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post Jul 22, 2008 - 10:51 PM
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how many states we have?
i need a recount....no wait...I live in Florida...recounting isn't my thing

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post Jul 22, 2008 - 11:20 PM
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Dude... he counted wrong. So what? Doesn't mean that he can't get us out of this damn depression! It's better than Mccain who still wants us to be deployed to get oil.

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post Jul 22, 2008 - 11:32 PM
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no i want jon stewart or mikey
post Jul 23, 2008 - 12:13 AM
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QUOTE (chucho @ Jul 22, 2008 - 11:32 PM) *
no i want jon stewart or mikey



LOL i tell everyone i that i think jon stewart should be president...and im not kidding.
post Jul 23, 2008 - 12:20 AM
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Oh, man... thanks for the vid. I'm definitely changing my vote.


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 12:26 AM
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QUOTE (lagos @ Jul 23, 2008 - 1:20 AM) *
Oh, man... thanks for the vid. I'm definitely changing my vote.

werd.

If I wasn't a convicted felon and was legally able to vote then I'd vote for someone else.
Who's he up against ?


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QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jul 23, 2008 - 1:26 AM) *
QUOTE (lagos @ Jul 23, 2008 - 1:20 AM) *
Oh, man... thanks for the vid. I'm definitely changing my vote.



Who's he up against ?



This guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DqR7zis99I


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 12:30 AM
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QUOTE (FortuneCookie @ Jul 23, 2008 - 5:20 AM) *
Dude... he counted wrong. So what? Doesn't mean that he can't get us out of this damn depression! It's better than Mccain who still wants us to be deployed to get oil.


its not counting. its simple memorization. lol

i didn't post this to vote for or against him, I actually hate both of them.


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QUOTE (lagos @ Jul 23, 2008 - 6:28 AM) *
QUOTE (Batman722 @ Jul 23, 2008 - 1:26 AM) *
QUOTE (lagos @ Jul 23, 2008 - 1:20 AM) *
Oh, man... thanks for the vid. I'm definitely changing my vote.



Who's he up against ?



This guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DqR7zis99I


did you see the remix of that lol


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 1:22 AM
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I think he did it on purpose, even I know how many states there are in US... biggrin.gif


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can we have a redo? mulligan the current candidates? i think they are both retards.


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post Jul 23, 2008 - 3:19 AM
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viva el bill clinton!! if theres anyone that can get us out of a depression its him

too bad he already served all his terms. the presidency also took a major toll on him. he looks 70 now cwm13.gif


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QUOTE (FortuneCookie @ Jul 22, 2008 - 11:20 PM) *
Dude... he counted wrong. So what? Doesn't mean that he can't get us out of this damn depression! It's better than Mccain who still wants us to be deployed to get oil.

And we are over there getting oil, notice how oil has gone up since we have been over there? wierd right? I am just guess that you personally know no one who has served over there and heard stories about how grateful the Afgan people are that we are over at least trying to give them another option besides a dictorship.

Go talk to soldier and learn something that hasnt been edited by tv.

The hot water thing... he probablly meant warm water, as cold water requires more of your bodies energy to convert into energy, so warm water is best to drink you are dehydrated as it doesnt rob you of any more energy... just my .02

With that said both canidates suck, mccain is a democrat lets face it, and obama is full of promises, nothing more...


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ok so hang on, he went to 57 states with 1 left because he was not allowed to go to alaska and hawaii (so alaska and hawaii are 1 state and make up the 58th state of the US) (maybe he's counting states we dont know about yet? cwm13.gif thumbsdown.gif

Bottled hot water to dehidrated babies sounds like a good idea tongue.gif who could say no to that right.

I wanted Hilary to win even though most people I know what Obama for some reason? bottom line is the president is not really the person in charge its just a face and name more then anything else. (imo)


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QUOTE (creis @ Jul 23, 2008 - 10:22 AM) *
ok so hang on, he went to 57 states with 1 left because he was not allowed to go to alaska and hawaii (so alaska and hawaii are 1 state and make up the 58th state of the US) (maybe he's counting states we dont know about yet? cwm13.gif thumbsdown.gif

Bottled hot water to dehidrated babies sounds like a good idea tongue.gif who could say no to that right.

