if fitment testing and prep work with alot of puting things on and taking them back off anyway.

that sounds like a really good idea we have a store over here called elite image and i asked them could the hunt the parts out and do the install for me and i started naming things i needed like the fuel pump the oil pan supra fuel injectors and he said yeah no prob and they could do the install too and that they had just gotten done doing the 3s swap into a camry now my question to you guys is it will definitly most likely cost more money than for me to collect the parts on my own but is this for the money really a "worth it" mod it would be nice to have the only turbo celi at the track but for that money should i get another car? because i know the HP gain cant be that great

if you go that route, you will DEEPLY regret it.

take the time to research things and lean about your setup. dont use any shop to do the work for you. they WILL just mess it up.

[wannabealilfaste...]

so hence there is no real easy route if i even consider starting this mod its gonna take a lot of time and patience along with trial and error hmm i dont know why burien couldnt just keep making the dang kit for it

[1bwilson]

Buriens kit would still involve instalation. That seems to be your issue which is the down time. Buriens settup is even more "Old school" then my origional 5sfte post and there are alot of things it was missing. Their kit may have been easy to buy and get your basic parts knocked out of the way but you can easly build a better basic settup for much less then their sale price.

Your best bet is to make your parts list and search the forums for where others got their stuff. Read about what works and what hasn't and start searching for parts. Tossing a WTB thread up on the alltrac and mr2 forums for a manifold/turbo/coolent/oil/oil pan/map settup will get you a flood of replys in a very short time. From there you need injectors and piping and you have what burien would have sold you.

[wannabealilfaste...]

k thanks

[wannabealilfaste...]

ok new update ive been reading around and i feel more confident about the 5sfte and ive already begun making up the parts list and doing more research then usual but i hit a huge snag as suggested i was gonna do the auto manual swap but...unfortunately it costs too damn much especially on an engine that is at 120k miles already i dont wanna spend up to 2000 dollars on a swap and then another 2000 on a turbo setup tho i know it will be harder to race with a auto at the track so now i really dont know what else to do ...any suggestions?

[GotToyota]

http://www.kingstonduo.com/turbo/

[wannabealilfaste...]

^^ i seen that before i even got to this site lol thats not my problem its just the auto tranny wont take too much of the punishment from the turbo thats now my main problem im willing to make my own kit but a manual swap is out of the questiong oh and i dont have tools so i would have to have a shop install the turbo if i could just figure out how to get past this obsitcal