HELP!, my car was hit by a police cruiser Options

[nics]

while i was on my way home last night with my brother and my cousin, cruising to a stop then suddenly a car hit me on the driver side and then i realized that it was a police cruiser. he beat the red light continued driving 3 more blocks. called 911 and cops came in. thank God no one was hurt.

they told me that the cruiser was malfuntioning because of the gadgets hooked up in the car. the cruiser came from an alley, my cousin noticed it but i didnt because i didnt see any lights on including the siren. this happened around 9pm. the one driving the cruiser told the investigating officer that he was parked at the corner of the alley, he was applying his brakes then suddenly his car revved just like that and when the time that he hit my car, he said he put it in parking gear. I DONT KNOW IF ALL HE SAID WAS POSSIBLE!

i called my insurance and let them know what happened. the investigating officer told me that it was definitely not my fault and the insurance would take care of it.

i dont know what to do now...
im really pissed off!
seems like i would sue them!

any advice or help from you guys? thanks

[CelicaQT]

i called my insurance and let them know what happened. the investigating officer told me that it was definitely not my fault and the insurance would take care of it.

i dont know what to do now...
im really pissed off!
seems like i would sue them!

any advice or help from you guys? thanks

Seems like you already have your answer. You're lucky that it wasn't worse than what had happened. Glad you and your cousin weren't hurt! Please don't get sue happy. Just let insurance take care of it. The officer said that it wasn't your fault...and it wasn't , so just get the damage fixed. Maybe there are some goodies you may have wanted. hehe

-Christee-

This post has been edited by CelicaQT: Apr 8, 2008 - 9:52 PM

[nics]

i called my insurance and let them know what happened. the investigating officer told me that it was definitely not my fault and the insurance would take care of it.

i dont know what to do now...
im really pissed off!
seems like i would sue them!

any advice or help from you guys? thanks

Seems like you already have your answer. You're lucky that it wasn't worse than what had happened. Glad you and your cousin weren't hurt! Please don't get sue happy. Just let insurance take care of it. The officer said that it wasn't your fault...and it wasn't , so just get the damage fixed. Maybe there are some goodies you may have wanted. hehe

-Christee-

well i hope so, my care isnt drivable at all so im really pissed off! when i try to shift it and engaged the clutch it seems its just in neutral! well i would gladly accept cash! lol

[CelicaQT]

Awww man it's undrivable? Sucks! Hopefully the cops and your insurance company won't d!ck you around and you can get it fixed in no time. Do you have a spare car to drive around in the mean time?

-Christee-

[xs94st]

u didn't have to post this in multiple forums.

[nics]

Awww man it's undrivable? Sucks! Hopefully the cops and your insurance company won't d!ck you around and you can get it fixed in no time. Do you have a spare car to drive around in the mean time?

-Christee-

tomorrow i will call the claims department and try if they could give me a rental car for now...
i hope this would work. feels like i lost my 6gc..

u didn't have to post this in multiple forums.

my apologies..

[D-Man]

i'd sue the fcuk out of the police.

And if the car was in Park, thats not usually an electronic thing, it's a mechanical device. Plus, even if it was an electrical problem, that means that the cops are not obeying the laws that they hold you to. Are you going to let a cop tell you its okay for him but not for you? He's saying he's better than you. I'd sue that mother-fcuken police station for all it's worth, and my tax dollars too!!

[Random_Stranger]

I would sue the police. Go to here and see what these idiots do sometimes (not all cops are idiots, and I say this in case I end up being California Highway Patrol), it may reveal the truth in what happened with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppmx_3gUu_k

Says it jumped out of gear? No, dude forgot to park it.

Rated-PG13 for language

[massbrandon]

I have actually heard of this happening with the older police cruisers. I don't think you should sue them seeing as your insurance is going to pay for it all anyways. But thats just me.

[playr158]

that sux, but you have like nothing to sue them for....Just do like every other accident in the world, process through insurance, sit tight, and wait for the check to come in.

Plus, even if it was an electrical problem, that means that the cops are not obeying the laws that they hold you to. Are you going to let a cop tell you its okay for him but not for you? He's saying he's better than you. I'd sue that mother-fcuken police station for all it's worth, and my tax dollars too!!

is there ANYTHING even educated in this statement? you make ZERO sense and proves NO point....

FAIL

[bccentaur3]

What if the insurance marks his car is being totaled since its not driveable? Will they give him enough to buy another 6g?