I wanted Hilary to win even though most people I know what Obama for some reason? bottom line is the president is not really the person in charge its just a face and name more then anything else. (imo)


I dont have sound... Obama said he's been to 57 states with one left? confused.gif Aren't there 50 states? Where the hell do you get 57 and 58 from? even if he'd ment 47 states... With one more to go cwm13.gif WTF? And he's giving hot water to babies? What else does he say?

i know why everyone voted for obama. rolleyes.gif I'm just not allowed to say. frown.gif


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Time for a new gobermint.


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Dude... he counted wrong. So what? Doesn't mean that he can't get us out of this damn depression! It's better than Mccain who still wants us to be deployed to get oil.

And we are over there getting oil, notice how oil has gone up since we have been over there? wierd right? I am just guess that you personally know no one who has served over there and heard stories about how grateful the Afgan people are that we are over at least trying to give them another option besides a dictorship.

Go talk to soldier and learn something that hasnt been edited by tv.

The hot water thing... he probablly meant warm water, as cold water requires more of your bodies energy to convert into energy, so warm water is best to drink you are dehydrated as it doesnt rob you of any more energy... just my .02

With that said both canidates suck, mccain is a democrat lets face it, and obama is full of promises, nothing more...



1. No country wants to be occupied. Can you imagine if Iran came over here to "save us" from bush? We wouldn't greet them as liberators.

2. I have never in my life heard of anyone drinking hot or warm water when dehydrated. It makes absolutely no sense at all. Is McCain crazy? No. He probably just read the teleprompter wrong. And Obama, was saying he JUST got done going to every single state in the country. Does he not know how many we have? No. He probably just misspoke from being sleep deprived while working on a none stop schedule.

3. We have 3 candidates to vote for. Look up Bob Barr. And btw, McCain is not a democrat, hes a republican... like bush.


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Cold water has more oxygen.


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its not uncommon to give a baby a bottle of warm/hot (and i don't mean boiling) water.
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I give my daughter room temp water... kindasad.gif I'm starting to re-think the science behind it now though... But if my wife says' it's best, Who am I to argue with a mommy? smile.gif


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QUOTE (Supersprynt @ Jul 23, 2008 - 8:39 AM) *
Time for a new gobermint.

Werd.


Guam, PR, US Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guantanamo, crap, that's 5, I'm sure I can come up with two more to make 57! laugh.gif


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I thought about Canada, but it just seemed mean. They're still their own country at least. And as long as they don't have any oil, they'll evade the long penis arm of the US government.


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QUOTE (creis @ Jul 23, 2008 - 7:47 PM) *
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Canada is our sister.


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QUOTE (gabyz @ Jul 23, 2008 - 3:57 PM) *
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i blame his speech writer! he meant to type 47 and hit 57 instead and got the whole thing plastered on the interwebs! its a plot to destroy Obama! McCain is paying off Obama's speech writer to make 1 letter/number mistakes to Obama looks like an idiot!

edit: hehe typo!!!

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i blame his speech writer! he meant to type 47 and hit 57 instead and got the whole thing plastered on the interwebs! its a plot to destroy Obama! McCain is paying off Obama's speech writer to make 1 letter/number mistakes to Obama looks like an idiot!

edit: hehe typo!!!

Even if he meant to say "47 with 1 state left to go" confused.gif We're still off count laugh.gif


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I know mccain is technically a republican, but he is the softest republican ever, and he takes alot of democratic views.

Dont say another word about the afgan people untill you have personally spoke with someone who has been over working with them for more than a year ok?

Cold water may have more oxygen but it is harder for the body to convert into acutally energy because it is cold, ask any runner and they will tell you that they will drink warm water when competing (s/p?) drinking cold water robs you of more energy, seeing as how it is a baby they kinda need every little they can get... you dont give the baby cold milk do you? NO you put it in boiling water to warm it up.


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QUOTE (D-Man @ Jul 23, 2008 - 1:36 PM) *
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i blame his speech writer! he meant to type 47 and hit 57 instead and got the whole thing plastered on the interwebs! its a plot to destroy Obama! McCain is paying off Obama's speech writer to make 1 letter/number mistakes to Obama looks like an idiot!

edit: hehe typo!!!

