dragondogs first car pic Options

[Dragondog]

here is a pic of my car finally.......and is soon to be changed hopefuly....still working on the inside of my car.....needs washed

[goferris]

actually i don't mind the wing on the coupe. keep us updated on any changes.

[manphibian]

Looks like you could use a good machine polish to bring it back to it's full glory

[Dragondog]

yep im gonna repaint........hey thoes rims in ur sig do they have a lip

sneek preview what do u thing about this




This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 7, 2008 - 5:20 PM

[manphibian]

They're 7th Gen GT-S rims, painted, with a red vinyl strip


Some good work going on there

[njccmd2002]

yep im gonna repaint........hey thoes rims in ur sig do they have a lip

sneek preview what do u thing about this

ok, where did you get that, share !!

I was thinking of relocating the rear window controls since my car is a vert. I want to do something in the dash.

What about your cup holders?

[Dragondog]

i made it my self as far as cup holders go...im treating my car like a porsha theres no such thing as drinking in my car....must be bottled......the lid u see is not staying maybe ill rig something up inside the middle compartment to hold drinks...(bottled drinks)

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 7, 2008 - 8:12 PM

[Akira_g4]

haha that's tight! the switches in the mid console remind me of the 7th gens switchs for the windows.

[MaskedMan]

Center console piece looks good . If you relocated your switches there though, what did you put in place of where the switches originally were at?

[Dragondog]

good question right now its just a sold blank piece i was thinking of maybe a holder for cell phones or lose change but then i thought how well that will work when i put sissor doors on...everything will fall...i may just leave blank and put TOYOTA lettering on it so it not so dull...or something flashy...need car show look

[Dragondog]

take a look at these...idk if yall know the story but RIGHT after buying the car a cop hit me (his fault).....it was slightly pushed in frame unharmed i used rubber hammer to push back out but still it all dont line up right......any sudgest......the bumper seems to be lower and tail light dont line up with trunk lid and corner of light sticks out a bit from fender

[Dragondog]

what is a dump bar r whatever

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 9, 2008 - 11:14 AM

[zero07]

Where in Texas are you?

Good work so far!

[D-Man]

SHOPPING CART HANDLE / RAZOR WINGS!!

FTMFW!!



This post has been edited by D-Man: Jun 9, 2008 - 2:15 PM

[creis]

sneek preview what do u thing about this

I was just thinking about doing that kinda mod but with just the side mirror controlls, could not really decided but I'll think much harder about it after seeing yours. nice work.

[Dragondog]

SHOPPING CART HANDLE / RAZOR WINGS!!

FTMFW!!

LOL yea thats y im getting trd style wing....


lubbock texas


thanks for all the positive replies


what should i do bout gap between tail light how to fix....should i let shop do it?

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 9, 2008 - 4:36 PM

[D-Man]

LOL yea thats y im getting trd style wing....

...You people and your damn TRD style wings...

w/e

what should i do bout gap between tail light how to fix....should i let shop do it?

Take that bumper off. Or figure out what isn't connected.

Personaly, I'd take it off, and check to make sure everything is there (Bolts, nuts, clips, ect) then re-install it so that it lines up right. It looks like its off a clip or two. Shop will rape you in your wallet though...

Rub that white stuff off with your thumb. All n All it should Take a few hours. no big deal.

Take pix. I wanna see...

This post has been edited by D-Man: Jun 9, 2008 - 4:44 PM

[DEATH]

Step 1. Drive to Houston and Pick up beer along the way
Step 2. Supply D-Man with beer to cover cost of labor and to DEATH to cover cost of shop/tools/supplies
Step 3. Drive home happy with near stock looking bumper gaps
Any questions?

Edit: BTW - where did you get the letter stickers to do the Celica thing? I needed some of those when I repainted my brake calipers recently.

This post has been edited by DEATH: Jun 9, 2008 - 4:58 PM

[Dragondog]

the letter stickers were just some stickers i put down on top of dried black paint then painted red over then used razor to peel up sticker and presto

[Dragondog]

little bit of a photo shoot

















This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 9, 2008 - 8:03 PM

[njccmd2002]

what the heck happened to the interior, was it stripped?

the around the stick shift!!!!

thje radio???

[4mdabay]

where did you get the tweeter cover from?