[brthrurik]

What if the insurance marks his car is being totaled since its not driveable? Will they give him enough to buy another 6g?

If the insurance check isn't enough, then you go to the police and get the rest for a new 6gc. Same thing happened to my buddies pickup, except he got rear ended, cop got out car lurched forward and destroyed the back end of his new Tacoma.

[FreddyTheOthaMea...]

last time my car got totalled out they low-balled me and was barely enough to cover half of the cost of my 2nd celica. and the way the law looks at it, is that since the insurance company paid out (at the cheapest possible expense) then everything is even steven. even if that means you have to heft the additional amount to replace the car, plates, registration etc etc. and forget about reimbursement on aftermarket parts, insurance companies essentially say they should not have even been on there to begin with even though they were damaged by the at fault driver. gotta love our legal system eh?

[playr158]

What if the insurance marks his car is being totaled since its not driveable? Will they give him enough to buy another 6g?

Insurance totals a vehicle by normally: If the estimated damages to the vehicle exceed 2/3rds the value of the vehicle (or some other % depending on who you have ect.) they total the car. You will get a check for the market value of your car, (normally not enough). You do however have the option to buy your car back from the insurance company (normally pretty fair price) and use the check they wrote you to fix your car and get a salvage title.

usually the check is not enough to just go out and buy a new car, no.

EDIT: Insurance company's do not cover aftermarket parts most the time...why you ask? because YOU DID NOT CLAIM THEM ON YOUR INSURANCE. If you claim parts and modifications on your insurance plan normally they will cover it, but you have to notify your ins. every time you do it ect. and your rates probably will go up (ie more $$ insurance)
Thus 99.9% of people do not claim upgrades on their insurance, so when you go boom they won't cover them because they cover what is supposed to be on the vehicle.

This post has been edited by playr158: Apr 9, 2008 - 12:08 PM

[D-Man]

playr158, I dont know where your from, but around where i live the police are powerless to protect, but endowed to punish. "Failure to control motor vehicle" is an arrestable offense depending on the severity of the incident. Now how is it that a cop can "oops" his car down the street to total someone and walk away by saying "sorry" but i have been arrested for it? Fcuk that cop; and his car.

playr158, you can continue flaming if you want, i'm abandoning this thread, so i will not look nor reply. help your self to all the sh!t talking you want while i'm not looking. i "dislike" the law, i "dislike" every bit of this retarted government system. i will have nothing positive to say for the duration of this thread. I'm out.

Good luck nics, hope it works out for you.

[_mikeE]

Yep, cops exercise their advantage of authority way too much. But what Dan said is pretty much how it works here in Canada.
Totally sucks, and good thing you're not hurt or anything but it's too bad your celi is gone. You'll probably get back like...3-4 (max) gz for it...then go out and buy yourself another celi.

[808celica]

he's lying he just doesnt want to take the blame. he was probably speeding or talking on his cell phone and doing something.

[njccmd2002]

I have actually heard of this happening with the older police cruisers. I don't think you should sue them seeing as your insurance is going to pay for it all anyways. But thats just me.

your insurance should not pay a dime. Otherwise your rates are going up buddy. The city has to pay for your car. As this is definetily their fault.

If your insurance pays, you need to establish a lawsuit so that your insurance gets the money back, your rates dont go up, and you get paid for damages.

If it were me, thats what i did when another lady hit me in the rolla. I called my insurance, but let them know i did not want my insurance to pay. It was her fault, her insurance would pay. If not. then my insurance kicks in in addition to the lawsuit.

Guess what happened. I got a check in the mail from the other ladies insurance.. You are just protecting you civil rights.

It does not matter if its a cop or not, its a city owned vehicle. therefore you are entired to sue the city, not just the police....

cheers.

[GriffGirl]

I personally don't think you should sure the department either. For one, it's paid for by tax dollars, so you're not just suing the police or the city, you're suing yourself. That's so lame. For another, they already accepted liability, in all likelihood they're gonna cut you a fat check so you DON'T sue them. Agree to nothing, give them a chance to make it right, and if they don't make right on it, then maybe contact an attorney and see what your options are. Or, contact an attorney now for advice on how to go about this in such a manner that you protect yourself while giving them the opportunity to make it right.

I think it's SUPER lame when everyone just assumes all cops are assholes or whatever. People spend so much time hating them or blaming them and what-not, but then if something ever happens, they're the first ones you call and rely on for help. If you have problems with authority, don't take it out on cops, go see a shrink and figure out why you're so pissed off at your father or mother or third grade teacher or whatever. The majority of cops really are there to protect and serve. Give them a chance to make it right. It's just the right thing to do.