Even if he meant to say "47 with 1 state left to go" confused.gif We're still off count laugh.gif


i dont think they travel to Alaska or Hawaii, least thats what i thought? i've never heard "today, presidential candidate blah blah blah went to Alaska and discussed politics with the mayor of Juno..." or anything like it... so maybe thats it... ehh i dont really care either way, its still funny! and how i look for it. Obama gets elected maybe he can fix everything bush f'd up, McCain gets elected i become Canadian... Either way, its Win Win for me

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Cold water may have more oxygen but it is harder for the body to convert into acutally energy because it is cold, ask any runner and they will tell you that they will drink warm water when competing (s/p?) drinking cold water robs you of more energy, seeing as how it is a baby they kinda need every little they can get... you dont give the baby cold milk do you? NO you put it in boiling water to warm it up.

oh legit, we drink cold water... Colder water is absorbed by the body quicker... it doesn't rob any energy it actually helps to cool the body. read this http://extension.missouri.edu/extensioninf...cle.asp?id=3600.
i will say this though, we dont drink sports drinks before or during workouts/games/whatever. Only after. Only exception is if you feel like you are beginning to cramp or tighten up.

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Cold water requires more calories to be converted into useable energry. I said nothing about how fast it absorbed.
We do not give babies ice cold milk do we, no. We give them luke warm milk.

Drinking cold water may refresh your pallet but you are making your body work harder to convert the cold water into useable energy. Making a babies body work harder and burn more calories can be a very bad thing when they are dehydrated, so giving them warm water makes sense.

Can you explain to me how cold water is absorbed quicker? the molecules are far denser making them harder to break up and become useable...

Go read a chem/bio chem and physics book, dont trust everything you read on the internet.

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brb guys... going to boil some water to drink...man, im thirsty.


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QUOTE (lagos @ Jul 23, 2008 - 6:51 PM) *
brb guys... going to boil some water to drink...man, im thirsty.


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i was going to vote for Hillery. We need the Clintons back, but with the choices i dont care who the Democrat is as long as he is that. a Democrat. I normally dont feel that way and always vote for the person that i feel is the best choice. But after Bush the Republican party needs to just tuck tale and run away for a while.
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legit, i have no idea how or why cold water is absorbed faster by the body... all i know is that it is.
our trainer doesnt let us touch any warm water at practices or games! I asked him y one day and he explained it all, but i dont remember it.
and i can say the same to you about what you read on the internet... I've been an athlete all my life. Played soccer all through high school and college, ran track in highschool, ran a couple 5k/10k fun runs, never once have been given WARM water or heard a trainer or coach say anything about warm water being better for you then cold water as an athlete..

I never said anything about what to give a baby, i agree and know you give a baby warm milk. i was simply making a counter point to what you said about ask any runner. I just asked my friend who runs cross country and long distance, he drinks warm water when hes warming up because it will stay in your body longer, but any time during his run he drinks cold water to keep himself cooler. When his run is over he drinks a warm gatorade and a ice cold bottle of water(which to me seems kinda counter productive cause they are just gonna mix and so forth but w/e floats his boat).

i wasnt trying to start an argument, just telling you what i've been told as an athlete, as for the interwebs link, just a link to a nutrition site ran by the university of Missouri/Kansas or something, i didnt say i believed what it said, just simply that it explained more about it...
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legit, i have no idea how or why cold water is absorbed faster by the body... all i know is that it is.


you pretty much said it all right there... dont debate what you dont understand or know

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I never said anything about what to give a baby, i agree and know you give a baby warm milk. i was simply making a counter point to what you said about ask any runner. I just asked my friend who runs cross country and long distance, he drinks warm water when hes warming up because it will stay in your body longer, but any time during his run he drinks cold water to keep himself cooler. When his run is over he drinks a warm gatorade and a ice cold bottle of water(which to me seems kinda counter productive cause they are just gonna mix and so forth but w/e floats his boat).


He drinks warm gatorade because it has more essential nutrients which gets absorbed faster because it is warm. he drinks the cold water to refresh himself.

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i wasnt trying to start an argument, just telling you what i've been told as an athlete, as for the interwebs link, just a link to a nutrition site ran by the university of Missouri/Kansas or something, i didnt say i believed what it said, just simply that it explained more about it...


Cold water requires more engergy to convert into useable energy, when you use more energy your body heats up, drink cold water is counter productive. while refreshing yes, it is actually make your body burn more energy.If you dont believe in something you probablly shouldnt use it as evidence for your point

This got started because Mccain said giving hot water to dehydrated babies, i was trying to eleborate for people who dont understand the science behind that. call up your advice nurse and tell her you are dehydrated and ask her if you should drink ice cold water or warm water, see what she says. i was explaining why deyhydrated babies should be drinking warm water. You countered with something that doesnt make sense(i.e. cold water is absorbed faster) i was just trying to eleborate the science behind why that doesnt make any sense.