[Dragondog]

remodel and ruberized coating in back in wheel well and under back seats...noise cancel........anyway flip out dvd player was stolen...(no harm to car)...and the around the stick shift is all part of my moveing the switches....also notice the relocation of cig. lighter....for cell phones...mainly moved for radar detect so wires r not in way...wires trace nicly along dash to cig lighter now...where the cig. lighter was at is now 5 switches....not in car yet

tweeter cover i already had (came with car) i just painted them

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 9, 2008 - 7:30 PM

[Dragondog]

these were in my car till my four way went through them
two 12s fosgate....same as in 2fast and 2furious

[D-Man]

Step 1. Drive to Houston and Pick up beer along the way
Step 2. Supply D-Man with beer to cover cost of labor and to DEATH to cover cost of shop/tools/supplies
Step 3. Drive home happy with near stock looking bumper gaps
Any questions?

It's so true...

I can fix those too (you'll have to wait till auguest if you need the seats though I'm still using them ATM)

This post has been edited by D-Man: Jun 10, 2008 - 9:55 AM

[Dragondog]

iv got seats i took them off so i can put in speakers 6x9s right next to 3rd brake light..and 6.5s in the holester...and to noise cancel....but i do need help with dents and alining bumper....im getting a body kit and i would really like it to line up right...if u got tips on doing it myself that would be great.......i dont know when ill be down in houston cuz of hopital stuff going on (just had surgry...and yet that wont stop me from enjoing my car lol) too many doctors visit....i do how ever plan on moving down there to be with family

[D-Man]

okay. I'll give you all the advice i can. You just have to take pics in advanced so i can try to see what the heck your talking about.

I've already gave you my opinion on that bumper. You can see one of the tabs that it's not holding onto in one of your first pics.

Advice Tip #2, When you move to Houston, I dont work exclusively for alchol. But it sure does get me out faster



For real, I'll be happy to patch that side up for you though. Hollar at me next time you come down.

[Dragondog]

the pannel was all pushed in tail light didnt line up at all i rubber hammerd on the inside of my trunk pushing the pannel out it lines up better now but im still not happy...i think the pannel is ****ed its all bent funny and there are so many natural curves its hard to get the way its suppost to be

[D-Man]

Look at that black thing under the light. On the inside of the bumper is a C shaped clamp that kina CLICKS into each other... just without the click... It's difficult to explain, but if you take the WHOLE thing off, and put it back on, i promise you the results will be MUCH better

[95CelicaST]

Your car would run better if you took your IAT sensor off the frame rail and put it in your intake where it belongs.

[Dragondog]

Your car would run better if you took your IAT sensor off the frame rail and put it in your intake where it belongs.

yea um thats y i took the pic.....cuz my intake does not have a place for it...and when u mean run better u mean gas wise? cuz it run better then any other car iv ever driven and iv driven more cars then i can count...just bad on gas...didnt used to be....i drove to houston wile back and i filled b4 i left and again 3/4 the way there...it used to be real good on gas.....and what is the IAT sensor for anyways...if i knew how to put it on i would (i dont have a way of weilding) any thoughts?

http://www.6gc.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=59132
dont mean to thread jack sry

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 10, 2008 - 4:40 PM

[Dragondog]

here r some more pic of my tail lights

[Dragondog]

edit**ok well i got back to workin on my car my switches r now installed in my car and workin and no exposed wires...if u want pic of it installed n the car let me know...and i was doing some lookin and noticed my throttle cable is diff. from others (well pic iv seen anyways) it curves all the way around towreds the front like a big C shap... is it suppost to be like that?



This post has been edited by snapshotgt: Jun 16, 2008 - 10:29 AM

[95CelicaST]

yeah the throttle cable is fine.

The IAT(intake air temp) sensor needs to be in-line with the air coming into the motor, so what you need to do is just pull your intake and drill a small hole in it a few inches back from the filter, then put a rubber grommet on it, and stick the sensor in. Thats all.

[DEATH]

yeah the throttle cable is fine.

The IAT(intake air temp) sensor needs to be in-line with the air coming into the motor, so what you need to do is just pull your intake and drill a small hole in it a few inches back from the filter, then put a rubber grommet on it, and stick the sensor in. Thats all.

the original grommet from the stock intake makes a great insert for your SRI - just remember to drill the hole slightly smaller than the grommet's groove diameter is so it will press fit in and the IAT will press fit into that [not much - you just want it to seal slightly - your MAP based so a small leak there will be no problem].
This is the best way to do this.