[airforceb2cc]

I agree with GriffGirl. It really sucks that your pride-and-joy was hit but mistakes/malfunctions happen. I've been in the cops position before in a 6-Pak Chevy 3500 long bed government vehicle. The brakes went out (retard changed a caliper and didn't bleed the lines) and I slammed in to a car at 50MPH on an off ramp. I had about 10 drivers cussing at me and saying how they hate the government because I can just walk away from totalling 2 vehicles and get nothing from it...that their tax dollars were wasted down the drain...that I should have to pay for both vehicles plus emergency responders fees. That the guy I hit was without a car for weeks while the insurance got sorted out. I really felt bad for the guy but what was there for me to do. He was the only one on my side because he know the gov't was going to buy him a new car. I talked to him about a month later and he got a check well over KBB for his car.

Just sit tight and see what happens.

[DEATH]

If you have problems with authority, don't take it out on cops, go see a shrink and figure out why you're so pissed off at your father or mother or third grade teacher or whatever.

[nics]

I would sue the police. Go to here and see what these idiots do sometimes (not all cops are idiots, and I say this in case I end up being California Highway Patrol), it may reveal the truth in what happened with you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppmx_3gUu_k

Says it jumped out of gear? No, dude forgot to park it.

Rated-PG13 for language

yep i ve seen this video before! lols very funny but in my case, i think it was stupid!

[nics]

What if the insurance marks his car is being totaled since its not driveable? Will they give him enough to buy another 6g?

well i hpoe they do. someone will come tommorow to check the car. its okay if its totaled but as long as i get my money, but the thing is, it is hard to find a nice 6gc! nd also my bond with my car.

[nics]

last time my car got totalled out they low-balled me and was barely enough to cover half of the cost of my 2nd celica. and the way the law looks at it, is that since the insurance company paid out (at the cheapest possible expense) then everything is even steven. even if that means you have to heft the additional amount to replace the car, plates, registration etc etc. and forget about reimbursement on aftermarket parts, insurance companies essentially say they should not have even been on there to begin with even though they were damaged by the at fault driver. gotta love our legal system eh?

they said that the police claim department would take care of it, not my insurance. Mercury is just trying to help me out. if they low balled me, that would piss me off and might decide to sue them. now im trying get contact with the investigating officer to help me out in the claims department to get me a rental car.

[nics]

playr158, I dont know where your from, but around where i live the police are powerless to protect, but endowed to punish. "Failure to control motor vehicle" is an arrestable offense depending on the severity of the incident. Now how is it that a cop can "oops" his car down the street to total someone and walk away by saying "sorry" but i have been arrested for it? Fcuk that cop; and his car.

playr158, you can continue flaming if you want, i'm abandoning this thread, so i will not look nor reply. help your self to all the sh!t talking you want while i'm not looking. i "dislike" the law, i "dislike" every bit of this retarted government system. i will have nothing positive to say for the duration of this thread. I'm out.

Good luck nics, hope it works out for you.

thanks D-man. im located in san diego, ca. i hope information in this thread may help me in the future

[nics]

he's lying he just doesnt want to take the blame. he was probably speeding or talking on his cell phone and doing something.

nope, i wasnt speeding at all. well the investigating officer told me already that it was definitely no my fault. in fact the police cruiser is in the corner of an alley and he should yield to oncoming traffic. i bet he was there trying to catch someone who would beat the light but unfortunately didnt pay attention if there are oncoming cars. he's risking people's lives and property just for the sake of getting someone a ticket.

also i dont own a cellphone. my cousin was the one who has the phone.

well i m not against your opinion, this is a forum where people are free to criticize or give there opinion.

[nics]

I personally don't think you should sure the department either. For one, it's paid for by tax dollars, so you're not just suing the police or the city, you're suing yourself. That's so lame. For another, they already accepted liability, in all likelihood they're gonna cut you a fat check so you DON'T sue them. Agree to nothing, give them a chance to make it right, and if they don't make right on it, then maybe contact an attorney and see what your options are. Or, contact an attorney now for advice on how to go about this in such a manner that you protect yourself while giving them the opportunity to make it right.

