2zz swap? Options

[yaj204]

has anyone done or think about doing a 2zz-ge swap to a 99 celica gt? i was looking at my brothers corolla xrs's motor mounts and both the motor mounts seems to be simular.. i think it can be done but will it pass smog and emission test?

[Kadett]

With some custom work it maybe fits but you still need some custom axle's to make it work. The money/trouble involved isn't worth it IMO.

[yaj204]

what do u think is worth the swap than? i heard 96 and up celicas dont pass smog with the 3sgte motor

[Celiracer18]

Considering the 2zz is getting easier to find and its getting cheaper to get, you could do it but whether its worth the cost to swap in or not is the question. if you dont wanna go with a 3S you could go with a 3mzfe v6 or something.

[lagos]

Its a very easy swap actually. You can get it done at just about any car dealership.

[spolski07]

Its a very easy swap actually. You can get it done at just about any car dealership.

what trading your 6gc in for a 7gc gts? lmao

[bccentaur3]

Its a very easy swap actually. You can get it done at just about any car dealership.

what trading your 6gc in for a 7gc gts? lmao

LOL.. But seriously think about it. Doing the 3s swap will give you more bang for the buck. If you get the 2zz motor you're only looking at about maybe 163 to the wheels. But I would have to say when lift kicks in it rocks my socks.

[MaskedMan]

Its a very easy swap actually. You can get it done at just about any car dealership.

what trading your 6gc in for a 7gc gts? lmao

LOL.. But seriously think about it. Doing the 3s swap will give you more bang for the buck. If you get the 2zz motor you're only looking at about maybe 163 to the wheels. But I would have to say when lift kicks in it rocks my socks.

you want VVT-i get a beams, you want an adrenaline rush, it will be 2 large

[yaj204]

i just want to keep toyotas 4 cylinder all motor alive and kicking!! you guys know what i'm saying? i believe the 2zz-ge is one bad ass motor when vvtl-i kicks!! people makes excuses after losing to a turbo car, tire of hearing that **** over and over again!! but thanks for the advices

[Kwanza26]

It can be done... and can be smog legal too... however since you're starting platform is a GT... it's probably easier to stay with the S series motors. The ZZ share more in common with the A series... and even share the same basic tranny...

[j0e_p3t]

^ that means good news for me.

[frosty]

you want VVT-i get a beams, you want an adrenaline rush, it will be 2 large

^^ ^^ (I love korny movie quotes )

i just want to keep toyotas 4 cylinder all motor alive and kicking!! you guys know what i'm saying? i believe the 2zz-ge is one bad ass motor when vvtl-i kicks!! people makes excuses after losing to a turbo car, tire of hearing that **** over and over again!! but thanks for the advices

I agree that the 2zz motor is sweet, (wish the lift was a little more agressive though, a regring could fix that )

But going for an all motor street car that stands a chance of beating a turbo, you would have to perform some seriouse weight reduction to the celi along with the motor build. (as sweet as they look, they're kind-of a porker in weight, especially when compared to something like a civic hatchback.)

2zz is definitly a good all motor choice in my book, but there must be weight reduction to the car!! Otherwise the weight will be your excuse when you get beat by a turbo car.

[Kadett]

I've driven a 7th gen GT-S or T-Sport as its called here in the Netherlands. It was when I still had the 3S-GE in the car so a bit more of fair comparison. I think the engine is just dull. There's nothing in the low revs and then when the VTTLI kicks in a bit of throat scraping up to 7800 rpm and than shift again. Of course it feels fast but thats because Toyota put in a rather short ratio gearbox so the acceleration feeling is higher. I'd rather have my 3S-GE over the 2zz-ge. Maybe it was also due to the fact I hate the 7th gen interior

[lagos]

I really don't understand why anyone would go through the hassle and cost of doing a swap like this when you can just buy a 7th gen GTS. You'll have a newer car, with the motor you want, and WAY better aftermarket support.

[yaj204]

i dont know about the 3sge motor over the 2zz most of the people i know rather pick the 2zz-ge over the 3s-ge i think the lift kicks good enough my brother's xrs went up against a eg with gsr with a b16 head with fully bolt ons and my brother still took him with just a cai and a crappy skunk2 exhaust, much respect for that motor!!unless you're talking about the 3s-gte, that'll be my number one choice for a turbo motor!

[j0e_p3t]

I really don't understand why anyone would go through the hassle and cost of doing a swap like this when you can just buy a 7th gen GTS. You'll have a newer car, with the motor you want, and WAY better aftermarket support.

cuz 6gc exterior>7gc? i'd rather go v6/3s cuz swapping in a motor for only 185 hp doesn't seem worth it.

This post has been edited by j0e_p3t: Nov 30, 2007 - 12:56 PM

[yaj204]

comparing a 2zz and a 3mz its not all about extra cylinders plus 2zz revs up higher

4 cylinder
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b0O0o9tw08Q

v6
http://youtube.com/watch?v=PGGN_6MmPeg

This post has been edited by yaj204: Nov 30, 2007 - 1:02 PM

[Kadett]

I rather have low end torque then high RPM HP. Much better for daily driving.

[frosty]

NEED TORQUE!!!!!!

[02bluerolla]

with headers catback , CAI., powerfc and good tune the 2zzge wakes up its basically like a rsx-s with the same mods except with k-pro.....and might i dare to say this....even faster than the rsx-s :x ... so the 2zz is not a bad motori think its just underrated