You your self said that you you have no idea why this works... so why are you trying to debate something you dont know about?


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The calories required to raise the temperature of cold water to that of warm water is negligible. On top of that, cooler water is absorbed by the stomach faster than warm water, decreasing dehydration faster.

/debate.

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no, i stated i had no idea why cold water is absorbed faster then warm... i never said i didnt know anything about osmoregulation or osmosis... I am quite scientific and please dont twist what i said.

Actually he drinks the warm gatorade because the nutrients will stay in his body longer and more will be absorbed over more time... and he drinks cold water to refresh himself and help cool him down.
it was actually a funny conversation cause he had no idea why i was asking him these things...

again, i say, i agree that you give babies warm milk. I was not disputing that fact, i was simply stating what i know against, "ask any runner and they will tell you that they will drink warm water when competing (s/p?)".

do you actually know how the body creates energy? Cause water is never converted to energy. Water contains nothing the HUMAN body uses to make energy.

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I can't believe we are actually trying to debate this...

Read this...
http://www.slate.com/blogs/blogs/trailhead...er-comment.aspx

The word HOT wasn't in his written speech. It was originally written as "bottled water for dehydrated babies".
The guy misspoke and added the word HOT in there for some reason or other.

Babies normally drink/eat things at around room temperature. Giving them HOT WATER to drink would be a bad idea.


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post Jul 24, 2008 - 3:17 AM
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my view

nuff said!
post Jul 24, 2008 - 4:30 AM
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omg some people are idiots! (not saying you guys)

Seriously people, everyone makes stupid speech mistakes, especially when you are talking infront of the world.

He never once said he ONLY stayed in the USA, so technically he could have went all over the usa (and mexico/canada) and it would be possible to goto 57 states.

Secondly his math is right if you do his math starting with 47 instead of 57.

47 visited states + hawaii + alaska = 49 states. (hawaii and alaska is not allowing him to go)

49 + one more state he has to go to?

post Jul 24, 2008 - 5:26 AM
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QUOTE (GriffGirl @ Jul 23, 2008 - 12:53 PM) *
I thought about Canada, but it just seemed mean. They're still their own country at least. And as long as they don't have any oil, they'll evade the long penis arm of the US government.


Technically, every nation is a state. In fact, the term is nation-state. And then there are the sub-units, which make up countries such as the United States of Mexico (wonder how many people realise that's the actual name of that country).

On the oil issue...um....you mean no oil aside from the Alberta oil sands or the east coast oil platforms, which between them make Canada one of the largest importers of oil to the U.S. and are a major factor in the rise of the Canadian currency against the American dollar (aside from the fact that your government is spending so wildly it has to keep raising its maximum allowable total debt limit while we're paying our debt down).

Oddly, came across a nice clip of a Republican governor who's campaigning for McCain, who was asked to give examples of how McCain's approach to the economy is different from Bush as his campaign keeps claiming. The response, after much hemming and hawing: "I'm drawing a blank." Let's reiterate, this is someone who's been given all the scripting available to campaign for McCain.

Socially, Obama's much more in line with Canadian values, but just to note, his views on trade and protectionism like most Democrats are likely to negatively impact Canada's economy, which is reliant (though not as much as it once was) on exports to the U.S.
post Jul 24, 2008 - 10:42 PM
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i came to the same conclusion as Hanyo, 47 + 2 + 1 missing = 50. maybe its a bay area thing. HAHA sike.
post Jul 24, 2008 - 10:58 PM
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Not to keep fueling the fire here... but I was watching on fox news about how Obama went to Germany and Spoke to somewhere around 200,000+ people there. Pretty impressive.

Then to make their news coverage "fair and balanced" (cough) , they quickly started talking about what McCain did with his day. They said he went to a local German restaurant in Ohio, and showed him sitting at a table and talking to 3guys...lol.

I thought the contrast there was kind of funny.


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post Jul 24, 2008 - 11:51 PM
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barack n roll..
post Jul 25, 2008 - 1:18 AM
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Anybody reading recent Doonseberry comic strips?

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