I think it's SUPER lame when everyone just assumes all cops are assholes or whatever. People spend so much time hating them or blaming them and what-not, but then if something ever happens, they're the first ones you call and rely on for help. If you have problems with authority, don't take it out on cops, go see a shrink and figure out why you're so pissed off at your father or mother or third grade teacher or whatever. The majority of cops really are there to protect and serve. Give them a chance to make it right. It's just the right thing to do.

the cops were actually profesional when they talked to me. they seem nice a willing to help me out. well i just dont know the guy that hit me though.

[nics]

guys, if this could be taken in diplomacy, it would be okay as long as they replace what is damaged. if it turns out that i will get what is not worth of the damage, ill try other options. suing is the last resort. it would take time for results to come. for now i would try to do as best for that not to happen.

[dabazied]

Dude that sux. Hope everything works out for you in this deal. If they don't give you enough to cover EVERYTHING like it never happened, I say take it to court. City and the Dept. I'm just a lil miffed cuz the other day I got pulled over by a silver subaru that was kinda modded. Anyways, good luck with everything dude, and definitely make it so the city pays instead of your insurance cuz it would suck to have your insurance go up because of someone else's mistake.

[MaskedMan]

he's lying he just doesnt want to take the blame. he was probably speeding or talking on his cell phone and doing something.

nope, i wasnt speeding at all. well the investigating officer told me already that it was definitely no my fault. in fact the police cruiser is in the corner of an alley and he should yield to oncoming traffic. i bet he was there trying to catch someone who would beat the light but unfortunately didnt pay attention if there are oncoming cars. he's risking people's lives and property just for the sake of getting someone a ticket.

also i dont own a cellphone. my cousin was the one who has the phone.

well i m not against your opinion, this is a forum where people are free to criticize or give there opinion.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the cop lying, not you.

[easternpiro1]

ok that does it... nics, buddy, you suddenly are feeling tightness in your back, and your neck has been acting weird lately...

thats the way to go man. its not anybody's money in particular, use the extra money to buy yourself another celi if you want and sit on the rest to save for swap, extras for the car or whatever.

bottom line is in this world WOLVES EAT and SHEEP GET EATEN.
get your money bro.

being nice wont help any. insurance will try to low ball you. its their JOB to look out for themselves and teh best interest of the city. GET YOUR MONEY. youre not stealing, and no one is going to personally suffer financially or otherwise for you getting a little extra.

I learned my lessson about being nice guy in such situations. and now I may get sued because some people want to be greedy. like i said before, nobody in particular is coming out of pocket so do what you gotta do


that will cost you $23 and a 12 pack of Corona. PM me for my addy and paypal info

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Apr 9, 2008 - 10:56 PM

[ILuvMyCelica95]

I'm not reading through all of this. So if this was said already disregard it.


WHY does everyone automatically want to sue people. I'm so sick of frivolous lawsuits just because someone THINKS they should do something.

This is an insurance issue. The police already told you that it was not your fault and you called your insurance company. Wait until the insurance company assess the damages to your car and then gives you whatever they think you are entitled to to fix it.

To everyone who chimed in to "sue" please don't give advice if you don't know what you're talking about.

You sue someone if an amicable solution to a problem cannot be reached out of court. In this case there is no reason to sue inasmuch as you've already contacted your insurance company to pay for the damages to your car.

IF the police car hit you and then claimed it was your fault THEN you could sue.

Sorry if that came off harsh but i've been in the legal field for 4+ years now and no one seems to understand that suing someone is supposed to be the last resort not the first thing you do.

Edit: Please keep pointless responses to this in your head and not here. I don't want to deal with it. If you have an educated response by all means post it.


This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Apr 9, 2008 - 11:21 PM

[playr158]

thank you Tina

/thread

[creis]

deff give them the chance to make it right, sueing them is in my opinion a waset of time your money, their budget and the citys tax dollers, also imo unjustified, they said it was not your fault so your issurance rates will not go up, it is not legal for them to raise your rates unless your at fault.

Its not up to your issurance to cover any of the cost, its the police departments issurance that will cover it, and probably cover it pretty well. get a rental right away or charge for bus/taxi whatever, and clame the real value of your car (extra parts included,) when my civic was totaled I clamed every aftermarket part (had to have recipts for it all which I did) and they paid for it all, I left out a few things that I was able to pull from the car with no issues, thus I got what I feel was the real value of the car. and got the check in 2 weeks including loss of wedges because i was out of work for a week, and due to my age (total bs imo) they were not able to get me a rental so my dad "rented" his extra car to me for a resonable cost which they covered.

Point is, give the system a chance to make it right, the nicer you are about it to them the happier they are to deal with you and do right by you. you get angree then they dont want to deal with you.