-Or-

in the meantime, just ziptie the sensor to your intake piping near and facing the cone [To be honest the thing does very little as it is it's just you have it laying on a potentially hot metal surface]. You should fix it the right way above but I know plenty of people who don't - just get it off the frame rail]

[D-Man]

Oh man, those were your damn "pop tabs" I hate those things... Now that i can see in there, it looks like your center piece is fcuked up actually... Get a fiberglass repair kit from walmart, Sand the edges of that thing with a high grit so you get some tooth & grip on that polyurethane, and refabricate the tab that screws into that area behind your light. Just guessing from the pic, that should help straighten things up a bit. However, i think that bumper is off center too though... Then again, i'm lookin at pics. What would i know But those poptabs look like they're out of alignment. angled; if you will.

IDK, i'd have to put my hands on it to guarantee anything. But fabing that tab back to one piece and attaching it cant hurt

[Dragondog]

maybe this will help notice where the tab is conected its a spot weilded pice of metal, to me it looks the pannel is bent downwords plus to make it worse one of the spot wields is broke off makeing the metal pice, the bumper is cliped to, hang downward along with pannel bent downward causing the bumper to wrap and sag
is there a how to on taking the bumper off?



This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 11, 2008 - 10:56 AM

[Dragondog]

ok well i would like help identifing my engin.....i here alot bout 7s and 5s....i dont know witch 1 i have its a 94 2.2......thats what i know....and i would like to know how some r able to advance there timing to 20 when the marks only go up to 15...and in my case distributor wont turn any more to go past 15....i wasted money on a timing light just to find out my distributor wont turn either way past 0 nor 15....the more and more i mess with my engin the more i get confused on what u guys r talking about...if u could tell r show me where to look on the engin to identify it it would help me better on my searching...oh yea and r there any mods for the spedo cluster to witch the rpm r dead center and the spedo is on side?

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jun 19, 2008 - 3:24 PM

[Dragondog]

alright new update car now has coilovers looking good ill get pic i now need to get 17 in rims and toss those 16in 50lb each 3 spoke rims and some z3 fenders......if got better idea on fenders plz let me know my options r open and do post pic r link to pic

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Jul 24, 2008 - 4:40 PM

[Dragondog]

well im back sry i didnt have internet for a wile moved in bad place anyway lots have been done to car just pulled motor im now in the market for a beams redtop if anyof you can point me to the right place

[Akirad1]

jhot denton on ebay has one for 2300

[Dragondog]

what years and cars were the redtop motors in............all iv come up with is 97-99 celica st202 ssii ssiii is my info right what am i missin

[Akirad1]

heres the link
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/JDM-Toyota-...sQ5fAccessories

[ej8ferio702]

looks like youre pretty far from a show finish bro,not that im clowning you or anything, im just being real..things needs to be fixed but so far so good.. my car being flashy isnt really my thing, i favor stock looking more than a "show finish" just my two cents, although "show finish" deserves alot of credit to the owner if done right, with alot of money time and knowledge everything is possible...good luck to you on this project..

[Dragondog]

thx yea work still needs to be done but right now car has changed alot since that last pix i just havent put them up yet i now have drilled slotted rotors trd style wing and coilovers hood and deck lid r sanded and primer black car dont run right now tho i pulled motor gettin beams redtop gonna rebuild the redtop and supe it up along wit turbo gettin sizzor doors new 17in rims blitz body kit split hood opens to the sides and deck lid raises straight up (the whole lid) well thoes r my plans in motion and im repainting the whole thing myself all work is done by me
i should get bout 600hp what im aimin for

[KAOS]

i made it my self as far as cup holders go...im treating my car like a porsha theres no such thing as drinking in my car....must be bottled......the lid u see is not staying maybe ill rig something up inside the middle compartment to hold drinks...(bottled drinks)

little bit of a photo shoot

So because you're not having useable cup holders; its ok to set the McDonalds cup right on the passenger seat??

BAHAHAHAHAHA

This post has been edited by KAOS: Feb 27, 2009 - 11:20 AM

[spolski07]

thx yea work still needs to be done but right now car has changed alot since that last pix i just havent put them up yet i now have drilled slotted rotors trd style wing and coilovers hood and deck lid r sanded and primer black car dont run right now tho i pulled motor gettin beams redtop gonna rebuild the redtop and supe it up along wit turbo gettin sizzor doors new 17in rims blitz body kit split hood opens to the sides and deck lid raises straight up (the whole lid) well thoes r my plans in motion and im repainting the whole thing myself all work is done by me
i should get bout 600hp what im aimin for

sorry dude but you are on your way to rice out your car IMO. but to each his own. good luck with the "build"





and if you plan to turbo, dont turbo the 3sge beams, just buy a 3sgte, less of a headache and easier to swap in.

