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post May 15, 2008 - 8:37 PM
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My local shell is doing this. Is this a legal thing. Is it bad for the car. Men, just realized this today.

This can be a repost so sorry. Do you know who else is doing this. They are diluting to 10% ethanol. What a ripoff


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post May 15, 2008 - 9:02 PM
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QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 15, 2008 - 8:37 PM) *
My local shell is doing this. Is this a legal thing. Is it bad for the car. Men, just realized this today.

This can be a repost so sorry. Do you know who else is doing this. They are diluting to 10% ethanol. What a ripoff



actually ethanol is better for the enviroment and is more powerful than regular gas, its perfectly legal. less expensive too.

ethanol comes from corn haha jsut so ya know

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post May 15, 2008 - 9:13 PM
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this isnt new at all man. most stations are at 10% ethanol max limit.


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post May 15, 2008 - 9:21 PM
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that ethanol mix sucks!! My mileage dropped when they started doing that...ethanol as actually less efficient than regular ol' polluting gas!

Sucks im paying more for gas and im not even getting 100% gasoline!!!

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post May 16, 2008 - 12:43 AM
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The more ethanol the cheaper the gas (in theory)

e85 ethanol has been around. Google it.


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post May 16, 2008 - 12:51 AM
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I just ate a lot of corn for dinner.... Looks like later I am going to be making some ethanol





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No but seriously, the prices went up, and I feel we are paying more. This is bull. $4.05 for my plus gas at Chevron. Ppffttt... Waaa waaaa, that's me but damn.


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post May 16, 2008 - 4:13 AM
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dayum 4.05!?!?! plus here is 3.96 i think?? almost there though frown.gif luckily i got this 0.05 off my gas coupon card from my insurance company for "being a safe driver" right after i got my ticket laugh.gif

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post May 16, 2008 - 8:03 AM
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QUOTE (SeverX13 @ May 15, 2008 - 10:02 PM) *
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 15, 2008 - 8:37 PM) *
My local shell is doing this. Is this a legal thing. Is it bad for the car. Men, just realized this today.

This can be a repost so sorry. Do you know who else is doing this. They are diluting to 10% ethanol. What a ripoff



actually ethanol is more powerful than regular gas, its perfectly legal. less expensive too.


No, it's not. It is a less efficient fuel, yields less power, and is more expensive to make.

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post May 16, 2008 - 8:08 AM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 16, 2008 - 9:03 AM) *
QUOTE (SeverX13 @ May 15, 2008 - 10:02 PM) *
QUOTE (njccmd2002 @ May 15, 2008 - 8:37 PM) *
My local shell is doing this. Is this a legal thing. Is it bad for the car. Men, just realized this today.

This can be a repost so sorry. Do you know who else is doing this. They are diluting to 10% ethanol. What a ripoff



actually ethanol is more powerful than regular gas, its perfectly legal. less expensive too.


No, it's not.

x2 - you can feel a slight difference [like going from 93 to 91] and it doesn't get as good of mileage.


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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 16, 2008 - 8:03 AM) *
No, it's not. It is a less efficient fuel, yields less power, and is more expensive to make.

QUOTE (DEATH @ May 16, 2008 - 8:08 AM) *
x2 - you can feel a slight difference [like going from 93 to 91] and it doesn't get as good of mileage.

True to both, The only advantage of it, is that it's a "renewable" fuel sorce.

When your buying food at your local kroger, you can thank ethonal for the higher prices.

All the farmers are coverting over to Corn-fields, (takes ALOT of corn to make ethonal) and so prices for lettuce and tomatos and sh!t are going up. there are just less tomatoes being grown...supply and demand...

Sucks dont it?


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post May 16, 2008 - 8:19 AM
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Most of the crops used to make ethanol aren't sold to the public, rather to feed livestock.

It takes something like 10 gallons of gasoline to make 1 gallon of E85.


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post May 16, 2008 - 9:11 AM
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It's not new (and it might seem biased, i dunno you decide,) but this article is an interesting read.

Oh, and Ted Turner gets gov't subsidies because he owns agricultural land smile.gif


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post May 16, 2008 - 9:34 AM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 16, 2008 - 8:19 AM) *
Most of the crops used to make ethanol aren't sold to the public, rather to feed livestock.


and so food prices continue to rise for meat~ rolleyes.gif


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post May 16, 2008 - 9:48 AM
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Everything is going up, except my salary.


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Luckily I'm in a postion to command double the cost of living increase every year. It helps that I invented half the products we manufacture tho.

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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 16, 2008 - 9:48 AM) *
Everything is going up, except my salary.

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so it sucks, i never really paid attention.

Everytime i go to this specific gas station my car sometimes is not as responsive.

I think its drunk laugh.gif

i will look around to find if i can get a more reliable source of petro. and not etoh. laugh.gif

Lets all thank the EP.... for rising gas prices....

our salaries will go up this year. we are all getting the 1 dollar rebate wink.gif


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post May 16, 2008 - 12:57 PM
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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ May 16, 2008 - 7:48 AM) *
Everything is going up, except my salary.