Edit: Please keep pointless responses to this in your head and not here. I don't want to deal with it. If you have an educated response by all means post it.

kinda funny I dont see moderator under tina's name but I do agree.

This post has been edited by creis: Apr 10, 2008 - 11:53 PM

[ILuvMyCelica95]

[quote]Edit: Please keep pointless responses to this in your head and not here. I don't want to deal with it. If you have an educated response by all means post it. [quote]
kinda funny I dont see moderator under tina's name but I do agree. [/quote]

I meant responses to my post.

This post has been edited by ILuvMyCelica95: Apr 10, 2008 - 6:55 AM

[GriffGirl]

ok that does it... nics, buddy, you suddenly are feeling tightness in your back, and your neck has been acting weird lately... being nice wont help any...GET YOUR MONEY... I learned my lessson about being nice guy in such situations. and now I may get sued because some people want to be greedy. like i said before, nobody in particular is coming out of pocket so do what you gotta do

Has the thought occurred to you that there is such a thing as karma? Sure, it's no one's money in particular, it's just the taxpayer's money. Got a job? Then yeah, that's YOU, buddy. Maybe not in this case, but in plenty other cases just like it. Stop and think about what you're saying... I'm sorry you *may* get sued "because some people want to be greedy", but really, that eye for an eye **** stopped being relevant 2000 years ago. And retaliating vicariously through someone else's misfortune is kinda low.

I'm not trying to be mean, and this isn't a personal attack on YOU as a person by any means. But I strongly disagree with the ideology of that post.

[nics]

he's lying he just doesnt want to take the blame. he was probably speeding or talking on his cell phone and doing something.

nope, i wasnt speeding at all. well the investigating officer told me already that it was definitely no my fault. in fact the police cruiser is in the corner of an alley and he should yield to oncoming traffic. i bet he was there trying to catch someone who would beat the light but unfortunately didnt pay attention if there are oncoming cars. he's risking people's lives and property just for the sake of getting someone a ticket.

also i dont own a cellphone. my cousin was the one who has the phone.

well i m not against your opinion, this is a forum where people are free to criticize or give there opinion.

nope, he was refering to me because in the start of the thread i have mentioned that thet cruiser was parked at the corner of an alley.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the cop lying, not you.

ok that does it... nics, buddy, you suddenly are feeling tightness in your back, and your neck has been acting weird lately...

thats the way to go man. its not anybody's money in particular, use the extra money to buy yourself another celi if you want and sit on the rest to save for swap, extras for the car or whatever.

bottom line is in this world WOLVES EAT and SHEEP GET EATEN.
get your money bro.

being nice wont help any. insurance will try to low ball you. its their JOB to look out for themselves and teh best interest of the city. GET YOUR MONEY. youre not stealing, and no one is going to personally suffer financially or otherwise for you getting a little extra.

I learned my lessson about being nice guy in such situations. and now I may get sued because some people want to be greedy. like i said before, nobody in particular is coming out of pocket so do what you gotta do


that will cost you $23 and a 12 pack of Corona. PM me for my addy and paypal info

lols

[808celica]

he's lying he just doesnt want to take the blame. he was probably speeding or talking on his cell phone and doing something.

nope, i wasnt speeding at all. well the investigating officer told me already that it was definitely no my fault. in fact the police cruiser is in the corner of an alley and he should yield to oncoming traffic. i bet he was there trying to catch someone who would beat the light but unfortunately didnt pay attention if there are oncoming cars. he's risking people's lives and property just for the sake of getting someone a ticket.

also i dont own a cellphone. my cousin was the one who has the phone.

well i m not against your opinion, this is a forum where people are free to criticize or give there opinion.

I'm pretty sure he was referring to the cop lying, not you.

lolz derrick you always got my back

[Random_Stranger]

Doesn't your insurance go up? Don't you have to pay a deductable? Don't you have to go a period without having your car? The way I see it, this land was built from crooks (look into our source of money, insurance, how we all live off of credit which goes back to who makes our money, politics, tax breaks for the rich, and the list goes on). Suing is just being a good American.

I just wanted to toss that in there. Do what you wish.

[easternpiro1]

bottom line is in this world WOLVES EAT and SHEEP GET EATEN.
get your money bro.