[Sinyk]

I've never seen a turbo red top beams. Isn't it meant to be an NA engine only because of high compression?

This post has been edited by Sinyk: Feb 27, 2009 - 12:03 PM

[Akirad1]

thats what i thought, unless he just wants to be able he to say he has a turbo beams engine.

[Dragondog]

icant i just rebuild it so compression is not at danger with turbo iv got time and my own shop.....but it being vvti is good for turbo....plz give info and im open to ur opinion feel free to speak ur thoughts

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Feb 27, 2009 - 12:15 PM

[spolski07]

to turbo the 3sge you have to use the 3sgte internals, and wiring for the beams is a head ache. cheaper to buy a 3sgte and upgrade that than tryn to hassle with the beams IMO

[KAOS]

icant i just rebuild it so compression is not at danger with turbo iv got time and my own shop.....but it being vvti is good for turbo....plz give info and im open to ur opinion feel free to speak ur thoughts

Beams is VVTI?

Sweet... I didn't know that.

[Dragondog]

i see ur point on hassle but im at no worries on wireing it up if it can be done ill get it done and when u say 3sgte internals u mean head parts what bout pistons ...i know if i use thoes parts it will decrese my hp but then it can be turboed right? ok here is main question i have the time and tool to rebuild and money so what has more potential and will give me the most hp 3sgte r beams

[Akirad1]

beams is a nice NA motor, but you can do alot more with the 3sgte and alot less hassle as everyone is saying.

[spolski07]

let me put it to ya this way.

3sge beams with out tranny is about 2300-2500 bucks. 197hp at the crank. almost no aftermarket support (esp. here in the states) NOT BOOST READY
3sgte 2nd gen CLIP is about 2000-2400 bucks depending on clip. 220ish hp and aftermarket support here in the states BOOST READY
3sgte 3rd gen CLIP 2200-2600 bucks depending on clip. 240ish hp and some aftermarket support. BOOST READY



so why not just go with a 2nd or 3rd gen 3sgte and build that?
beams will just be more headache than fun.
many people here on 6gc have done the 3sgte swap, lots of info on it and we are here to help answer questions that you may have.

i just cant think of anyone who has swapped the beams into their usdm car. the community may not have answers for the problems you may run into.

and that is my .02

whatever you do go with good luck and happy building

[Dragondog]

if i put shorter pistons in will that lower the compression ratio............what ratio is safe for turbo whats the 3sgte ratio.........................and i can see how u think its going to be riced out but its not im not going cheap on this im not just slapin aero taillights on and a coffe can for a xhast tip and call it fast the car gonna still have all it sexy curvs and style just gonna have a little aww in the parking lots

[95CelicaST]

The beams motor doesn't have a whole lot of aftermarket support, so finding shorter, forged rods and forged pistons for that motor is going to be next to impossible. That is an engine that was tuned from the factory and is best left "as-is".



And if it's not cheap rice then you must've tossed the 3-spoke chromes, park bench spoiler, muffler tip, and all of your interior.

[Dragondog]

lol yes the the razor wing is gone the rims r gone will the head of the beams fit on the 3sgte? and what is the diff between the 87 3sge and the 97 beams

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 1, 2009 - 3:21 PM

[delusionz]

There's already a thread on this. I personally think the Beams head on a generation 3 or 4 3s-gte would be awesome. You'll need to work out a way to control VVT-i yourself (I've done this myself with ACIS.) RPM, MAP or TPS are good sensors to work with when controlling VVT-i.

Start with a 3S-GTE engine and a programmable ECU, then seize the moment when a red top head comes up, probably difficult to find in the US so look to import it.

I noticed you want 600HP though, you're kidding yourself. These are Celicas remember, not Supras.