That pretty much sums it up. Thank god the federal government has come to the rescue with the economic stimulus.

Oh wait, that's taxable income. And will most likely be used by most to pay bills. And gas shot up again, and Saudi Arabia has rebuffed Bush's request to pump more oil (as of today on CNN.com). The price of grain has skyrocketed, because there's one particular type of rice that there's a shortage on. So domino effect because of all the other grain being $ increased, everything goes up. There goes my stimulus check. Mini wheats, electricity and gasoline. Gone.

Yeah, ethanol. It's legal and it burns cleaner, but it's about to burn a heck of a LOT cleaner when people can't afford to put gas in their cars any more. This is absolutely ridiculous. Thanks, dubyuh.

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lets make a stadium wave for dubya







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dubya? that dumbass?

For all of you guys who dont live in the USA; let me explain...

This guy was in office first, and he sold our oil reserves:


Then we got this genus:


and he started a war:




to save the children of iraq:


now his term is FINALY almost up, but our 2 real canadates are theese jokers:



And with gas prices and dumbasses in office; pretty soon we'll be reduced to:


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I concur with all of that D-Man except one really bad mistake - the picture of him reading the book upside down? That was taken on September 11th, 2001 in Florida. That kid is not Iraqi, and it (IMO) is icky to see that picture of him reading to kids (okay, "reading") at nearly the very moment the first plane hit the WTC.

Anyhow, you forgot to include any good shots of McCain, and that just makes you biased now. smile.gif After 200+ years of having our country ruled by crusty old white men, w/exception of JFK because he wasn't crusty yet, do you honestly think ANOTHER crusty old white guy is gonna affect change? PUH-LEEZE.


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im paying 3.99 for regular... i think its 4.35 for hi ... kinda sux.


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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ May 16, 2008 - 3:35 PM) *
I concur with all of that D-Man except one really bad mistake - the picture of him reading the book upside down? That was taken on September 11th, 2001 in Florida. That kid is not Iraqi, and it (IMO) is icky to see that picture of him reading to kids (okay, "reading") at nearly the very moment the first plane hit the WTC.

Anyhow, you forgot to include any good shots of McCain, and that just makes you biased now. smile.gif After 200+ years of having our country ruled by crusty old white men, w/exception of JFK because he wasn't crusty yet, do you honestly think ANOTHER crusty old white guy is gonna affect change? PUH-LEEZE.

GRIFF!! quit over anylizeing everything. (i know i spelled that wrong, i dont have spell check! kindasad.gif )

The fact that it's a dark kid surrounded by american items reading a booked titled america is a perfect example of what bush is doing in iraq. Makeing a little; sandy; new-merica. laugh.gif

And nobody is gunna vote for McCain. the only way he'll win is if all the (minorities) and (feminist) dont vote.

And regardless who wins, somebody's getting assassinated. Sorry guys, but it's true. the panthers will take out McCain, the clan will take out brock, and any it's anyones guess who (what old fashioned close minded man rather) takes out Hillary.

Nobody is gunna fix our damn gov't. Oh sure let em try, but it always has and always will be some krusty person in office, that's so fcuking rich that they just run for office because the need power. And we expect that person to see us when i'm counting dimes and nickles at fcuking kroger for baby formula? Hell no they dont see that. nor do they care. The send the're french buttler jock (pronounced zzhock) to the store for them. Never expect a rich person to provide, understand, relate, or genuinely care about the other side.

but that's my .02 cents on the ordeal. rolleyes.gif Who cares what i think~ laugh.gif

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Poor hamster - anybody notice what's laying on the engine stand? No wonder he looks so sad laugh.gif

Fcuking awesome~ tongue.gif

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Sorry, I'm so grumpy today! Overy-analyzing, okay. But I still stand on the Florida pic. The "it's a dark kid surrounded by american items reading a booked titled america" is the kind of rhetoric and thought that makes Americans look like the stupid ignorant asses that Bush is. I don't want to be lumped in that category is all I'm sayin'. Not everyone dark is Mexican or Iraqi.

I LOVE that one w/Bush looking through the binoculars though. That one cracks me up every time. That and the might as well be "I did not have sex with that woman" gesture of Bill's. LOL!!!


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gas price increases are due to demand, like in China and India, decreaseing reserves, etc.., it's also alot of politic. I don't think that war has anything to do with the price rise, it just sank you guys into a nice big national debts to create democracy in iraq.


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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ May 16, 2008 - 6:42 PM) *
I LOVE that one w/Bush looking through the binoculars though. That one cracks me up every time. That and the might as well be "I did not have sex with that woman" gesture of Bill's. LOL!!!

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I think everything that can be said about ethanol in gasoline has been.


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I think everything that can be said about ethanol in gasoline has been.


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