ACTUALLY miss griff yes karma has come to mind, but im not in that religion. I always think before i speak, an eye for an eye is in full effect and i do pay taxes, and people are going to do it anyway. i havent felt the pinch in my wallet from fradulent claims yet. Karma told me that if youre mr nice guy, it will come back to you after people take advantage of you first. life is about GETTING YOURS. because nobody else is going to get it for you.

no offense taken sweetheart its a forum! and its great hearing other points of view without being killed for it!


YOU THE MAN NICS! i knew you would understand! lol easternpiro@Hotmail.com for the paypal!

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Apr 10, 2008 - 6:34 PM

[Random_Stranger]

bottom line is in this world WOLVES EAT and SHEEP GET EATEN.
get your money bro.

ACTUALLY miss griff yes karma has come to mind, but im not in that religion. I always think before i speak, an eye for an eye is in full effect and i do pay taxes, and people are going to do it anyway. i havent felt the pinch in my wallet from fradulent claims yet. Karma told me that if youre mr nice guy, it will come back to you after people take advantage of you first. life is about GETTING YOURS. because nobody else is going to get it for you.

no offense taken sweetheart its a forum! and its great hearing other points of view without being killed for it!


YOU THE MAN NICS! i knew you would understand! lol easternpiro@Hotmail.com for the paypal!

So in other words.... Survival of the fittest, only the strong survive. Which can be proved in many ways.
If you do not take, you are left with nothing.

[stetsonaw]

last month my wife was involved in a four car accidend with her curren ;( ... it was her, 2 other americans and a japanese van. she stopped, got rear ended by the van, which pushed her into the car in front of her, then another american smashed into the back of the van. in japan, if you are in a car wreck of any kind, there is a percentage that is automatically your fault if you are an american, because japanese law states that all americans are "professional drivers". well, come to find out, that van was owned by the local police department, and NOBODY but the PD's insurance paid a cent. the only damage caused by the wreck was the hood was bent up and the boot was bent in so much that it wouldn't close. they completely stripped and repainted the hood (which i was gonna do anyway, magnet melted to it), and fixed the rear bumper (which i punctured a hole in about a year ago).

my point is, if it is anything like it is here where you are, you should have no problem.

just my .02

[easternpiro1]

bottom line is in this world WOLVES EAT and SHEEP GET EATEN.
get your money bro.

ACTUALLY miss griff yes karma has come to mind, but im not in that religion. I always think before i speak, an eye for an eye is in full effect and i do pay taxes, and people are going to do it anyway. i havent felt the pinch in my wallet from fradulent claims yet. Karma told me that if youre mr nice guy, it will come back to you after people take advantage of you first. life is about GETTING YOURS. because nobody else is going to get it for you.

no offense taken sweetheart its a forum! and its great hearing other points of view without being killed for it!


YOU THE MAN NICS! i knew you would understand! lol easternpiro@Hotmail.com for the paypal!

So in other words.... Survival of the fittest, only the strong survive. Which can be proved in many ways.
If you do not take, you are left with nothing.

EXACTLY BRO! karma dosent pay the rent on the 1st of every month! but just some real world words of wisdom... sorry to thread jack nics... keep us updated! do you have pics?

This post has been edited by easternpiro1: Apr 10, 2008 - 11:12 PM

[nics]

bottom line is in this world WOLVES EAT and SHEEP GET EATEN.
get your money bro.

ACTUALLY miss griff yes karma has come to mind, but im not in that religion. I always think before i speak, an eye for an eye is in full effect and i do pay taxes, and people are going to do it anyway. i havent felt the pinch in my wallet from fradulent claims yet. Karma told me that if youre mr nice guy, it will come back to you after people take advantage of you first. life is about GETTING YOURS. because nobody else is going to get it for you.

no offense taken sweetheart its a forum! and its great hearing other points of view without being killed for it!


YOU THE MAN NICS! i knew you would understand! lol easternpiro@Hotmail.com for the paypal!

So in other words.... Survival of the fittest, only the strong survive. Which can be proved in many ways.
If you do not take, you are left with nothing.

EXACTLY BRO! karma dosent pay the rent on the 1st of every month! but just some real world words of wisdom... sorry to thread jack nics... keep us updated! do you have pics?

yep i do have pics but i havnt uploaded it.

thanks guys for everything.. just wanted to get whats mine. well ill update you guys if i hear anything good or bad from the City claims.

[808celica]

***edited your post April 13th, 2008 - 11:11 PM**



So in other words.... Survival of the fittest, only the strong survive. Which can be proved in many ways.
If you do not take, 808celica will take it all

This post has been edited by 808celica: Apr 14, 2008 - 4:13 AM