[ej8ferio702]

thx yea work still needs to be done but right now car has changed alot since that last pix i just havent put them up yet i now have drilled slotted rotors trd style wing and coilovers hood and deck lid r sanded and primer black car dont run right now tho i pulled motor gettin beams redtop gonna rebuild the redtop and supe it up along wit turbo gettin sizzor doors new 17in rims blitz body kit split hood opens to the sides and deck lid raises straight up (the whole lid) well thoes r my plans in motion and im repainting the whole thing myself all work is done by me
i should get bout 600hp what im aimin for

sorry dude but you are on your way to rice out your car IMO. but to each his own. good luck with the "build"





and if you plan to turbo, dont turbo the 3sge beams, just buy a 3sgte, less of a headache and easier to swap in.

i thought the same thing when i read list of whats going to be done, not that were bashing, again this is what everybody assumes when we see(or in this case read) somebody posts a "to-do list", i think its because most of the people nowadays rocks the stock look with no flashy body kits etc. simply because some of us thinks that body kits are already played out, unless ofcourse if its functional via its aerodynamics running road courses and time attack courses,other than that i prefer to stick with the simplicity it already has with its stock body, i have to give you props for re inventing your car to stand out,also i give you props for your plans of swapping motors and the effort to make it possible by learning alot more about the motors you will be working with, as i said before, anything could be done with the right amount of money knowledge and time, and the builder deserves alot of credit if done right, so whatever you do with your car is fine because you are spending your own time and money to it, do what you want to do with it all that matters is that your happy with what you have built...

[Dragondog]

thanx support is good as well as ideas im open to learn.......i love the thought of starting with a 3sgte and seizing a beams head and as far as 600hp it can be done iv seen many done as well as some here at 6gc money and time i got the car will keep its original look along with TRD so far lots have been done to car.

[delusionz]

600HP on a 2 litre would mean a very large turbo that wouldn't spool until near the redline making it not very drivable. Not to mention FWD, no lsd, no superstrut.

[presure2]

ok, time for a reality check.

forget about the beams.

its a 160whp high compression motor, thats not designed for boost, that costs about the same to swap as a 3sgte.

do you understand what a 600hp motor costs to build?

hell, we have guys who are struggling with traction with 300whp, nevermind double that.

come back down to earth, save your money, and do some proper research.

just a quick rundown:

3sgte swap = 4-5k
big turbo kit ~3k
ems 1500-2k + tuning (600-1k)
fuel 1k lines, rail, injectors, pumps (yes, pumps..a single walboro wont support 600whp safely)
built motor 4-5k
thats just a quick overview.
and thats doing all the work yourself.

[Dragondog]

ok beams forgottin 3sgte on its way easy grab here in my town ecu and harness.......the turbo kit i have will put out 400hp max boost controle at least thats what they told me t-36 from what im told same as in evos but i dont want to blow motor nor boost so im not runnin it to its max..............should i upgrade pistons and rods? the tunnin if i cant do it wit my tools a got a guy that can..................heres what i can do myself for sure complete 3sgte rebuild, clutch, turbo install and motor mounted in plus tranny, ecu and wire harness swap..........give me some info on pumps didnt know bout that.......i still have 5sfe im gonna use it for a dune buggy....prolly use turbo off 3sgte

[Dragondog]

well so far im gettin 3rdgen 3sgte motor and stage 3 r 4 clutch looking for good fuel rod and piston+rod and rings gettin cam gear set with belt along with complete gasket set motor comes with ecu and wire harness pullin off turbo puttin bigger one on lookin for good in cab boost control........also just saw pic of the curren convesion and im looking to do that to mine if anyone can point me where i can get kit.......i over looked at my car plans and the split hood ill do without........any ideas would be helpful thx



This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 8, 2009 - 9:05 PM

[Dragondog]

got camra tring to upload images with photobucket having trouble
what is a good import magazine....any based only on toyotas?

pikes peaks in grandbury tx sweet car no pic tho yellow black and red 850hp motor in center of car

k got it



This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 9, 2009 - 1:48 AM

[Dragondog]

i made it my self as far as cup holders go...im treating my car like a porsha theres no such thing as drinking in my car....must be bottled......the lid u see is not staying maybe ill rig something up inside the middle compartment to hold drinks...(bottled drinks)

little bit of a photo shoot

So because you're not having useable cup holders; its ok to set the McDonalds cup right on the passenger seat??

BAHAHAHAHAHA

lol i never noticed that

[Dragondog]

http://gt4dreams.free.fr/rip/3sgteinfo.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3S-GTE
http://www.toyotacelicaonline.com/celica1/3sgteswap.htm
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http:/...=image&cd=1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_Celica
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MR2

what gen is this?
http://www.extremejdm.com/images/toyotacli...ct%20turbo2.JPG[/url

and this one
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here is a site that is allied with 6gc.net........... http://www.shinydonuts.com/Celica/Performa...yotaCelica.html

This post has been edited by Dragondog: Mar 12, 2009 - 4:56 AM